manpe 10,861 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Half of their team is unavailable, no excuses here no matter what team we put out. Let's use this opportunity to rest some key players. I would like to see this: Mendy Azpi - Rüdiger - Tomori - Emerson Jorginho - Kovacic Mount Ziyech - Giroud - CHO I wanna see Giroud get time, he's been unfairly frozen out imo and needs to gain some match fitness. Azul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Yes to Giroud, but we all know it's gonna be Tammy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 0 :0 ------------------------------ Mendy ----------------- ------James ------Rudiger------Zouma -------Marcos Alonso -------------------Kovacic ---- Jorginho(c)--------------- ------- Ziyech --------- Mount ----------- Hudson - Odoi ------------------------- Abraham ---------------- Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I've never heard a manager claim to be unfair. You can't cost the side a game if you're not selected. The proper judgement is not whether X, Y, or Z cost us a game. It is whether the manager was justified, all things considered, in making the choice that he did. All of our centre backs, bar Thiago, have been judged not good enough by at least some posters on here yet the manager has to pick someone for those positions. If you had been that manager some posters would now be second guessing your choices. Indeed, Frank has picked all of the CBs in question in various combinations and has been criticised for selecting each and every one of them. If all options are problematic there can be no perfect answers and certainly no easy ones. You wrote all that but I still don't see your point. I'm going to say this in the most simple way possible, try to follow me. Rudiger + Christensen made so many individual errors which costs us many goals and games. Tomori hasn't, so why does he give Rudiger + Christensen chances when they've underperformed compared to Tomori? Give a clear answer please. I don't want "all of our CB's are shit anyway" as an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Azul said: I don't want "all of our CB's are shit anyway" as an answer. Thiago is far from shit, and I think Tomori has enough potential to make him worth keeping. I also think Rudiger can rebound. Zouma and AC need to be sold ASAP, especially Zouma. If Rudiger cannot rebound, then he needs to go ASAP as well. Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, manpe said: Half of their team is unavailable, no excuses here no matter what team we put out. Let's use this opportunity to rest some key players. I would like to see this: Mendy Azpi - Rüdiger - Tomori - Emerson Jorginho - Kovacic Mount Ziyech - Giroud - CHO I wanna see Giroud get time, he's been unfairly frozen out imo and needs to gain some match fitness. Azpi needs to rest, he really is rapidly ageing Reece is young and can run forever the rest I am fine with Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, Vesper said: Thiago is far from shit, and I think Tomori has enough potential to make him worth keeping. I also think Rudiger can rebound. Zouma and AC need to be sold ASAP, especially Zouma. If Rudiger cannot rebound, then he needs to go ASAP as well. Zouma is better than Rudiger, he was our best defender last season. Thiago Silva is world class. Christensen and Rudiger are by far our worst CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Azul said: Zouma is better than Rudiger, he was our best defender last season. Thiago Silva is world class. Christensen and Rudiger are by far our worst CB's. a pre injury form Rudiger is easily our second best CB after Thiago the question is will he ever get back to that form Zouma is shit no matter what I have been consistent in this stance I did give him a big cahnce held my tongue for months he did not perform he is dregs when you look at a long run of games I have almost no fear I will not be proven to be right, no matter how much stick I get on the board people can disagree, it is their basic right AC is meh, but not a complete disaster (but still needs to be sold) I also was amongst the first to call for selling Kante I am deffo being shown to be prescient there as well I have nothing against Zouma and Kante as people at all they simple are not the players to carry us forward they are both so weak on the ball and with passing, plus Zouma is far too often out of position Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I like it. Strong attack Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I was thinking Chili would get a rest coming back from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Was kinda hoping to see Giroud but apart from that great lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Very surprised that Werner and Havertz start. Wary of them being run into the ground... Blue Armour and Vytis33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 wish Frank had rested Azpi and played Reece, and played Tomori over Zouma hopefully Giroud gets a nice run in the 2nd half, he is a big time European cup player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I was thinking Chili would get a rest coming back from injury. shows you how much Alonso burnt his bridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Strong team. Happy CHO is getting some game time! Would've liked to see Werner, Havertz and Chilly rested though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Guess Lampard wants to play the team into form a bit more? kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Rudiger went from being almost sold or loaned out and 5th choice to suddenly starting ahead of Christensen AND Tomori. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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