Superblue 6,372 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think what's important from that Ornstein video is that he is basically suggesting we have targets such as Enzo and if we can make a deal in January we will, and if we can't then we'll potentially return in the summer. I really hope this is the case and we don't end up buying for the sake of it this window. Whilst there will be mistakes and a learning and building process, I like a lot of what the new ownership are trying to put in place with regards to a football structure at the club with a more modern approach to scouting and recruitment. It's why I do believe with time, they could get something going here which is actually sustainable and doesn't require an owner to fund us year on year. But if we blink and start bringing in players who are just going to add to the current problem (an example in my head would be Edson Alvarez) I'll be far from impressed. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Horseshit man, all reports I saw today all said the same fucking thing, Enzo wanting the move and missing training, made smarty pants American think he can get him cheaper so he backtracked like a complete clown and Benfica when they saw this got rightfully pissed. Enzo can want the move all he wants, it doesn't mean Benfica are going to sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,481 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Superblue said: Enzo can want the move all he wants, it doesn't mean Benfica are going to sell him. Tell this to our idiot owner who thought he is smart lowballing because the player wanted the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Let’s see how much Enzo wants Chelsea when Liverpool, Barcelona, and Real start lurking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,946 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 It’s done and fucked. And I keep seeing Ben Jacobs retweet his tweets from days ago saying we should keep an eye on Caicedo and Alvarez as alternatives. Fucking depressing if we settle for either of these who are vastly inferior. Then Enzo will end up at a rival in the summer whilst we’re stuck with more deadwood. Useless fucking board. MoroccanBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Lol Brighton are going to bleed us dry for Caicedo. We’ve shown our hand. We’ve fucked our selves. As if they will even sell. Even so, bringing in Caicedo means Jorginho continues to be a nailed on starter. Kill me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Can someone who goes to games take a boehly out banner? This guy is going to turn us into a joke. He spent 250m on dregs in the summer and now is watching his pockets. We arent qualifying for CL this year. We arent going to win anything for the next few years. He has hamstrung us with his signings and appointments. We have lost credibility and respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Can someone who goes to games take a boehly out banner? This guy is going to turn us into a joke. He spent 250m on dregs in the summer and now is watching his pockets. We arent qualifying for CL this year. We arent going to win anything for the next few years. He has hamstrung us with his signings and appointments. We have lost credibility and respect. The bridge at full time tomorrow will be toxic. Battering and losing out on Enzo simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pizy said: It’s done and fucked. And I keep seeing Ben Jacobs retweet his tweets from days ago saying we should keep an eye on Caicedo and Alvarez as alternatives. Fucking depressing if we settle for either of these who are vastly inferior. Then Enzo will end up at a rival in the summer whilst we’re stuck with more deadwood. Useless fucking board. I'm 100% feeling the same way as you are but don't sleep on Caicedo... he is oen he'll of a player... I've been watching him closely at Brighton and in the World Cup and he really is a top midfielder. It wouldn't be the end of the World if we ended up with him by the end of the Jan..... but as alluded to in here already... Brighton will try to rinse us big time for him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, DDA said: I'm 100% feeling the same way as you are but don't sleep on Caicedo... he is oen he'll of a player... I've been watching him closely at Brighton and in the World Cup and he really is a top midfielder. It wouldn't be the end of the World if we ended up with him by the end of the Jan..... but as alluded to in here already... Brighton will try to rinse us big time for him now. He isn’t the profile we desperately need though. He’s another box to box aggressor. For fucks sake it’s 2023 and Jorginho still fucking starts for us. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,481 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Can someone who goes to games take a boehly out banner? This guy is going to turn us into a joke. He spent 250m on dregs in the summer and now is watching his pockets. We arent qualifying for CL this year. We arent going to win anything for the next few years. He has hamstrung us with his signings and appointments. We have lost credibility and respect. Hope so, this idiot is an absolute joke of a businessman. Basically killed everything Roman had done in all these years. Wonder how Roman feels watching this trash, probably angry and disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,481 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Rui Costa told Enzo that going to Chelsea was wrong for a player who had just won the World Cup and that “more prestigious and better organized clubs” would arrive in the summer, advances @DuncanCastles Enzo was not convinced and asked to leave for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Rui Costa told Enzo that going to Chelsea was wrong for a player who had just won the World Cup and that “more prestigious and better organized clubs” would arrive in the summer, advances @DuncanCastles Enzo was not convinced and asked to leave for Chelsea. Then Rui Costa can go fuck himself.... cheeky cunt. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He isn’t the profile we desperately need though. He’s another box to box aggressor. For fucks sake it’s 2023 and Jorginho still fucking starts for us. I know man... watching Jorginho struggle around the pitch is heartbreaking to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,946 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, DDA said: I'm 100% feeling the same way as you are but don't sleep on Caicedo... he is oen he'll of a player... I've been watching him closely at Brighton and in the World Cup and he really is a top midfielder. It wouldn't be the end of the World if we ended up with him by the end of the Jan..... but as alluded to in here already... Brighton will try to rinse us big time for him now. 16 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He isn’t the profile we desperately need though. He’s another box to box aggressor. For fucks sake it’s 2023 and Jorginho still fucking starts for us. Spot on here. Caicedo is essentially a poor man’s Kante. Covers a lot of ground, breaks up play, presses well. But he’s not classy on the ball and isn’t a string puller. He’s not going to keep the team ticking over and breaking lines with his passing. Caicedo is the type of midfielder we should eventually target in addition to Enzo in the next couple of windows once Kante and Jorginho leave. He’s the type you pair with Enzo in a midfield 2. MoroccanBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: Spot on here. Caicedo is essentially a poor man’s Kante. Covers a lot of ground, breaks up play, presses well. But he’s not classy on the ball and isn’t a string puller. He’s not going to keep the team ticking over and breaking lines with his passing. Caicedo is the type of midfielder we should eventually target in addition to Enzo in the next couple of windows once Kante and Jorginho leave. He’s the type you pair with Enzo in a midfield 2. I still stand by what I'm saying though..... Caicedo would be a great addition, rather than stay watching J5, Mount and whoever the fuck else starts in our dogshit midfield.... I honestly can't express how much of a gut wrenching feeling I am suffering from now that Enzo isn't coming..... I was literally pinning all our hopes of an uprising on this signing..... he is exactly what we needed to change the identity of our football... he was going to be the new dynamic, majestically passing heartbeat we have been desperately after for soo long. Fuck sake man. dimmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,481 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) I'm so happy we missed spending out 120m on Enzo now we can buy 2-3 bang average player for that price, we will have the numbers at least! Edited January 5, 2023 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, DDA said: I still stand by what I'm saying though..... Caicedo would be a great addition, rather than stay watching J5, Mount and whoever the fuck else starts in our dogshit midfield.... I honestly can't express how much of a gut wrenching feeling I am suffering from now that Enzo isn't coming..... I was literally pinning all our hopes of an uprising on this signing..... he is exactly what we needed to change the identity of our football... he was going to be the new dynamic, majestically passing heartbeat we have been desperately after for soo long. Fuck sake man. It’s going to be Jorginho + Caicedo/Kovacic/Kante/Zakaria/Ruben. He adds onto the list of advanced ball winners/runners. Enzo is the perfect profile of player we desperately need and we are low balling and likely walking away. Feel sick tbh. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,481 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, DDA said: I still stand by what I'm saying though..... Caicedo would be a great addition, rather than stay watching J5, Mount and whoever the fuck else starts in our dogshit midfield.... I honestly can't express how much of a gut wrenching feeling I am suffering from now that Enzo isn't coming..... I was literally pinning all our hopes of an uprising on this signing..... he is exactly what we needed to change the identity of our football... he was going to be the new dynamic, majestically passing heartbeat we have been desperately after for soo long. Fuck sake man. We will get Sangare and Alvarez. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) The big, big problem is we are NOT getting Champions League football next season... That is why it was soo fucking vitally important we got somebody like Enzo in before that becomes the inevitable reality. Now when the season ends, we have no chance of getting such a talent once the other big boys who do have CL come wading in for his signature. That's why this is beyond embarrassing for Todd.B. what the fuck is he thinking??? He doesn't understand that we look like an absolute shithow right now.... so we just have to overpay to stay relevant. Edited January 5, 2023 by DDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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