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Convenient. Coincidentally he has an impending deadline for the book he has been commissioned to write. To get the 350k down payment he has to meet the deadline. So excuse me for having doubts about this announcement. I suppose that the problem with being a serial liar, no-one is inclined to believe him whether something is true or not.

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1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Convenient. Coincidentally he has an impending deadline for the book he has been commissioned to write. To get the 350k down payment he has to meet the deadline. So excuse me for having doubts about this announcement. I suppose that the problem with being a serial liar, no-one is inclined to believe him whether something is true or not.

he probably has it, I do not think he is that insane to false claim

who knows though

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13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

he probably has it, I do not think he is that insane to false claim

who knows though

More than likely 50% have it/had it according to Oxford professors. Nearly all get mild symptoms -just in a few it really attacks immune system it seems

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16 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I do not think he is that insane to false claim

Some of Johnsons big lies hes told throughout his career

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html

 

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1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

oh, yes of course, but this is so easily verifiable, especially if the rotter spins off this mortal coil

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7 minutes ago, chippy said:

Numbers of deaths in the UK now starting to rise very sharply and at this rate we're heading for Italy and Spain numbers.

as predicted :(

so many (NOT saying you m8 or anyone on this board) have been in denial

Sweden is a fucking nightmare due to our governments refusal to close it all down, and the USa is FUCKED

multiple experts have been on telly over there saying the best case scenario for the yanks is around 500K/600K dead, but it could be as high as 5 or 6 million fatalities in the ultimate nightmare scenario

so many of the Red states (or the ones with Republican governors like Florida) are refusing to shut down and Trump is aiming to declare 'all clear' on Easter

it is madness

The UK is going to be hit hard as well, tragically

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TBH, this board has been the most rational place on the internet in terms of coronavirus, and I on on a shedload of places

I think it is becuase we are so deep into analysis and risk/reward computations, and to slide it over from footie to pandemic matters is fairly natural

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The GPMB  -Global Preparedness Monitoring Board is led by former World Health Organisation (WHO) director-general and past Norwegian prime minister, Gro Harlem Brundtland.

It warned Governments in 2018 

‘A quick-moving pathogen has the potential to kill tens of millions of people, disrupt economies and destabilise national security. 

a future pandemic similar to the Spanish flu could spread faster than ever before due to modern advances in international travel, the document said.

It could take just 36 hours for an airborne illness to travel around the world and kill 80,000,000 people,'

 

Government really ought to pay attention to them.....

 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

as predicted :(

so many (NOT saying you m8 or anyone on this board) have been in denial

Sweden is a fucking nightmare due to our governments refusal to close it all down, and the USa is FUCKED

multiple experts have been on telly over there saying the best case scenario for the yanks is around 500K/600K dead, but it could be as high as 5 or 6 million fatalities in the ultimate nightmare scenario

so many of the Red states (or the ones with Republican governors like Florida) are refusing to shut down and Trump is aiming to declare 'all clear' on Easter

it is madness

The UK is going to be hit hard as well, tragically

I don't want to sound cold, but what would be hard though?

We lost 28,000 to flu 5 years ago and averaged out of years we lose about 17,000 a year, yet we almost take these loses as something which happens each year. 

Again, I don't want to sound cold, but if we in the UK  can keep the numbers to somewhere near the high level of flu deaths we had 5 years ago and have the "herd immunity" that we need for the future, then as terribly sad as that number of loses would be, I would see that as good an outcome as we could hope for.

 

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3 minutes ago, chippy said:

I don't want to sound cold, but what would be hard though?

We lost 28,000 to flu 5 years ago and averaged out of years we lose about 17,000 a year, yet we almost take these loses as something which happens each year. 

Again, I don't want to sound cold, but if we in the UK  can keep the numbers to somewhere near the high level of flu deaths we had 5 years ago and have the "herd immunity" that we need for the future, then as terribly sad as that number of loses would be, I would see that as good an outcome as we could hope for.

 

unfortunately I think thsi is going to far exceed the flu deaths and also we have no clue if there will be a herd immunity effect

that all said

there WILL be a vaccine

it is just a matter of how fast they can make it

I would think by next winter would be the soonest

next up to watch btw

is South America, as they are now entering fall soon and I expect cases to explode there over the next several months

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I think the main thing that is about to happen that will FREAK people out is when they (meaning the EU nations not already there and the US/Canada) start to hit peak ventilator penetration levels, and they start to have far too few

that is when granny gets death triaged,(ie no ventilator for her) when a normal healthy 35yo who has it super bad gets death triaged

that is when the panic will kick in as people will finally realise that they cannot just wander into the doc and it will all be alright

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