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Apparently you dont like him very much. Its about supporting our players. You dont support Mikel or do you?

I do. I want him to fulfil his potential.

HA! And you think everything is in mentality for player to suceed now. Chalobah is long term option, but if you think that he is better than Mikel NOW, you are delusional.

Yes, I think mentality is important. Technically and physically Mikel and Chalobah have it all.

What will set them apart is their mentality. But if you want to discuss the specifics of Chalobah's game, I'm more than happy to.

Seems you dont, People mentioning he should be superman to be ''worthy'' of our DM position. Again, his job is to pass carefuly. His job is to sit ahead back 4. His job is to mark in midfield. Not long balls, not forward passes. You keep say he should do all that and more. When he has CAPABLE partner in midfield who covers his role, Mikel is pretty fine with intercepting and tackling.

He should be Superman now? Is it easier to debate Mikel when you make up lies about what other people have said?

I say he should make long balls and forward passes?

You are a liar sir.

Yet he is typical DM and you keep moaning about him being not good enough for Chelsea...

Those aren't opposing points. :rolleyes:

Throw me some more names. Any explanation?

That having a medal doesn't confirm one's exceptional quality, nor does it exempt them from criticism.

I can see people support players. But some dont and I can see how you support him (lets sell him, he is shit, inconsistent, bad energy, cant make midfield better,...).

I support these players week in, week out. If you want to question that then we're really not going to get on.

Yet you would replace Mikel with him. LOL. It has to be as they say, what is not ours is always better than what we have.

Again, I don't think I've ever thrown Capoue's name into the ring as a replacement. Is this yet another lie or are you unable to read what people have written?

And please quote yourself as you, not ''we'' because its only you who is replying to my posts and try to give some counter opinion on everything I say. BTW did I killed your cat or something?

I realy wont bother with your posts anymore mate, sorry...

That's fine by me. You've shown yourself to be a poor debater and a liar.

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But aren't you one who's been mentioning Capoue's name for months in the transfer thread as an upgrade over Mikel? If I'm wrong I apologize, just seems like you mentioned he and Benat over and over along with others DM's.

I have mentioned him and couple others IF the board would actualy sign any DM to give Mikel some competition. But personaly I wouldnt replace Mikel and buy other DM. After all we have Chalobah and Romeu for future. I also mentioned Song or Witsel for example, but only if he would play along Mikel As for Benat yes. But he isnt DM and has nothing to do with Mikel.

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I do. I want him to fulfil his potential.

Yes, I think mentality is important. Technically and physically Mikel and Chalobah have it all.

What will set them apart is their mentality. But if you want to discuss the specifics of Chalobah's game, I'm more than happy to.

He should be Superman now? Is it easier to debate Mikel when you make up lies about what other people have said?

I say he should make long balls and forward passes?

You are a liar sir.

Those aren't opposing points. :rolleyes:

That having a medal doesn't confirm one's exceptional quality, nor does it exempt them from criticism.

I support these players week in, week out. If you want to question that then we're really not going to get on.

Again, I don't think I've ever thrown Capoue's name into the ring as a replacement. Is this yet another lie or are you unable to read what people have written?

That's fine by me. You've shown yourself to be a poor debater and a liar

I guess I would be good debater only if I agree on your opinion then? You just quote me to say everything opposite of what I say...ok If you think so, but you dont neccesary have right sir.

I see Mikel as good player. You dont. You would replace him with someone else if you could as he is not what you want from DM.

If you never mentioned Capoue as Mikel replacement fine, I appologise (even I thought you mentioned him or someone else).

P.S.: I said superman (that is general name for someone capable everything) because people expect him do to things he isnt required to do. Nor he can. They expect him to be like Yaya Toure. Toure is pivotal player at City (who has very offensive and open role), who is key of City game along with Silva. He is center of their play and gets ball all the time. At Chelsea Mikel is just DM. Mata and Hazard are players who pull strings and dictate midfield. Mikel has restricted role to make simple passes. Yaya has all the freedom he wants on other hand. And here the players are different. Besides DM role is very important mentaly for player and DMs are usualy older players. Toure is 29 nowdays...Makelele was 30 when he got to his peak. Dont call people Liars and fool yourself.

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people are bloody awesome on this forum... had any1 else in the chelsea shirt put on the performance mikel did today, that guy might have been elevated to the god status but the hypocrites that people are

Please explain this comment - 'god status' & 'hypocrites' tell me what you are alluding too?

Mikel was not the only one that was 'piss poor' against Southampton & he certainly wasn't the only player to get stick, he got some sledging because of his own poor performance yet you use the term hypocrites on just a few posts regarding the Southampton game?

You are also answering things for me - you are telling me Mikel is a player with a lot of limitations & also stating that he thrives more than anyone else in the squad with team performance, well that tells me he shouldn't be playing pro football!! If one of the detractors like me said this, the Mikel fans would be on me like a rash?!! Sorry mate but you have totally lost me......

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Please explain this comment - 'god status' & 'hypocrites' tell me what you are alluding too?

Mikel was not the only one that was 'piss poor' against Southampton & he certainly wasn't the only player to get stick, he got some sledging because of his own poor performance yet you use the term hypocrites on just a few posts regarding the Southampton game?

You are also answering things for me - you are telling me Mikel is a player with a lot of limitations & also stating that he thrives more than anyone else in the squad with team performance, well that tells me he shouldn't be playing pro football!! If one of the detractors like me said this, the Mikel fans would be on me like a rash?!! Sorry mate but you have totally lost me......

u actually have a problem understanding that statament... UNBELIEVABLE. btw y did u stop the quoting at "are"... i ll tell u what i said next. it was "give him a respite for a game". u think thats a call to give a god like status??? (by the way try again to decode the hidden meaning in the statement, its not that difficult).

few posts??? tell me a player who got half as much stick as mikel.

i was stating the obvious. do u think busquets is some1 who can win barca champions league single handedly. NO. yet he is a very efficient cog in the barca wheel. does he have 10 assits or 5 goals in the season, i dont think so, yet every1 knows how important his defensive positioning and even his 6 yard passes to xavi and iniesta are. saying mikel thrives on the players around him is not an insult to him and u need to understand football better for it. not every1 in the team can be a matchwinner, some1 has to do the dirty work and for us the best option is mikel. he might not be the best in the world by some fair distance but he is not as bad and he definitely does not deserve the ridicule he is getting from his own fans.

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u actually have a problem understanding that statament... UNBELIEVABLE. btw y did u stop the quoting at "are"... i ll tell u what i said next. it was "give him a respite for a game". u think thats a call to give a god like status??? (by the way try again to decode the hidden meaning in the statement, its not that difficult).

few posts??? tell me a player who got half as much stick as mikel.

i was stating the obvious. do u think busquets is some1 who can win barca champions league single handedly. NO. yet he is a very efficient cog in the barca wheel. does he have 10 assits or 5 goals in the season, i dont think so, yet every1 knows how important his defensive positioning and even his 6 yard passes to xavi and iniesta are. saying mikel thrives on the players around him is not an insult to him and u need to understand football better for it. not every1 in the team can be a matchwinner, some1 has to do the dirty work and for us the best option is mikel. he might not be the best in the world by some fair distance but he is not as bad and he definitely does not deserve the ridicule he is getting from his own fans.

Kalou, Bosingwa, Meireles....

Ones who didn't? Makele, Essien, Drogba.....

I think you'll accept that Mikel has shown inconsistencies in his performances against both weak sides (like Southampton, West Ham) , as well as strong sides (Juventus).

While he has improved significantly over the past 3 seasons, he still doesn't look like shaking off that tag of inconsistency.

All players can have bad games, but in Mikel's case the next one doesn't seem to be far off. The defensive midfielder is supposed to be one of the most reliable players on the pitch...that's why people have second thoughts about Mikel continuing to be first choice DM for this team.

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i was stating the obvious. do u think busquets is some1 who can win barca champions league single handedly. NO. yet he is a very efficient cog in the barca wheel. does he have 10 assits or 5 goals in the season, i dont think so, yet every1 knows how important his defensive positioning and even his 6 yard passes to xavi and iniesta are. saying mikel thrives on the players around him is not an insult to him and u need to understand football better for it. not every1 in the team can be a matchwinner, some1 has to do the dirty work and for us the best option is mikel. he might not be the best in the world by some fair distance but he is not as bad and he definitely does not deserve the ridicule he is getting from his own fans.

Yes, someone has to do the dirty work in midfield..but the issue with Mikel has ALWAYS been consistency.

He puts in a good performance against United...then goes missing against mid-table clubs...

Busquets isn't a matchwinner for Barcelona but he's a consistent player.

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Yes, someone has to do the dirty work in midfield..but the issue with Mikel has ALWAYS been consistency.

He puts in a good performance against United...then goes missing against mid-table clubs...

Busquets isn't a matchwinner for Barcelona but he's a consistent player.

i know. and thus i said he is "for us the best option is mikel" and " he might not be the best in the world by some fair distance but he is not as bad and he definitely does not deserve the ridicule he is getting from his own fans."

i am under no illusion about mikel's consistency. its the extreme hatred and some of the absolute anti-mikel comments that bother me.

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i know. and thus i said he is "for us the best option is mikel" and " he might not be the best in the world by some fair distance but he is not as bad and he definitely does not deserve the ridicule he is getting from his own fans."

i am under no illusion about mikel's consistency. its the extreme hatred and some of the absolute anti-mikel comments that bother me.

I reckon bringing in another DM is the best option for Chelsea and Mikel.

That way, we'll have another option for the midfield (it'll keep the players fresh) and the new DM will be able to challenge Mikel for his first team place.

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I reckon bringing in another DM is the best option for Chelsea and Mikel.

That way, we'll have another option for the midfield (it'll keep the players fresh) and the new DM will be able to challenge Mikel for his first team place.

probably. but it would also end mceachran and romeu's chelsea career for sure.

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