Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,195]

5 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Given Dembele's current form, i say he is easily worth that price. As for Leao we already have Sterling who occupying the same position, so spending more than £50m for him seems very unnecessary.

I can see Leão going for over £130m.

 

Bellingham, Leão, Rice, Nkunku, Vlahović (perhaps, but doubtful), Neymar (perhaps), Skriniar (unless he renews), Oblak (unless he renews), Osimhen, Bernardo Silva (perhaps), De Jong (perhaps but doubtful), Gvardiol, João Félix (perhaps), Wirtz (if fully recovered), Barella (perhaps), Chiesa (if fully recovered) and Sergej Milinković-Savić (last possible year for him in terms of a huge money move, as he turns 29yo in the middle of next season, so already I am very wary of a huge outlay) are the only truly world class (ATM) players who MAY be available this coming summer.

Only 7 of those (I listed status above if not a lock) are locks to be available and Rice will likely cost around £150m. Rice, Leão, and Bellingham are easily the 3 most expensive.

CR7 is no longer WC, and Ousame Dembele needs to show he is back for good.

 

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6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

See him more effective as a CAM. 

Yes, Zakharyan is more of a creative AMF than a winger (where he rarely plays), which is why I am very much in want of him. Plus he is right footed, so not a natural RW (I really want a lefty at RW).

[Vesper 30,195]

Benjamin Šeško with an insane goal versus Sweden

Zlatan level

no wonder we were so in for him

I am starting to become convinced

(and yet another Christof Freund buy for Salzburg, I am still GUTTED  we are missing out on him)

[milka 3,393]

 I would be surprised if he didn't go to Germany -  Leipzig , Dortmund , Leverkusen even Bayern .

Almost all the talents from Austria make a transfer to Germany first -  Haaland , Keita ,  Szoboszlai , Adeyemi

 

Edited September 27, 2022 by milka

[Vesper 30,195]

2 hours ago, milka said:

 I would be surprised if he didn't go to Germany -  Leipzig , Dortmund , Leverkusen even Bayern .

Almost all the talents from Austria make a transfer to Germany first -  Haaland , Keita ,  Szoboszlai , Adeyemi

 

trends are made to be broken

All those players are Christoph Freund finds

I so hope we go back and try to get him this coming summer

I think he is a footballing administrative genius

It also gives me hope that Boehly has went after the 3 main sporting directors I rate the highest amongst those who could even remotely (in terms of chances) be recruited to come here

 

Boehly obviously knows who to go after to build a monster club, look what he has helped do with the LA Dodgers:

The Dodgers are at 106 wins, 47 losses with 9 games to go and that is in the far better National League, especially as one of the traditional monster American League teams (the Boston Red Sox, owned by Fenway Sports Group, ie FSG, the Liverpool owners) are having a bad season.

As an aside, the Cubs ( on track to LOSE over 90 games), owned by the shithole Ricketts fam who tried to buy us, have been destroyed as a good team since they won the 2016 World Series (their first in 108 years, and only their 3rd overall, that 1906 'tied for most wins ever' deadball era team did not even win the WS that year, but did win in 1907, 1908, then nothing for 108 years). 

In 147 seasons of American baseball only 8 teams have won 109 or more games and two them were in the deadball era (1876 to 1920)

Only 2 were National League teams (the two deadball era teams the 1906 Cubs and the 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates)

The Dodgers may well get to 111 to 112 wins, making them the best (in terms of most regular season wins in a season) non deadball (and 2nd best even counting the 1906 Cubs) single regular season National League club in history. 3 National League teams will very likely end up winning 100 games, and another (the always dangerous St Louis Cardinals, the best run small market team by far for the last 40 years) will likely win 95 or so to show the strength of the other good teams in the NL this season. Another teams, the San Diego Padres, in the same division as the Dodgers, will win over 90 as well. The Dogers and their main dicision rivals have BOTH won crazy amounts of sames over the past

 

Look at the Dodgers the past 6 seasons

2020 was the Covid shortened year or they may well have won over 110 games as well, and had a shot at 120 (or at least 117 to claim the all time record themselves)

they were in 3 World Series (this year would make 4 out of 6 years)

Won 1, and should have won another (2017, when the Houston Astros, after it was over, were proven (by Major League Baseball itself) to have massively cheated the entire series via illegally electronically stealing the Dodger's signs, but MLB  refused to forfeit the Astros win, only banning their managers and execs for a year plus millions in fines (they should have forfeited the Astros win, the Dodgers still barely lost and would have crushed the Astros if not for the stolen signs)

The Dodgers lost the 2018 World Series to the Boston Red Sox, another candidate for best regular season team ever, as they won 108 games (one more win and they would have been in the top list above of best regular seasons ever), then won it in 2020. Last season they lost to the evenatal WS champions, the Atlanta Braves in the NL championship series (so just missed another WS).

No team in all of the 147 seasons has had a run of regular season win totals like the Dodgers have had starting in 2019.

If not for Covid shortening the season in 2020 they almost for sure would have had 4 straight years of 106 or more wins, and 2 of those years would likely be 110 wins or more.

Dominance.

Plus they won 104 in 2017 (and would have likely won well over 110 games that year too, but from late August to mid September they lost an insane 16 out of 17 ( including 11 in a row, the only time EVER a 104 plus game-winning team has had a 10 plus game losing streak in the same season) due to their losing the highest percentage of their starting players to injures for any team over a 20 game stretch post WWII. As soon as they got even remotely healthy, they reeled off 8 out 10 wins to close it out, then came within one run TWICE of winning the World Series in that 'Astros cheating' WS.

 

 

 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

trends are made to be broken

All those players are Christoph Freund finds

I so hope we go back and try to get him this coming summer

I think he is a footballing administrative genius

It also gives me hope that Boehly has went after the 3 main sporting directors I rate the highest amongst those who could even remotely (in terms of chances) be recruited to come here

Think that ship has sailed, Boehly want a new DoF in before world cup.

Edited September 28, 2022 by Blues Forever

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

trends are made to be broken

All those players are Christoph Freund finds

I so hope we go back and try to get him this coming summer

I think he is a footballing administrative genius

It also gives me hope that Boehly has went after the 3 main sporting directors I rate the highest amongst those who could even remotely (in terms of chances) be recruited to come here

 

Boehly obviously knows who to go after to build a monster club, look what he has helped do with the LA Dodgers:

The Dodgers are at 106 wins, 47 losses with 9 games to go and that is in the far better National League, especially as one of the traditional monster American League teams (the Boston Red Sox, owned by Fenway Sports Group, ie FSG, the Liverpool owners) are having a bad season.

As an aside, the Cubs ( on track to LOSE over 90 games), owned by the shithole Ricketts fam who tried to buy us, have been destroyed as a good team since they won the 2016 World Series (their first in 108 years, and only their 3rd overall, that 1906 'tied for most wins ever' deadball era team did not even win the WS that year, but did win in 1907, 1908, then nothing for 108 years). 

In 147 seasons of American baseball only 8 teams have won 109 or more games and two them were in the deadball era (1876 to 1920)

Only 2 were National League teams (the two deadball era teams the 1906 Cubs and the 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates)

The Dodgers may well get to 111 to 112 wins, making them the best (in terms of most regular season wins in a season) non deadball (and 2nd best even counting the 1906 Cubs) single regular season National League club in history. 3 National League teams will very likely end up winning 100 games, and another (the always dangerous St Louis Cardinals, the best run small market team by far for the last 40 years) will likely win 95 or so to show the strength of the other good teams in the NL this season. Another teams, the San Diego Padres, in the same division as the Dodgers, will win over 90 as well. The Dogers and their main dicision rivals have BOTH won crazy amounts of sames over the past

 

Look at the Dodgers the past 6 seasons

2020 was the Covid shortened year or they may well have won over 110 games as well, and had a shot at 120 (or at least 117 to claim the all time record themselves)

they were in 3 World Series (this year would make 4 out of 6 years)

Won 1, and should have won another (2017, when the Houston Astros, after it was over, were proven (by Major League Baseball itself) to have massively cheated the entire series via illegally electronically stealing the Dodger's signs, but MLB  refused to forfeit the Astros win, only banning their managers and execs for a year plus millions in fines (they should have forfeited the Astros win, the Dodgers still barely lost and would have crushed the Astros if not for the stolen signs)

The Dodgers lost the 2018 World Series to the Boston Red Sox, another candidate for best regular season team ever, as they won 108 games (one more win and they would have been in the top list above of best regular seasons ever), then won it in 2020. Last season they lost to the evenatal WS champions, the Atlanta Braves in the NL championship series (so just missed another WS).

No team in all of the 147 seasons has had a run of regular season win totals like the Dodgers have had starting in 2019.

If not for Covid shortening the season in 2020 they almost for sure would have had 4 straight years of 106 or more wins, and 2 of those years would likely be 110 wins or more.

Dominance.

Plus they won 104 in 2017 (and would have likely won well over 110 games that year too, but from late August to mid September they lost an insane 16 out of 17 ( including 11 in a row, the only time EVER a 104 plus game-winning team has had a 10 plus game losing streak in the same season) due to their losing the highest percentage of their starting players to injures for any team over a 20 game stretch post WWII. As soon as they got even remotely healthy, they reeled off 8 out 10 wins to close it out, then came within one run TWICE of winning the World Series in that 'Astros cheating' WS.

 

 

 

 

I am impressed you even know your stuff in baseball. Never really understood the rules nor the fascination for that sport but I can see why statistics analysis plays such a vital rule  there. It will be interesting to see if Boehly can translate his winning formula to European football. It is clear he is capable but I am still sceptic. I reckon it will take years. Clearly not only the franchise system is completely different but also the business side. So far his approach here has been somewhat inconsistent and amateurish from the outside but surely there will be a learning process. I thinner just need to be patient and not expect instant results. Can totally see the Potter experiment blow up in our faces which  is why I was against making such a big long Term commitment here. But the vision, the structure and the ability to invest is there, so long term I am still optimistic for the future of the club 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Not sure we are an attractive proposition unless we miraculously start playing better football and compete. 

[milka 3,393]

Keep eye on this guy 

[Vesper 30,195]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I am impressed you even know your stuff in baseball. Never really understood the rules nor the fascination for that sport but I can see why statistics analysis plays such a vital rule  there. It will be interesting to see if Boehly can translate his winning formula to European football. It is clear he is capable but I am still sceptic. I reckon it will take years. Clearly not only the franchise system is completely different but also the business side. So far his approach here has been somewhat inconsistent and amateurish from the outside but surely there will be a learning process. I thinner just need to be patient and not expect instant results. Can totally see the Potter experiment blow up in our faces which  is why I was against making such a big long Term commitment here. But the vision, the structure and the ability to invest is there, so long term I am still optimistic for the future of the club 

Ph, I am so NOT some super expert on baseball, I just did a quick dive into the all time wins in a season for teams, and then quickly scanned that 2017 dodgers team in terms of the world Series loss to the Astros and also, whilst looking to see if the Dodgers even played the Astros in that regular season (they didn't) I say that horrid losing streak section and did a mini dive into that.

In no way, shape or form could I name the best players at each position in baseball without weeks/months of research. I have ZERO interest in doing that, lolol.

I love the Dodgers' uniforms and their ballpark (I have actually seen a game there whilst on a holiday to visit some of mummy's fam who moved up to LA and San Diego from Barbados.

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3 hours ago, milka said:

Keep eye on this guy 

yes, he is my Kante 'replacement' (no one can actually 'replace Kante'. he is one of the truly unique players in football history)

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

On 28/09/2022 at 12:16, Blues Forever said:

 

Pointless story. Tell us when he turns up for training at Cobham. Until then there are hundreds of more interesting fairy tales people can read.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

On 28/09/2022 at 09:41, Magic Lamps said:

I am impressed you even know your stuff in baseball. Never really understood the rules nor the fascination for that sport

Together, cricket and baseball form the only even remotely credible evidence for the exitance of any god. That such a being wanted to watch these sports would be a powerful incentive to create the universe(s) that's for sure.

P.S. I like cricket and baseball. 🙂 

Edited September 29, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Pointless story. Tell us when he turns up for training at Cobham. Until then there are hundreds of more interesting fairy tales people can read.

Small crumb of hope i have is he appears very close to Reece so maybe, just maybe he can persuade him. 

I won't hold my breath on it but Joe Cole helped swing Hazard in our favour so you never know.

[LAM09 7,056]

On 28/09/2022 at 09:37, Blues Forever said:

Think that ship has sailed, Boehly want a new DoF in before world cup.

This states otherwise, but the source is almost worthless - https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/boehly-pulls-back-from-plans-of-early-Chelsea-sporting-director-appointment-4431022

[Blues Forever 1,232]

9 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

This states otherwise, but the source is almost worthless - https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/boehly-pulls-back-from-plans-of-early-Chelsea-sporting-director-appointment-4431022

Yes, but from shit source.

[LAM09 7,056]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

Yes, but from shit source.

As stated.

It seems to be a theme today.

Edited September 29, 2022 by LAM09

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[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

25 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

😂