pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Yes, he had a bad game, he deserve critic for today performance, but some people just walked the line. He deserve critic, but not abuse. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'm was not defending Mikel, the comment about Lampard and Ake was more aimed at the people who were trying to make this performance look much worse than it was and saying he should leave in the summer because of it.How much worse could his performance have been? Ake worked his bollocks off in what was his third appearance for the club and you're criticising him? That's poor form.And no, it's not an easy yes or no question because you make a huge logical fallacy in that question in assuming that his attitude and performance today will always be the same in the future, then you go on to imply, based on 20 mins of football, that he is not worth to represent badge.This isn't about 20 minutes though. This is about 6 years of Mikel.When Mikel has a bad performance like today, I'm always one of the first people to criticize him, but I just don't try to make him look like an immoral enemy of the club by talking circles around the subject. No-one is making him look like an 'immoral enemy of the club'. He showed weak character leading up to this game and he's shown it numerous other times, and not just on Thursdays. The quote is illustrating what one of the greatest minds thought of those who constantly complain and criticize. It is easy to complain and moan, anyone can do that but understanding their decision and act is much tougher to do.I haven't constantly complained and criticised though. I've praised the performance of other players in other threads, as well as Benitez's performance. Sorry, but are you new to this whole football supporting malarky because bitching and moaning is part of it sometimes.Mikel had off night, lots of players have had similar lackluster performance and effort that includes our best players such as Mata and Hazard.Name one game in which either one of them gave such obviously disinterested performances? Doesn't even have to be one game each, just one game for either one where they've been too fucking lazy to do their jobs?We advanced to the semi final, move on.Earlier I asked if you were new to football. I'll rephrase that.Are you new to sports?agreed, i am done with this forum. I have asked Steve+Jim to delete my account. :tophat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Yes, I'm deflecting the blame by saying he had "a really poor game" and that there are "no excuses" for that. I know you're looking for an argument, but I'm not going to give you one i can bet anything that one of the mikel haters (some of whom are so disgraceful that they "had been waiting" for it) pulls u into an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 i can bet anything that one of the mikel haters (some of whom are so disgraceful that they "had been waiting" for it) pulls u into an argument. No they won't, because I'm signing off now Spike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 No they won't, because I'm signing off now NICE IDEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 matic > mikel xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Hope he gets sold to QPR and hates his life. He represents everything shit 'bout football. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."-Benjamin Franklin I love that quote because anyone that uses is doing all three of those things themself. Peace., The Mak and laura90 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Hope he gets sold to QPR and hates his life. He represents everything shit 'bout football.Talk about over exaggerating. Joe Cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Talk about over exaggerating.Exaggeratin? I shit you not When teams like Basel, Benfica, Ferbe, Atleti, Porto etc, have better DMs than our starting DM then you know shit just got REAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 agreed, i am done with this forum. I have asked Steve+Jim to delete my account.Because of some people (maybe idiots) on the Internet? A bit of an exaggeration but surely you have your reasons. Bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Exaggeratin? I shit you not When teams like Basel, Benfica, Ferbe, Atleti, Porto etc, have better DMs than our starting DM then you know shit just got REAL He should be a squad player. But he's far from shit. We won the European cup with him FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Because of some people (maybe idiots) on the Internet? A bit of an exaggeration but surely you have your reasons. Bye.He's pulling a Stingray? Shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cool 388 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 The problem with Mikel is that technically, he's subpar, and while that was excusable for Makelele, at least Maka had his ineffable game sense to make up for that. Not only that, but Mikel has awful positioning, shows terrible effort at times, and has horrid lapses in concentration which is the complete opposite of what is required from a holding player. We need to get ourselves a proper holding midfielder during the summer if we are to mount a serious title race next season. GodZola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 He should be a squad player. But he's far from shit. We won the European cup with him FFSBosingwa, Kalou, all played their part in that, Mikel wasn't the only one >.<, plus we were defending like hell, Ashley cole had the game of his life, Luiz was exceptional, Cahill was pretty good too . #factsdistorted #2muchmikelloveAnd just for the record, Kalou would of been a better squad player than Mikel #4realz #bringbackKalou lucio and GodZola 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Don't think he's really deflecting mate, he admitted he played absolutely shit. He's just pointing out others who also didn't offer much, which I agree with him on. Just because he likes Mikel, doesn't mean you have to jump down his neck ALL the time, even when he admits he was shit...CHOULOS HYPOCRICY AT BEST, remember the United game at Old Trafford? just because Mikel played well he gave Mikel all the credit, now just because Mikel plays bad and everyone else does he is allowed to point out everyone elses performance.Lets face it, we've been arguing with someone who doesn't even have a clue of what they are talking about for months. Backstreet09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I'm was not defending Mikel, the comment about Lampard and Ake was more aimed at the people who were trying to make this performance look much worse than it was and saying he should leave in the summer because of it.And no, it's not an easy yes or no question because you make a huge logical fallacy in that question in assuming that his attitude and performance today will always be the same in the future, then you go on to imply, based on 20 mins of football, that he is not worth to represent badge.When Mikel has a bad performance like today, I'm always one of the first people to criticize him, but I just don't try to make him look like an immoral enemy of the club by talking circles around the subject. Oh but i thought Mikel absolutely ran the whole United game and was responsible for us getting through that round of the F.A Cup due to his 40 minutes of coming on? Is that not true then? Backstreet09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 yes he is capable of playing very well but he also often plays like dogshit. no consistency and a horrific attitude. we could do much better. than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lucio 5,418 Posted April 12, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted April 12, 2013 we need to replace him with this guy. as we can see he leaves mikel on his ass. Leif, Spike, The Mak and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 you are all a fuck'n disgrace guys... really...wtf is wrong with you?...I think somebody should put you straight on youre way... some of you act like 4 year old kids... nobody said anything about mikels consistency and all you're points you just don't even back them up... read you're posts through and you will all see that you have one intersection and that is hate towards mikel..some of you accuse him of haeving no tactical sense (wtf?) some say he has no technique at all, some say he can't tackle some say he can't run...so all off you still don't have an answer about this...if he is so bad so you little guy whom nobody listens to and nobody knows can see, why is he kept playing and playing...when maka was here, when ballack was here, when ess was here, when deco was ere (DLP-Role)...get real you little kids really, I kept back...said this Mikel has real consistency issues and I've said that a hundrets of times... but he can be world class on his day thats a fact and he has one bad game out of eight... and its unbeliveball that some here admit, that the even WAIT FOR A PLAYER OF US TO DO BAD JUST TO SLATE HIM?! WTF?!...get grown up...he played under mou, under king carlo under scolari, under RDM, under Hiddink in crucial games he was rotated with ess under Rafa under Boas (until his bust up with him)...but you're not short of praising a player who has one GOOD game out of eight?...many of you are the same whom start bashing Moses.. I mean WTF? are you serious hes 20 he cost 7 Million and he has done tremendeous he was even better then Hazard before he hit the ground running and is a tons of time better then oscar and I really like oscar and think he can get one of the worlds greats...get straight... leave this topic if you don't like him we've got it... I do like him and I write everey now and then...maybe this is the only place for some of you to define you...I expect much better of some of you... (leif e.g.)you don't rate him you don't like him he is shit he can't hit the ball he even isn't a Nigerean he has probably painted him black... I beleve he would screw all of you...even Henrique whom hated him (if I am right, our arguments are far in the past) admitted he gives the team stability and we play better WITH him...and how Blackstreet09 and Kojo are still on here is beyond me... they don't deliver any new things and they just try to have a bust up... its obvious...AGAIN I think mikel has consistency Issues he has two weakpoints added to that, ghe deadly through ball between the lines and his shooting... I would really love to have busquet in our squad for 2 month... so ppl would see what a cuntface he is.../rant over Kieran., Rambo and didi007 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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