🇩🇪 Timo Werner

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1 hour ago, Chelsea_firstlove said:

https://www.talkchelsea.net/opinions/the-problems-outlined-by-frank-lampard-are-a-mirror-image-of-last-season/

I dont need to say another word. You can find another interview, Lampard was always talking about that.

I dont mean Pulisic wouldnt have a chance. He will. In some matches, when oppent team park the bus, his ability will help our team break the wall.

Talk about taking an old quote, one sentence from one (ONE!) game completely out of context to suit one's own agenda! 

Lampard was talking about that Sheffield United game in particularly, the overall performance and he did not even hang anyone out to dry. So, how the hell was that even specifically related to Pulisic?

Anyone who has seen Pulisic properly knows he is no ball hogger like Willian and is a direct player, who aims to create danger one way or another in the box. 

And only on Friday Lampard talking about the Abraham-Werner competition upfront...

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Talk about taking an old quote, one sentence from one (ONE!) game completely out of context to suit one's own agenda! 
Lampard was talking about that Sheffield United game in particularly, the overall performance and he did not even hang anyone out to dry. So, how the hell was that even specifically related to Pulisic?
Anyone who has seen Pulisic properly knows he is no ball hogger like Willian and is a direct player, who aims to create danger one way or another in the box. 
And only on Friday Lampard talking about the Abraham-Werner competition upfront...

To think pulisic is a ball hog youd have to have only watched highlights of our matches - that he didn't play in.

I mean the guys developed with Dortmund for fuck sake

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I didnt said Pulusic is slow, but compare him with Werner, he is slower. Werner is one of the quickest strikers in the world, we know that.

Alright, we'll see. I like it. This is worth more than any words.

Fair enough. Let's stand back and see how next season plays out.

 

 

Bloody hell typing on my phone is causing a ridiculous number of typos.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Chelsea_firstlove said:

Before you talk, you need to use google. Thank you.

lol What a convincing response! But whatever floats your boat...

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6 hours ago, killer1257 said:

His passing and his technique are not that great. His main assets are speed, movement and his shooting skills (apart from 1 vs 1 situations)

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Yup, need to improve his skill on the ball. 

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1 minute ago, Chelsea_firstlove said:

Ok. That means you dont know how to use google. Let me suggest.

With keywords : "Lampard" and " move the ball quickly", you can find tons of interview show how he want his team to play, he always wants his team play quick football. So it is NOT only ONE. This is his mindset.

Plus, we( I and @Supermonkey92) was comparing Werner and Pulisic, what the hell is Willian?

"What I tried to do last year at Derby, and what we will try to do this season, is have an aggressive team with energy, bravery on the ball and an ability to move the ball quickly," Lampard said.

https://www.givemesport.com/1488350-football-manager-predicts-frank-lampards-first-season-as-chelsea-manager

I like my teams to play with a lot of energy and speed, with and without the ball, so I want to win it back as quickly as we can. When we have the ball, I want to move the ball quickly and create chances and win games and feel like we are playing football that we enjoy. So, that is my job now

https://www.goal.com/en/news/i-can-be-successful-at-chelsea-without-new-signings-lampard/y5hzn62ohai1s5fi3yk9x1fy

 Chelsea boss Frank Lampard says his team failed to move the ball quickly enough and were too "safe" as they lost 1-0 at Stamford Bridge

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/50796720

Okay smart ass, no one is arguing over the need to move the ball faster and all that shit. But saying Pulisic likes to hold onto the ball, take more touches, do more dribbles is just stupid. He is less of a ball hogger than someone like Willian and Willian is constantly getting selected to be in the XI. Moreover, moving the ball quicker etc is only one aspect of the play. Someone still needs to make those attacking runs, taking shots, putting chances away and all the stats put Pulisic as our second best attacking player this season, behind only Abraham, which hardly suggests that Pulisic doesn't fit Lampard's tactics like you claimed.

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2 hours ago, Chelsea_firstlove said:

I think Lampard will and should do that.

Werner cant play as lone striker. His heat map show he plays wide left as striker. 

Why did Lampard want Werner and why will he drop Pulisic? Because Lampard want our team to play more quickly. This is a reason he want Ziyech too. The fastest passer and the fastest finisher. Pulisic is good but his style play doesn't fit Lampard's tactic better than Werner's. He likes holding the ball, more touches and dribbles.

Next season, we will see how the fastest dou work.

I honestly don't understand dropping puli for Werner to play faster. Pulisic is very2 direct. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Chelsea_firstlove said:

 

"smart ass" !?

Sorry my bad english, but this comment is an ad hominem? If it is, i will stop and this is my last comment in this forum.

I repeat again, i didnt said Pulisic is slow and doesnt fit Lampard's tactics, but he didnt faster than Werner and didnt fit Lampard better than Werner. So, dont talk about Willian. This is Pulisic vs Werner. 

 

Werner will play as striker not winger. 

And btw I'm not even sure Timo is faster than Pulisic. 

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Salty?

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Agent Rudiger on Werner...

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/06/22/antonio-rudiger-on-what-he-expects-from-timo-werner-and-his-part

‘Like everyone, I’m very excited that he’s chosen Chelsea and I’m looking forward to working with him,’ said the defender. ‘I’ve known him since he was 17 and he did very good in the past few years. He can be very important for us

‘His development was just "wow". In his first season everything was new for him in men’s football but then he started scoring more goals and of course with that comes confidence. He had very good coaches who believed in him and worked with him.’

Rudiger sees similarities between the German international and Leicester City’s Jamie Vardy, who has racked up plenty of Premier League goals in recent seasons, citing his renowned pace and ruthlessness in exploiting mistakes from the opposition.

‘He’s a really big threat to defenders,’ he continued. ‘RB Leipzig is a more counter-attacking team but in terms of attacking the defensive line, he’s similar to Vardy. He has a lot of pace and if the defender makes a mistake and loses the ball, then he goes!’

The pair have played together for the German national team as well as Stuttgart and been in regular contact in recent months. One of the most feared young strikers in Europe, there were plenty of suitors for the forward’s signature and Rudiger revealed the part he played in convincing his friend to join him at the Bridge.

‘I did speak to him before because we have known each other for a long time,’ said Rudiger. ‘We spoke a lot during the lockdown and he told me he was interested in coming to England. Of course then I did my bit, what I had to do.

‘I would say he’s a quiet, humble guy, always ready to do better,’ Rudiger added of Werner’s personality off the pitch. ‘I hope he adapts very quickly when he comes because as we all know this competition is different than others.’

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On 21/06/2020 at 3:48 PM, communicate said:

Yup, need to improve his skill on the ball. 

Isn't going to happen. Far too old to improve his basic talent level. He's got what he's got, and will have to work with it.

The comparison which keeps coming to my mind is Fernando Torres. Our former player had flaws in his game which some people overlooked but, Timo seems better than Nando to me. I don't believe we've bought the next galactico, but we've got someone who can contribute for us.

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7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Isn't going to happen. Far too old to improve his basic talent level. He's got what he's got, and will have to work with it.

The comparison which keeps coming to my mind is Fernando Torres. Our former player had flaws in his game which some people overlooked but, Timo seems better than Nando to me. I don't believe we've bought the next galactico, but we've got someone who can contribute for us.

He is similar to Torres in the sense that he needs to feel the trust of the people around him, has to be pampered a little. Probably not to the same extent as Torres but as many great players Timo is a sensitive guy. Anyway you should not compare him to post injury torres. Timo has way more pace than even pre-injury Torres. Still if he gets injured and loses that pace he is basically ueseless so we better hope he stays healthy his whole career which so far he has managed.

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7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

He is similar to Torres in the sense that he needs to feel the trust of the people around him, has to be pampered a little. Probably not to the same extent as Torres but as many great players Timo is a sensitive guy. Anyway you should not compare him to post injury torres. Timo has way more pace than even pre-injury Torres. Still if he gets injured and loses that pace he is basically ueseless so we better hope he stays healthy his whole career which so far he has managed.

In case you are unaware, I never rated Fernando Torres. Not when he was with Atleti and being linked with Chelsea, not while he was scoring goals for Liverpool and most definitely not on the day he joined The Blues. Only once before, on the afternoon we signed Chris Sutton, had I been so angry with my football club as I was on the morning I learned we'd done a deal for Torres the preceding night.

In saying that I think Timo is a better player than Nando, I'm therefore not praising our new signing as much as you might have imagined I intended to. I can't speak to Timo's mental strength, but I do like what he brings. I like his decisiveness when presented with goal scoring opportunities where he does not have time to think about it, and I like his decision making over whether to shoot or pass. Like doesn't cover the way I feel about his pace however. I don't like it, I love it.

I think Timo has limitations, but I also think we should be grateful for them. Yes, grateful. Were it not for those limitations he would have signed for a club higher up the food chain. He's not a galactico but he can, and I think will, improve us.

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5 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

In case you are unaware, I never rated Fernando Torres. Not when he was with Atleti and being linked with Chelsea, not while he was scoring goals for Liverpool and most definitely not on the day he joined The Blues. Only once before, on the afternoon we signed Chris Sutton, had I been so angry with my football club as I was on the morning I learned we'd done a deal for Torres the preceding night.

In saying that I think Timo is a better player than Nando, I'm therefore not praising our new signing as much as you might have imagined I intended to. I can't speak to Timo's mental strength, but I do like what he brings. I like his decisiveness when presented with goal scoring opportunities where he does not have time to think about it, and I like his decision making over whether to shoot or pass. Like doesn't cover the way I feel about his pace however. I don't like it, I love it.

I think Timo has limitations, but I also think we should be grateful for them. Yes, grateful. Were it not for those limitations he would have signed for a club higher up the food chain. He's not a galactico but he can, and I think will, improve us.

How on Earth could you not rate the Torres that was scoring goals for Liverpool. That Torres was the best striker in the World at the time. 

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How on Earth could you not rate the Torres that was scoring goals for Liverpool. That Torres was the best striker in the World at the time. 

Hahaha, Comparing prime Torres with Timo Werner. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Prime Torres was one of the fastest and most gifted technical players I have seen my whole life. His finishing, his dribbling and his pace was insane. Injuries fucked him up and that is why I never wanted him at Chelsea

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Hahaha, Comparing prime Torres with Timo Werner.

Prime Torres was one of the fastest and most gifted technical players I have seen my whole life. His finishing, his dribbling and his pace was insane. Injuries fucked him up and that is why I never wanted him at Chelsea

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Aye, Timo is nowhere near the Torres in red level. That guy was a monster. We bought a shadow of that guy. Timo brings different qualities but in my opinion he still needs alot of work... luckily je is young so he can improve his passing and hold up play.