Vesper 30,224 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, ulvhedin said: You are overthinking this, he simply lacks technique - cant withstand pressing, cant pick up passes Its more than just that. He lacks insight and spatial awareness. I am not overthinking, I am observant and I am simply aporying the most basic of analytic skills. Gallagher could have double the technical ability but that doesn't remove headless chicken mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: Its more than just that. He lacks insight and spatial awareness. I am not overthinking, I am observant and I am simply aporying the most basic of analytic skills. Gallagher could have double the technical ability but that doesn't remove headless chicken mode. I think you are both right: it's an *and* Tbf, they are related. If the player struggles to control the football, he will have less focus avail for other aspects of the game. Typically players with sublime technique have an easier time with decisions. Edited August 22, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I think you are both right: it's an *and* Tbf, they are related. If the player struggles to control the football, he will have less focus avail for other aspects of the game. Typically players with sublime technique have an easier time with decisions. Of course he lacks both, but if you look at my initial post, I said he lacks 'Somthing that cannot be taught' Techical skills can be taught and/or improved via instruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 If Chelsea enters the race again u can bet on his price increasing again lol. Would probably be a 60m Euros transfer. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, robsblubot said: agreed. Disappointing with Broja injury issues. Always nervous about 20yo and injuries tbh. still wish Cucurella can become useful in the right system; I don't what that system ought to be tho. Maybe he can cover as a mobile CB in the 3-cb system as he has done last season, or a defensive LB if we even go back to 4 at the back. 🤷♂️ I just don't see him doing well in any of those positions. He's like Luiz but without the talent. At least with Luiz you would get a good performance out of him (as long as he had a solid CB partner). Feels like another Kepa except he's a LB. Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said: I just don't see him doing well in any of those positions. He's like Luiz but without the talent. At least with Luiz you would get a good performance out of him (as long as he had a solid CB partner). Feels like another Kepa except he's a LB. Yeah nothing like Luiz who was super skillful esp for a CB. I think Cuccu more like Azpi when employed in CB (3cb). He did well in some matches playing like that last season. Look I'm trying here... 😉 he's been pretty poor so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Whenever someone mentions the name Chelsea, the price increases by 10-20m Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, milka said: Yes because we need another unproven, inexperienced, development style project player to go with the 13, 14, 15 others we have. Will we just enter the u23s league and win that every season? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Yes because we need another unproven, inexperienced, development style project player to go with the 13, 14, 15 others we have. Will we just enter the u23s league and win that every season? Same goes for Kudus tbh. Im not sure who I would want. Probably Olmo, but no way we would get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 At least Kudus is 23 and not 19! Aiming low these days. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, robsblubot said: At least Kudus is 23 and not 19! Aiming low these days. 😆 Kudus 65 Eredivisie games with 23 Cherki 85 Ligue 1 games with 19 But I dont want both tbh robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Am I the only one who misses this ability at Chelsea? I feel like these modern footballers cant really shoot anymore. It helps u so much against low blocks. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Am I the only one who looks at Kudus and thinks he isn't that great at all? I'd rather Cherki tbh, he reminds me of Mata. Edited August 23, 2023 by DDA Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Arsenal will demand £50m from Chelsea for Folarin Balogun after the Blues sounded out the United States striker, 22, over a move to Stamford Bridge. (Evening Standard) I know nothing of this guy other than he's a septic, but I don't think we want/need him and certainly not for £50M Fulham Broadway and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, bigbluewillie said: Arsenal will demand £50m from Chelsea for Folarin Balogun after the Blues sounded out the United States striker, 22, over a move to Stamford Bridge. (Evening Standard) I know nothing of this guy other than he's a septic, but I don't think we want/need him and certainly not for £50M So apparently the price will be higher for us as opposed to Monaco. But the whole selling to rival in same league etc. What I don’t get is why Arteta isn’t keeping him ahead of Nketiah who is a worse player…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Vesper said: Of course he lacks both, but if you look at my initial post, I said he lacks 'Somthing that cannot be taught' Techical skills can be taught and/or improved via instruction. actually I thik the lacks some basics in technique that is not able to learn at this stage of his career 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,543 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Kudus would fill the role of what I think we looking for,a utility forward.for the front 3-4. Poch appears to rate broja highly enough that he doesn't want to risk buying someone that will effectively push him towards an exit.but we need someone who can cover him or Jackson when they are unavailable whilst being able to cover and potentially start at other positions,Kudus ticks all those boxes (as did Brennan Johnson) and to a lesser extent Barcola. Cherki has some Zola in him,his ceiling is higher than Kudus..doubts remain in his work ethic,ability or willingness to press etc.. But we could with our signings this season let our front players have more freedom to focus on being creative.so what if defenders have more time on the ball when they are 90-70 yards from goal when their midfield is being smothered. When teams "park the bus" against us Cherki type is what we need to get through it. Edited August 23, 2023 by Duppy Conqueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 174 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 The one transfer I am really disappointed didn't happen is Dybala. Would have been perfect, if fit. Any chance we can do something with Lukaku for him, or has this ship sailed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, ulvhedin said: actually I thik the lacks some basics in technique that is not able to learn at this stage of his career 😉 all the more reason to cash in (he is pure profit as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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