Strike 7,765 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, KEVINAA said: Yes I know but I'm here in Auckland , New Zealand. Time is 7.25 pm on August 31. When deadline hits at 11pm UK it will be 10am NZL. Deadline is 11 pm on Sep 1 will be Sep 2 morning for you (and me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Vesper said: Lavia I still have not confirmed to my satisfaction I am guessing around £100K PW 150 for Caicedo is terrible. I understand we had to fend off pool. But wtf that is just as bad as those 150 to Kepa. Caicedo might still flop easily and we will be stuck with him for 8 years. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,736 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 That Palmer thing happened fast. From a knocked back 35M bid to here we go in three hours. Medical today apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: 150 for Caicedo is terrible. I understand we had to fend off pool. But wtf that is just as bad as those 150 to Kepa. Caicedo might still flop easily and we will be stuck with him for 8 years. I don't see him flopping. There's a reason why Arsenal wanted him badly the previous window and then Liverpool tried to hijack our deal. I've seen sources say it's 125k base per week....which is reasonable for a young midfielder of his quality. Just remember that our negotiating position is bad as every good agent out there will know that we offered Cucurella 175k a week, Kepa 150k a week, Lakaka over 300k a week and even CHO's contract was supposedly up to 180k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: That Palmer thing happened fast. From a knocked back 35M bid to here we go in three hours. Medical today apparently Looks a tidy player, ticks the HG criteria box as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Caicedo might still flop easily and we will be stuck with him for 8 years. I think it's quite obvious this deal gone too far, especially given he was the plan B, but neither of plans a, b or c were very impressive and we seemed to have no other backup idea. Him and Enzo may turn out very good quality players, but they would have to become the hall of fame level for those pricetag to be justifiable with "it was worth it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Vegetable said: I think it's quite obvious this deal gone too far, especially given he was the plan B, but neither of plans a, b or c were very impressive and we seemed to have no other backup idea. Him and Enzo may turn out very good quality players, but they would have to become the hall of fame level for those pricetag to be justifiable with "it was worth it". How was he plan B? The very first thing we heard this summer was that we want Ugarte+Caicedo, and we ended up with Lavia+Caicedo Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 True , caicedo was first choice. Lavia is our plan b from wanting ugarte Vegetable and Vesper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,736 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Matt Law reporting Spurs weighing up late Gallagher bid and an offer for Brennan Johnson imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Matt Law reporting Spurs weighing up late Gallagher bid and an offer for Brennan Johnson imminent. Are we done this window now? I think we are personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,736 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Are we done this window now? I think we are personally It does seem so, but with us you never know. YorkshireBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Are we done this window now? I think we are personally I think incomings are done after Palmer gets announced but still lots to do with outgoings. Lukaku seems done already but Cucurella, CHO, Sarr, Chalobah need some moves sorted out plus some loans for the youngsters (Washington, Burstow etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 752 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Tino Anjorin will join League One side Portsmouth on loan until January. His future will then be reassessed in the new year. @TheAthleticFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 So is Washington staying with the team? Barely any loan talk about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said: I don't see him flopping. There's a reason why Arsenal wanted him badly the previous window and then Liverpool tried to hijack our deal. I've seen sources say it's 125k base per week....which is reasonable for a young midfielder of his quality. Just remember that our negotiating position is bad as every good agent out there will know that we offered Cucurella 175k a week, Kepa 150k a week, Lakaka over 300k a week and even CHO's contract was supposedly up to 180k a week. So far Caicedo has shown potential not quality. One good season does not make a word class player. If the contract is incentives based, fair enough but still. I was always against this signing on these terms. Even if he becomes a solid player like Ramires or Mikel he would still be a flop for the money paid. You can only get of this viscous wages circle when you sell the overpaid freeloaders (which we are doing) and refuse to hand out those contracts again, which we still struggle with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,736 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Palmer is at Cobham now. Strike, Reddish-Blue, DBGT and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 If we refuse to pay high wages outright we are doomed. Not giving money away for the sake of it ala United I understand, but when a player shines we need to pay in order to be in the conversation for the next big thing. At the end of the day football employs people and they will always strive to be better paid. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 752 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Chelsea will listen to offers of around £50 million should they arrive for Conor Gallagher, but he is content to fight for minutes at Chelsea. Tottenham's interest is genuine. (@JacobsBen) Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: So far Caicedo has shown potential not quality. One good season does not make a word class player. If the contract is incentives based, fair enough but still. I was always against this signing on these terms. Even if he becomes a solid player like Ramires or Mikel he would still be a flop for the money paid. You can only get of this viscous wages circle when you sell the overpaid freeloaders (which we are doing) and refuse to hand out those contracts again, which we still struggle with. He'll just join the list then alongside Cucurella, Mudryk, Lakaka, Havertz, Kepa as big money transfers that went wrong...wouldn't be surprised if we're adding Fofana to that list in the future as he'll have his fair share of injury issues. I'm personally not a fan of calling a player a flop unless they've proven that they can't make an impact. Caicedo was always going to cost in the 90 million range at the bare minimum and when Brighton realised that Arsenal were stupid enough to pay >100 million for Mr. Rice, they were on a mission to milk out as much money as possible for their midfielder. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, mkh said: Chelsea will listen to offers of around £50 million should they arrive for Conor Gallagher, but he is content to fight for minutes at Chelsea. Tottenham's interest is genuine. (@JacobsBen) 50 million? We need to add a Spurs tax and make it >60 million for them. Why should we strengthen a local rival with our academy player? Mattill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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