Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 3 hours ago, LAM09 said: Wirtz had a serious injury not so long ago. Just look at our track record. I'll stick with my opinion on Mudryk on this point - I still believe there's a really good player waiting to flourish. Whether we'll see at during his time here is another story. Mudryk will end up being a bang average winger with that typical burst of pace. I just don't see him becoming a player who is going to score/assist 15 goals a season in the Premier League. That 70 million price tag (along with Fofana's transfer fee....considering the injuries he had at Leicester) will go down as two of the worst transfers in PL history. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Real is also stacked in his position. And with his England background I'm sure he will come to PL after Bayern. But yeah, most likely not us. Tbh, we are competing pretty well with Arsenal, Liverpool, United despite having only Conference League. City's pull will reduce with Pep leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 9 hours ago, Pizy said: Mudryk is a lot like Timo Werner in that they both had amazing seasons where they looked like worldies and then as soon as they moved to Chelsea they look super timid and lose all confidence. I don’t know why we have such shit luck like that. Werner hasn't been that great at Spurs either, even Leipzig didn't want to keep him as a squad rotation player... As for Mudryk, the problem for him will be the price tag. If he was another 35 million signing like most other wingers/players from Shaktar, the pressure would be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 9 hours ago, TheHulk said: Hope he has a blinder. Can't believe Broja might have a 20m + market still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 12 hours ago, Clockwork said: Steinberg is the worst that covers Chelsea, he is jealous West Ham fan, personally ignore everything he says. He has worded it ambiguously. doubts have emerged over whether Olise would favour a move there when there is also interest from Arsenal, Bayern, Newcastle and both Manchester clubs. I don't think he has clear info on what Olise is thinking hence worded it as "doubts have emerged" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 Okay, just watched a new, much longer YouTube video of Estevão and came away MUCH more convinced about him. The previous videos I watched of him made question if he was actually worthy of the hype and excitement. He didn’t look that special to me before. But now I’m legit excited about him coming next summer. What’s crazy is that as impressed as I now am with Estevão, Kendry Paez looks even better. The phrase “generational talent” gets thrown around too loosely these days but he looks like one. A superstar in the making if he is coached right and settles well. His close control, ability to dribble multiple players, and most of all his confidence at age 16/17 is insane. Really makes me wonder why we’re going out and potentially dropping £60m+ on Olise when these two are waiting in the wings. Unless there’s a big clear out of wide attackers planned with Sterling, Madueke, and Mudryk all going over the next 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 54 minutes ago, Pizy said: Okay, just watched a new, much longer YouTube video of Estevão and came away MUCH more convinced about him. The previous videos I watched of him made question if he was actually worthy of the hype and excitement. He didn’t look that special to me before. But now I’m legit excited about him coming next summer. What’s crazy is that as impressed as I now am with Estevão, Kendry Paez looks even better. The phrase “generational talent” gets thrown around too loosely these days but he looks like one. A superstar in the making if he is coached right and settles well. His close control, ability to dribble multiple players, and most of all his confidence at age 16/17 is insane. Really makes me wonder why we’re going out and potentially dropping £60m+ on Olise when these two are waiting in the wings. Unless there’s a big clear out of wide attackers planned with Sterling, Madueke, and Mudryk all going over the next 12 months. Can't write all that and not link the video lad lol show me show me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Can't write all that and not link the video lad lol show me show me! Don’t know how to post a video on this forum! 😅 It’s from the channel SVMM. It’s 16 minutes long. YorkshireBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: Don’t know how to post a video on this forum! 😅 It’s from the channel SVMM. It’s 16 minutes long. YorkshireBlue and Pizy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,125 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Strike said: He has worded it ambiguously. doubts have emerged over whether Olise would favour a move there when there is also interest from Arsenal, Bayern, Newcastle and both Manchester clubs. I don't think he has clear info on what Olise is thinking hence worded it as "doubts have emerged" Those 'doubts' may very well be the writer's own for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,125 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pizy said: Okay, just watched a new, much longer YouTube video of Estevão and came away MUCH more convinced about him. The previous videos I watched of him made question if he was actually worthy of the hype and excitement. He didn’t look that special to me before. But now I’m legit excited about him coming next summer. What’s crazy is that as impressed as I now am with Estevão, Kendry Paez looks even better. The phrase “generational talent” gets thrown around too loosely these days but he looks like one. A superstar in the making if he is coached right and settles well. His close control, ability to dribble multiple players, and most of all his confidence at age 16/17 is insane. Really makes me wonder why we’re going out and potentially dropping £60m+ on Olise when these two are waiting in the wings. Unless there’s a big clear out of wide attackers planned with Sterling, Madueke, and Mudryk all going over the next 12 months. I agree on both counts. Estevao does look a huge talent in his highlight videos but Paez looks to be on another level, which only underscores the hype surrounding the Ecuadorian. All of which gives the two lads a lot to live up to, and us a lot to look forward to. As for Olise, of all the players linked, or signed, last summer he was number one on my wish list. (Although I had watched Palmer run the show against us in the 2020 Youth Cup Final, and had been blown away by his talent, he never occurred to me as a potential transfer target.) You do ask the right question though about what we're going to do with all of this talent. I'm guessing that the plan would be to put off any irreversible decisions by adding Paez to the squad and loaning Estevao to Strasbourg. If nothing else he should help their fans start to feel a lot better about being part of BlueCo. That plan would allow BlueCo to inject a few extra pounds into Chelsea in the form of a loan fee. If this is set at a level which covers the amortisation of his transfer fee, then Chelsea will essentially have signed the player for free. Later, if Estevao lives up to his potential, the time will come when he demands either first team football at Chelsea or a move to another competitive high level club. Then we have the option to add him to our squad if that is the correct decision or to cash in on his enhanced transfer value. Meanwhile, back at Stamford Bridge, Olise and Paez sharing playing time sounds like squad depth to dream of. The question still remains though can we get Olise. I'm not confident and in fact think we have no chance if City throw their hat into the ring. I've read that there could be no room for Olise at the Etihad because of Phil Foden. I don't see it that way however. Firstly, City have a clear strategy of a squad which represents two first elevens, rather than starters and backups. Secondly, Foden can play the KDB position, leaving Olise and Silva to cover the inverted right wing spot. Edited June 15, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, Pizy said: And they probably would be if we weren’t already well stocked in that #10 area with Nkunku & Palmer. Both Musiala and Wirtz are probably the next £100m players when/if they move. Musiala is probably impossible for anyone other than Real Madrid when his contract runs down a bit. Wirtz we would probably be after if we had room for him. Fits the Clearlake blueprint. High wages these type players doesn't fit into Clownlake model with wage cap up to 150 for a week .The problem is not that there is no place, but that we are not interested in such type of players. These players are proven wonderkids not these we take .Fact Edited June 15, 2024 by milka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 9 minutes ago, milka said: Musiala is probably impossible for anyone other than Real Madrid when his contract runs down a bit. PSG can afford him as well (do not see him going there though) to think we had both Musiala and Rice (at least £215 to £225m or so to buy them both atm) at our academy/youth teams, PLUS had a chance long ago sign Mbappe grrrrrrrrrrr OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 we have 20 % sell clause of musiala not not bad OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Pizy said: Okay, just watched a new, much longer YouTube video of Estevão and came away MUCH more convinced about him. The previous videos I watched of him made question if he was actually worthy of the hype and excitement. He didn’t look that special to me before. But now I’m legit excited about him coming next summer. What’s crazy is that as impressed as I now am with Estevão, Kendry Paez looks even better. The phrase “generational talent” gets thrown around too loosely these days but he looks like one. A superstar in the making if he is coached right and settles well. His close control, ability to dribble multiple players, and most of all his confidence at age 16/17 is insane. Really makes me wonder why we’re going out and potentially dropping £60m+ on Olise when these two are waiting in the wings. Unless there’s a big clear out of wide attackers planned with Sterling, Madueke, and Mudryk all going over the next 12 months. you get the feeling that the left side of the attack is too strong and the right side is much weaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 2,817 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 45 minutes ago, Vesper said: PSG can afford him as well (do not see him going there though) to think we had both Musiala and Rice (at least £215 to £225m or so to buy them both atm) at our academy/youth teams, PLUS had a chance long ago sign Mbappe grrrrrrrrrrr Mbappe probably gets signed early under current ownership lol. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 38 minutes ago, Mário César said: you get the feeling that the left side of the attack is too strong and the right side is much weaker completely backwards our right is FAR sronger on the left you have Sterling, Muddy, CuCu, and the ever-injured Chilly hardly the stuff of trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted June 15, 2024 Share Posted June 15, 2024 23 minutes ago, Vesper said: completely backwards our right is FAR sronger on the left you have Sterling, Muddy, CuCu, and the ever-injured Chilly hardly the stuff of trophies Yes im was talking abour our left foot wingers that play in right side of the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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