Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 51 minutes ago, King Kante said: Requesting €35-€40m for Kepa is just pure insanity if true. only GKs on the planet worth paying that for are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxlev 55 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Talking about center backs I don't know if our scouts ever had a look in at these guys. Jurrien Timber(Can play Cb and Rwb well enough) - Ajax Goncalo Ignacio - Sporting co Morato (very strong guy) - Benfica Nico Schlotterbeck(was quality last season) - Frieburg Sven Botman - Lille Maxence Lacroix - Wolfsburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: ffs 🤬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: Where did I say do not buy him? Neither Hakimi nor Theo are available, and Raum is off the board. I would rather buy Maxwel Cornet though for LWB/RW around £25m less and more versatile I also still rate Borna Sosa as well I am not alone: Manchester City To Focus On Borna Sosa If Marc Cucurella Deal Falls Through https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/transfer-rumours/report-manchester-city-to-focus-on-borna-sosa-if-marc-cucurella-deal-falls-through finally, there are Filip Kostic and Robin Gosens as well but I will certainly not lose my mind if we buy Cucurella he is just really expensive for very little goal/assist production (unlike ALL of my other names) Cornet was really good at Lyon and is a great athlete. Would not mind him at all. Pl proven as well. Borna sosa would be a gamble. I like his technique and attacking drive. Better than Raum imo. But not as fast. Sosa is a deluxe version of Alonso. Which is not bad at all. My feeling is we go for Cucurella bc he is the best defender out of those . Not sure if that is the correct strategy given we lack goals but we will see what cucu does with better players around him. personally I find all of maehle, cornet, sosa, Raum more exciting (and relatively much better deals) than Cucurella, still I am ok with that dwarf 2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: RLC is such a frustrating case. He has played every single outfield position for us and never looked bad. Never really convinced apart from that Sarri purple patch but also never looked out of his depth anywhere. Crazy athleticism, size, strength , silky touch. Just not smart, decisive, durable and energetic enough. Like that smart kid in school who never bothered to learn or speak up and ended up working for their Dad. So much wasted potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Your math is a little bit off - Rudiger, Christensen, Azpi, Sarr out makes it 4 leaves (Colwill was not here last season so he shouldn't count). Koulibaly, Fofana/Gvardiol, Ampadu makes it 3. 3 for 4 sounds much better than 2 for 5. Chelsea trio likely to leave after missing out on squad numbers Chelsea have chosen not to give Billy Gilmour, Ethan Ampadu or Kenedy squad numbers for the forthcoming season, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxlev 55 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I like Cucurella because of his ability on the ball. He was among the most consistent set of wb(s) last season. I also like wingback/fullback such Cornet, Cash, Coufal etc in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: Your math is a little bit off - Rudiger, Christensen, Azpi, Sarr out makes it 4 leaves (Colwill was not here last season so he shouldn't count). Koulibaly, Fofana/Gvardiol, Ampadu makes it 3. 3 for 4 sounds much better than 2 for 5. Yeah but whichever way you look at it we're still dependent on a wing back from either side being capable and comfortable playing in the back 3 to provide cover as if the incomings and outgoings take shape as being reported we'll have 5 centre backs at the club in a back 3 system and one of those will be 38 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxlev 55 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Yeah but whichever way you look at it we're still dependent on a wing back from either side being capable and comfortable playing in the back 3 to provide cover as if the incomings and outgoings take shape as being reported we'll have 5 centre backs at the club in a back 3 system and one of those will be 38 years old. And we did be fvcked if 2 out of the 5 cbs gets injured or suspended. For we only have Kk, Chalobah, Thiago as certainty for next season. I did prefer we keep Colwil and Ampadu in the squad mainly for rotation and cup games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maravel21 36 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, Vesper said: Where did I say do not buy him? Neither Hakimi nor Theo are available, and Raum is off the board. I would rather buy Maxwel Cornet though for LWB/RW around £25m less and more versatile I also still rate Borna Sosa as well I am not alone: Manchester City To Focus On Borna Sosa If Marc Cucurella Deal Falls Through https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/transfer-rumours/report-manchester-city-to-focus-on-borna-sosa-if-marc-cucurella-deal-falls-through finally, there are Filip Kostic and Robin Gosens as well but I will certainly not lose my mind if we buy Cucurella he is just really expensive for very little goal/assist production (unlike ALL of my other names) Cucurella is like Lionel Messi of defence or our kante ,very fast he is everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Cornet was really good at Lyon and is a great athlete. Would not mind him at all. Pl proven as well. Borna sosa would be a gamble. I like his technique and attacking drive. Better than Raum imo. But not as fast. Sosa is a deluxe version of Alonso. Which is not bad at all. My feeling is we go for Cucurella bc he is the best defender out of those . Not sure if that is the correct strategy given we lack goals but we will see what cucu does with better players around him. personally I find all of maehle, cornet, sosa, Raum more exciting (and relatively much better deals) than Cucurella, still I am ok with that dwarf Joakim Mæhle for RWB depth I am fine with, and will not cost a tonne, unlike Matty Cash or James Justin also, there is Ridle Baku (can also play winger, like Cornet) Edited August 2, 2022 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 What is annoying about Dumfries, Cucurella etc. is that they were bought for cheap a year ago, played one so-so season in a better league and now we are quoted 3x the price. They are basically still the same player and were available last year when we already needed wb cover. We should have bought them back then ffs. Serious doubts over our scouting department. lucio, Blue Armour, Fernando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Maravel21 said: Cucurella is like Lionel Messi of defence or our kante ,very fast he is everywhere we need offensive outputs from our wingbacks or we are fucked lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: Joakim Mæhle for RWB depth I am fine with, and will not cost a tonne, unlike Matty Cash or James Justin also, there is Ridle Baku (can also play winger, like Cornet) Baku is talented but has been badly out of form for months now. Doubt we would go in for him in such negative momentum Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Baku is talented but has been badly out of form for months now. Doubt we would go in for him in such negative momentum fair enough RB is SO weak globally 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: What is annoying about Dumfries, Cucurella etc. is that they were bought for cheap a year ago, played one so-so season in a better league and now we are quoted 3x the price. They are basically still the same player and were available last year when we already needed wb cover. We should have bought them back then ffs. Serious doubts over our scouting department. Hop aboard the train mate. It's my biggest gripe with the Chelsea set up over recent seasons. That 2012 - 2014 period where we bought the likes of Courtois, De Bruyne, Salah, Lukaku, Hazard, Oscar, Azpilicueta should have offered a blueprint as all of those players went on to success whether here or elsewhere. Instead whether through incompetent scouting or a change in recruitment planning, we moved away from this and would seem to rather see a player move to a next tier club first and prove their worth and pay the extra instead of taking a punt on a player for 2 or 3x less money but a less developed version of that player that needs time and patience. But even in the second scenario, a player could be loaned out for a year or two for that development like Courtois, De Bruyne and Lukaku all did so it shouldn't be a deterrent. I'm really hoping it's something the new ownership consider moving forward. They strike me as the sort of people that would be questioning why some of these players we're looking to buy have made moves in the last couple of years for a fraction of the price and will want to try and address that situation by positioning Chelsea to identify these players and try to recruit them earlier. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Emerson and Alonso will leave. Cucurella is cover for LWB/LCB and RLC is cover for RWB hence why we target left side instead of right side. We already have the cover for the right side in the team. James can cover for RCB if needed also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,248 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: What is annoying about Dumfries, Cucurella etc. is that they were bought for cheap a year ago, played one so-so season in a better league and now we are quoted 3x the price. They are basically still the same player and were available last year when we already needed wb cover. We should have bought them back then ffs. Serious doubts over our scouting department. What is worse... is that we were genuinely looking at him before he went to Brighton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Baku is talented but has been badly out of form for months now. Doubt we would go in for him in such negative momentum what do you think of (for DMF/CMF) ? Kouadio Kone: Midfielder Manchester United missed out on rips Bayern apart https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/kouadio-kone-midfielder-manchester-united-missed-out-on-rips-bayern-apart/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,112 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 £9 million man open to Everton move but Toffees decide not to pursue a transfer https://princerupertstower.com/2022/08/02/everton-Chelsea-michy-batshuayi/ bigbluewillie, ZAPHOD2319 and chelsea_4_eva 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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