Jadon Sancho

[R2D2 368]

I kinda hope we somehow offload Ziyech before his value plummets, I don't see him making it in the PL and get Sancho in his place.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

5 minutes ago, R2D2 said:

I kinda hope we somehow offload Ziyech before his value plummets, I don't see him making it in the PL and get Sancho in his place.

Sadly that is probably wishful thinking on both ends. Pretty sure we will stick with the wingers we have andbe in the hunt for other positions. At the point we bought him, Ziyech was a shrewd deal. he impressed in CL and he had the creativity weneeded so much. His injury somehow killed his rhythm.

Sancho to manUre is written in stone already i feel. however i am not that bothered. they already have the exact same player type mutliple times in their squad and will hardly get a new dimension.

[R2D2 368]

15 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Sadly that is probably wishful thinking on both ends. Pretty sure we will stick with the wingers we have andbe in the hunt for other positions. At the point we bought him, Ziyech was a shrewd deal. he impressed in CL and he had the creativity weneeded so much. His injury somehow killed his rhythm.

Sancho to manUre is written in stone already i feel. however i am not that bothered. they already have the exact same player type mutliple times in their squad and will hardly get a new dimension.

But we lack a Sancho in this team, Ziyech was supposed to be that but he is awful beyond belief, I refuse to believe the rumours that Tuchel is happy with him no way this can be possible with his on field performances since Tuchel got here.

Edited April 25, 2021 by R2D2

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Just now, R2D2 said:

But we lack a Sancho in this team, Ziyech was supposed to be that but he is awful beyond belief, I refuse to believe those rumours that Tuchel is happy with Ziyech no way this can be possible with his on field performances since Tuchel got here.

I agree but at the time we bought him we lacked someone with a quality final ball like Ziyech for ajax instead of a proficient dribbler like Sancho which we got in Pulisic. But then again you can never have enough good dribblers in your team. IMO if you want to win things you need at least 2, better 3 or 4.

[King Kante 1,643]

On 25/04/2021 at 01:44, Magic Lamps said:

I agree but at the time we bought him we lacked someone with a quality final ball like Ziyech for ajax instead of a proficient dribbler like Sancho which we got in Pulisic. But then again you can never have enough good dribblers in your team. IMO if you want to win things you need at least 2, better 3 or 4.

Sancho is overpriced that is the problem. I have said it for a while, but as a 21 year old he is much better off staying at Dortmund for another two years playing week in, week out and then leave on a free and pick up a massive signing on bonus and huge wage elsewhere as he will only be 23 when his contract expires. 

Edited April 28, 2021 by King Kante

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

BILD saying its us and Liverpool after Sancho? Really? Hopefully that means we'll see less of the 343 next season. 

[R2D2 368]

43 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

BILD saying its us and Liverpool after Sancho? Really? Hopefully that means we'll see less of the 343 next season. 

No way Tuchel keeps the 5 at the back, I think it suited us and had to make fast adjustments but next season gonna move trying to attack more is my guess. Sancho would be an incredible addition.

Edited May 3, 2021 by R2D2

[Atomiswave 6,117]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

BILD saying its us and Liverpool after Sancho? Really? Hopefully that means we'll see less of the 343 next season. 

As TT said formations count for nothing, its the manner in which you utilize the system that is crucial. I for one cant see us switching, we are very stable with this system now.....and 343 is nothing new anymore, since we revolutionized the formation under Conte everyone been using it.

[King Kante 1,643]

35 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

As TT said formations count for nothing, its the manner in which you utilize the system that is crucial. I for one cant see us switching, we are very stable with this system now.....and 343 is nothing new anymore, since we revolutionized the formation under Conte everyone been using it.

Yeah, people are hitting the crack pipe too hard if they think 3atb isn't going to be used next season. The amount of control we have with it means you would have to be absolutely insane to switch to a back 4. I mean lets look at us in a back 4? All this season and last season, people just ran straight through us and our games resembled basketball matches. No way do you go back to that to get a extra AM on the pitch when you can do that anyway by deploying one as a WB if needs be. Our problem is a lack of instinctive goalscorer and that we have had to switch formations mid-season. 

Furthermore, people need to remember all formations aren't prefect and it is about the one that provides you with the best opportunity to win. 3atb is that for us and has been since Conte's time. Lets learn from our mistakes rather than repeat them. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

36 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

As TT said formations count for nothing, its the manner in which you utilize the system that is crucial. I for one cant see us switching, we are very stable with this system now.....and 343 is nothing new anymore, since we revolutionized the formation under Conte everyone been using it.

 

Just now, King Kante said:

Yeah, people are hitting the crack pipe too hard if they think 3atb isn't going to be used next season. The amount of control we have with it means you would have to be absolutely insane to switch to a back 4. I mean lets look at us in a back 4? All this season and last season, people just ran straight through us and our games resembled basketball matches. No way do you go back to that to get a extra AM on the pitch when you can do that anyway by deploying one as a WB if needs be. Our problem is a lack of instinctive goalscorer and that we have had to switch formations mid-season. 

Furthermore, people need to remember all formations aren't prefect and it is about the one that provides you with the best opportunity to win. 3atb is that for us and has been since Conte's time. Lets learn from our mistakes rather than repeat them. 

This system has a time and place but if you think we can carry on next season utillizing only this system for 60+ games, I think you both will be in a very rude awakening. 

The part in bold is the biggest misconception. The problem is collective with regards to decision making. What isn't making things better is the lack of attacking options, which only further emphasizes how wasteful we are. We are relying on 3 players to provide the attacking influence in a 343 when a 433 offers 5. Also, who is this mysterious ST that is going to come and solve our attacking issues single handedly? 

[King Kante 1,643]

23 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 

This system has a time and place but if you think we can carry on next season utillizing only this system for 60+ games, I think you both will be in a very rude awakening. 

The part in bold is the biggest misconception. The problem is collective with regards to decision making. What isn't making things better is the lack of attacking options, which only further emphasizes how wasteful we are. We are relying on 3 players to provide the attacking influence in a 343 when a 433 offers 5. Also, who is this mysterious ST that is going to come and solve our attacking issues single handedly? 

So, you're prepared for us to go back to defending like the keystone cops in order to get an extra AM further up the pitch? 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Just now, King Kante said:

So, you're prepared for us to go back to defending like the keystone cops in order to get an extra AM further up the pitch? 

I've stated that the priority next season is an Elite DM and CB, and Aguero for a couple seasons considering the lack of real options. I like the 343 but when 80% of the teams we face will have a low block, it makes the system redundant.