Styl1994 188 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Vesper said: We HAVE to restart the new stadium. Soon Barca and Real BOTH will have new, 1 billion euros a piece completed renovated/redone 'best football stadiums on the planet' homes, PSG is in the process of a half billion euro+ redo, and Manure and Liverpool will keep on renovating and expanding Old Shitford and Spamfield. Spuds have a state of the art giant new stadium, same for Juve and Atletico. Citeh have dumped over a billion into their combined physical plant, Arse will soon do a renovation, etc etc (even EVERTON soon has brand new stadium, ffs). The only other clubs in terms of the giant old powers with a huge issue besides us (and they still dwarf us capacity-wise) are the 2 Milan sides, as COVID and financial issues are helping to collapse the new shared stadium for them atm. IF we are trying to get 'best players on the planet at their positions' players, our stadium crushes us in both revenue and pulling power (it is tiny and run down, so so not remotely world class). I cannot stress how important this already is, and it will only get worse as the years roll by. Go talk to Roman then not sure what a long post on talk Chelsea is going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Artandur said: Can we please stop taking something seriously that Pedulla said No because people like to be over dramatic for reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Norwich are hopeful about signing Gilmour on loan from Chelsea, but they face some competition from other PL clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Styl1994 said: Go talk to Roman then not sure what a long post on talk Chelsea is going to do. 🥺 Edited June 22, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Bayern are considering Haaland as a replacement for Lewandowski next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Vesper said: We HAVE to restart the new stadium. Soon Barca and Real BOTH will have new, 1 billion euros a piece completed renovated/redone 'best football stadiums on the planet' homes, PSG is in the process of a half billion euro+ redo, and Manure and Liverpool will keep on renovating and expanding Old Shitford and Spamfield. Spuds have a state of the art giant new stadium, same for Juve and Atletico. Citeh have dumped over a billion into their combined physical plant, Arse will soon do a renovation, etc etc (even EVERTON soon has brand new stadium, ffs). The only other clubs in terms of the giant old powers with a huge issue besides us (and they still dwarf us capacity-wise) are the 2 Milan sides, as COVID and financial issues are helping to collapse the new shared stadium for them atm. IF we are trying to get 'best players on the planet at their positions' players, our stadium crushes us in both revenue and pulling power (it is tiny and run down, so so not remotely world class). I cannot stress how important this already is, and it will only get worse as the years roll by. Pretty sure a new stadium isn't all it is cracked up to be. More of a vanity thing. I mean look at the stats: Le Arse: top team, build stadium and become also rans as they were unable to keep pace in the market to finance their stadium. Spuds: £1bn stadium with cheese room but now most indebted club in the world. Best player wants out and they're getting rejected by every half decent manager. Then when they find a manager decide not to pony up. Real: going broke Barca: can only sign free players. I mean, feck me, they wouldn't even pony up £3m for Garcia in Jan in the mists of a CB crisis. Only team that has really worked for is Juve, but theirs wasn't even that expensive and is barely larger than SB. For me, priorities for players are as follows: 1) Project 2) Money (sometimes in reverse with 1) 3) Lifestyle of city/country (sometimes higher, depending on player) 4) Training facilities 5) Friends in the squad For me the stadium comes under those somewhere, I would argue ownership is 6. What needs to be remembered is the players spend most of their time at training of travelling. That is more important to them than how fancy the stadium they play in as a pitch is a pitch and they're not sitting in the stands unless they stink the place up. I mean in all seriousness the only real benefit to them would be to be able to play on a bigger pitch as the SB one is on the small side which makes low blocks harder to deal with. Edited June 22, 2021 by King Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Blues Forever said: Bayern are considering Haaland as a replacement for Lewandowski next summer. same same same shit league sadly If I would a Dortmund fan, I would pray to sell Halaand this summer. Why they wan't to keep Halaand and just sell him next year for 75M€? If they sell him this summer they could won easily more 50/75M€ than next year, Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mário César said: same same same shit league sadly If I would a Dortmund fan, I would pray to sell Halaand this summer. Why they wan't to keep Halaand and just sell him next year for 75M€? If they sell him this summer they could won easily more 50/75M€ than next year, Fear of missing out on CL without him? That is €30m-€60m right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, King Kante said: Pretty sure a new stadium isn't all it is cracked up to be. More of a vanity thing. I mean look at the stats: Le Arse: top team, build stadium and become also rans as they were unable to keep pace in the market to finance their stadium. Spuds: £1bn stadium with cheese room but now most indebted club in the world. Best player wants out and they're getting rejected by every half decent manager. Then when they find a manager decide not to pony up. Real: going broke Barca: can only sign free players. I mean, feck me, they wouldn't even pony up £3m for Garcia in Jan in the mists of a CB crisis. Only team that has really worked for is Juve, but theirs wasn't even that expensive and is barely larger than SB. For me, priorities for players are as follows: 1) Project 2) Money (sometimes in reverse with 1) 3) Lifestyle of city/country (sometimes higher, depending on player) 4) Training facilities 5) Friends in the squad For me the stadium comes under those somewhere, I would argue ownership is 6. What needs to be remembered is the players spend most of their time at training of travelling. That is more important to them than how fancy the stadium they play in as a pitch is a pitch and they're not sitting in the stands unless they stink the place up. I mean in all seriousness the only real benefit to them would be to be able to play on a bigger pitch as the SB one is on the small side which makes low blocks harder to deal with. Physical plant expenditures do not count against the main club balance sheet (the one used for FFP). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, King Kante said: Fear of missing out on CL without him? That is €30m-€60m right there. They could spend that money to increase the quality of the squad. And don't forget they probably will sell Sancho. So.... they could receive aroud 220M€ with selling Halaand and sancho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Vesper said: Physical plant expenditures do not count against the main club balance sheet (the one used for FFP). Yeah, but someone still needs to pay for it. Roman is rich, but £1bn still leaves a hole in the pocket. That is even before we get to the fact that £1bn for our stadium is an underestimation. Spud bowl was meant to be £500m and went to over a bill and they didn't have to do such things as: Rip down existing site to build a new one on Excavate to the same extent (this also causes issues if anything is found of historical importance (possible).) Only have access from one road Have the building work occur in one of the most expensive areas of London. I mean feck me, the area around the Spud Bowl is like something out of a Mad Max film. Building access over a tube line (if something goes wrong with that it is a political and financial nightmare) This is even before we get to commodity prices currently (have gone through the roof, like 300-500% increases depending on the material) and wage increase. Pre-pandemic my uncle (a builder) was asking £200 per day now has work to next year at £2k a week. Best bet for Chelsea is that Hammersmith council take over Earls Court (they look like they will.) If they do, they will require an anchor tenant (they have admitted this.) We move there, build on a site that needs no excavating, is already flattened and has ample space/access and has much better infrastructure (it has three tube stops around it.) We then sell SB off or redevelop it for housing reaping serious £££££. Edited June 22, 2021 by King Kante Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Mário César said: They could spend that money to increase the quality of the squad. And don't forget they probably will sell Sancho. So.... they could receive aroud 220M€ with selling Halaand and sancho Yeah, but what if the players they buy end up like a Morata. It isn't as simple as just having the dollar then buying players. They'll have to get it right. I mean they were in serious trouble this year for top 4, it was only because Frankfurt shat the bed and Wolfsburg's form fell off a cliff that they got 3rd and that was with Håland and Sancho. Edited June 22, 2021 by King Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mário César said: They could spend that money to increase the quality of the squad. And don't forget they probably will sell Sancho. So.... they could receive aroud 220M€ with selling Halaand and sancho To add onto what @King Kante said, you're talking about a club that chose to let Lewandowski go to Bayern for free as opposed to selling him (they even increased his salary for that final year to get him to stay, IIRC) and a club that could have sold Sancho last year for more money as opposed to this year, albeit not by much it seems. Dortmund are a club that seem to know what they want and when they decide on a stance, they won't budge from it (unless something unforeseen/unexpected happens). The money there may be tempting and Dortmund have suffered a financial hit like everyone else in this pandemic but they aren't in a desperate financial situation, like Inter for example. They are still a club that wants to be competitive - be it winning a domestic cup, ensuring the CL money continues to pour in (finish in the Top 4 more importantly), making a run in the CL and/or maybe challenging/winning the Bundesliga. King Kante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 That's a good point. No doubt about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Haaland is a world class player who will be linked to everyone of course Bayern would like him on the cheep next summer I doubt he and his team will want to stay in Germany they will probably want to go to a different league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Hakimi is off to PSG, that's that done. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Hakimi is off to PSG, that's that done. source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mário César said: source? DiMarzio claiming PSG will bid 75 million + bonuses soon. I personally would feel sick if we bid more than that on Hakimi. And I'm Moroccan myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 that's a lot of money Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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