Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, blahblahblah said: Umm. No i am basically comparing a couple who will change us overnight vs a player who barely improves us. I definitely know which one I would have made a priority. If we offered a 100m, it would have been a done deal. Whu were not going to reject that. But they will, they have leverage with Rice still has 2 + 1 years left. If not other clubs like City or United would already done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, DDA said: If we had a squad of all the players we missed out on, we would probably win the treble. Yes yes. Can't get them all. But midfield refresh has been put off for years now. We have relied on Kante. Jorginho and Kova since the Sarri days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Blues Forever said: But they will, they have leverage with Rice still has 2 + 1 years left. If not other clubs like City or United would already done that. I think 100m would have been enough. If not, then pay the extra 20m. Also, if we got rice, we did not need a back up RWB, as we would definitely shift to a back4, and azpi would have been the back up RB. We are anyways willing to pay 50m for a back rwb in gordon so why not deal with our most obvious and biggest problem out there. If not rice and fdj, then there would be other options available who are far better than whatever jorginho provides. Not buying a DM is a cardinal mistake, an unforgivable one. One which will end up costing TT his job and us this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: I think 100m would have been enough. If not, then pay the extra 20m. Also, if we got rice, we did not need a back up RWB, as we would definitely shift to a back4, and azpi would have been the back up RB. We are anyways willing to pay 50m for a back rwb in gordon so why not deal with our most obvious and biggest problem out there. If not rice and fdj, then there would be other options available who are far better than whatever jorginho provides. Not buying a DM is a cardinal mistake, an unforgivable one. One which will end up costing TT his job and us this season. Again if £100m is enough to get him then why City, United, and us so far didn't try to bid him? We are even willing to match United's bid for De Jong around £72m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,284 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, Strike said: Yes yes. Can't get them all. But midfield refresh has been put off for years now. We have relied on Kante. Jorginho and Kova since the Sarri days It's crazy that we have the same midfield since Sarri was here. Proof of the poor job done by everyone in charge at Chelsea since that period. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Again if £100m is enough to get him then why City, United, and us so far didn't try to bid him? We are even willing to match United's bid for De Jong around £72m. I don't get the point? Is 70m enough to get fofana, no. But we bid. Did we make an actual bid for rice? Were there any rumors? Were there any rumors about any DM except for "fdj does not want to join". Most of that noise was out of the Barca camp rather than ours. And again, if not fdj and rice, then you go to your plan b, c, d, e to z. Just like we went from kounde, de ligt, etc etc etc to whoever we end up buying. The fact that we were not even linked shows that DM was not on priority for the manager which is what bothers me. If 2 years into his tenure he can't even understand our most basic deficiency, then he needs to be evaluated as the manager of the club. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: I don't get the point? Is 70m enough to get fofana, no. But we bid. Did we make an actual bid for rice? Were there any rumors? Were there any rumors about any DM except for "fdj does not want to join". Most of that noise was out of the Barca camp rather than ours. And again, if not fdj and rice, then you go to your plan b, c, d, e to z. Just like we went from kounde, de ligt, etc etc etc to whoever we end up buying. The fact that we were not even linked shows that DM was not on priority for the manager which is what bothers me. If 2 years into his tenure he can't even understand our most basic deficiency, then he needs to be evaluated as the manager of the club. Tchouameni, Kamara, Sangare, Bissouma, Rice in June and then all went quiet until suddenly we are going for De Jong this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 hours ago, blahblahblah said: Why would you take jesus for 45m when you can have 33 year old auba for 25m. Atleast that's what our genius manager's thought process is. 😂 9 hours ago, DDA said: When you put it like that.... it's unbelievable that we didn't go for Jesus. Our ownership change and late start in the window seems to be the reason we missed out on Jesus. It is not true that the club did not go for him https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jesus-Chelsea-transfer-hijack-arsenal-27500960 On Aubameyang - the club is sticking to a reasonable fee. The thought process seems to be fine, there is just no proven striker target available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Vesper said: Chelsea to rival Premier League clubs for 26-year-old striker https://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2022/08/Chelsea-in-the-race-to-sign-brentford-striker-ivan-toney-latest-transfer-news/ Chelsea are in the race with Everton and Manchester United to sign Brentford striker Ivan Toney Will take a 50m + fee this late in the window. There are a few punts that can be taken in the market - Isak, David, Osimhen (tough pull) I think it will only be a stopgap this late in the window - Auba, Ronaldo or Zaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Tchouameni, Kamara, Sangare, Bissouma, Rice in June and then all went quiet until suddenly we are going for De Jong this month. Kamara was announce as villa player in May. Bissouma was a spurs on 14th June Tcho has joined Madrid on 11th June It's August 22nd, and have we had any plans of a DM? Again, having a daily mail link with a player is not what i am talking about, because that is what we might have had with the above mentioned 3. I don't remember any credible sources linking these players to us. I honestly doubt it. Massively doubt it. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, blahblahblah said: Kamara was announce as villa player in May. Bissouma was a spurs on 14th June Tcho has joined Madrid on 11th June It's August 22nd, and have we had any plans of a DM? Again, having a daily mail link with a player is not what i am talking about, because that is what we might have had with the above mentioned 3. I don't remember any credible sources linking these players to us. I honestly doubt it. Massively doubt it. Matt Law and Nizaar Kinsella have spoken about our interest on Tchouameni and Kamara in the past. As for Bissouma the link came from Nathan Gissing (cfcnewspage) who is now working for Di Marzio. As i have said here many times the delay during takeover process have fucked us this window, we missed out many players because of that. Edited August 22, 2022 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Matt Law and Nizaar Kinsella have spoken about our interest on Tchouameni and Kamara in the past. As for Bissouma the link came from Nathan Gissing (cfcnewspage) who is now working for Di Marzio. As i have said here many times the delay during takeover process have fucked us this window, we missed out many players because of that. Still, after the takeover the only MF we were linked to was FDJ, who clearly didn't even want to come here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Still, after the takeover the only MF we were linked to was FDJ, who clearly didn't even want to come here Nope, we linked and signed Chukwuemeka and Casadei but both are more like no. 8 rather than a DM. Even De Jong himself isn't really a DM. The genuine DM like Tchouameni and Kamara got snapped fast by other clubs before we can even act. Edited August 22, 2022 by Blues Forever Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Nope, we linked and signed Chukwuemeka and Casadei but both are more like no. 8 rather than a DM. Even De Jong himself isn't really a DM. The genuine DM like Tchouameni and Kamara got snapped fast by other clubs before we can even act. That's why I wrote 'MF' as more general term. Chukwuemeka and Casadei are singings for the future, noone sane truly believe they will make a difference now. blahblahblah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: That's why I wrote 'MF' as more general term. Chukwuemeka and Casadei are singings for the future, noone sane truly believe they will make a difference now. Of course not, but many ppl just assumed they would be another body in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Athletic's Leicester reporter now saying this could happen Edited August 22, 2022 by Strike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Buy a decent RB , play James in CDM and 433. Just do something tuchel ffs Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Of course not, but many ppl just assumed they would be another body in midfield. Unfortunately it's not the quantity we are missing but quality (well, healthy quality) Edited August 22, 2022 by ulvhedin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 https://www.football.london/Chelsea-fc/news/tuchel-leeds-Chelsea-mendy-koulibaly-24816030 Tuchel: "Another midfielder? We have Jorginho, N'Golo Kante, we have Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Conor Gallagher, Mateo Kovacic…." - I just hope he just doesn't want to throw the team under the bus and he is not really think this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,352 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11133753/Chelsea-considering-past-transfer-flop-Alvaro-Morata-alternative-Pierre-Emerick-Aubameyang.html Morata again 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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