closed Chelsea 1-0 Newcastle

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:19, Hutcho said:

  On 19/10/2019 at 16:18, Jason said:

Even in a back 3, his attacking play can be sluggish. Just look at the contrast between CHO and Alonso when attacking. Night and day.

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Bit unfair to even start to compare those 2, no?

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The point is when we're attacking, you want the players to play with pace, move the ball quickly etc, especially against defensive teams. CHO was doing that but Alonso wasn't. He's already slow to begin with but when he's not on it as well, it just becomes painful to watch. 

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  On 19/10/2019 at 15:43, communicate said:

I told somebody if you want puli to play, play him high in mount or CHO position @Jason

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Don't think I've necessarily disagreed with that point in particular but am too tired to go through this again...

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Not getting ahead of ourselves here but we have a 5-point gap on Spurs and 8 on United (it'll stay 8 if they lose tomorrow) after today's win. And Spurs go to Liverpool next weekend, although we'll be at Burnley.

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:23, Jason said:

The point is when we're attacking, you want the players to play with pace, move the ball quickly etc, especially against defensive teams. CHO was doing that but Alonso wasn't. He's already slow to begin with but when he's not on it as well, it just becomes painful to watch. 

You can't compare one of our best talents who's a winger with a left back or wing back. Lol.
No shit CHO is much better than alonso at that. But for a wing back alonso is very good as he has proven countless times playing that role.

Not sure what the argument is here. He isn't a great left back. But he's a better wing back and has played that role well this season and very well in past seasons

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:44, Hutcho said:

You can't compare one of our best talents who's a winger with a left back or wing back. Lol.
No shit CHO is much better than alonso at that. But for a wing back alonso is very good as he has proven countless times playing that role.

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I just talking about the speed of play in general. Put someone like a peak Marcelo at LB and our attacking play down that side would look completely different.

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Well, that was a totally dominant 2nd half. Kepa barely had to move today.

Jorginho once again this season completely ran the game. It's strange, last season we saw every team (including the poor sides like Newcastle today) make it their absolute priority to press and shut down Jorginho. This season it's as though they've forgotten about that and he's bossing nearly every game. Give him space and he dominates any match.

Must be as obvious to Frank as it is to us that Kova is MILES better than Ross. His close control, dribbling, work ethic tracking back, and his ability to surge forward and beat players dribbling is another level. He HAS to be in our best XI.

Pulisic made quite an impact coming on which is encouraging. If he had been playing and was sharper he could've scored twice today.

CHO is nearly unstoppable in 1v1, isolated areas. Had everyone who tried to defend him on toast today. What a talent!

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I find it shocking that CHO is still only 18 years old  

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:46, Pizy said:

Pulisic made quite an impact coming on which is encouraging. If he had been playing and was sharper he could've scored twice today.

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Should have scored the second chance but decided to pass the ball to Abraham, who was actually asking for it. Oh well, his first goal wait goes on...

  On 19/10/2019 at 16:46, Pizy said:

Must be as obvious to Frank as it is to us that Kova is MILES better than Ross. His close control, dribbling, work ethic tracking back, and his ability to surge forward and beat players dribbling is another level. He HAS to be in our best XI.

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Think Lampard didn't want to risk playing Kovacic after he took that heavy knock against Wales. But thank god, he played well after coming on. 

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:45, Jason said:

I just talking about the speed of play in general. Put someone like a peak Marcelo at LB and our attacking play down that side would look completely different.

And we will have massive problem against set pieces and crosses though.
With Tomori starting, Alonso is pretty much a guarantee starter. He helped us against crosses and set pieces.

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:55, communicate said:

And we will have massive problem against set pieces and crosses though.
With Tomori starting, Alonso is pretty much a guarantee starter. He helped us against crosses and set pieces.

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Perhaps but that's another debate. It was just so painful watching Alonso in snail-mode today. 

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:57, Jason said:

Perhaps but that's another debate. It was just so painful watching Alonso in snail-mode today. 

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There was a moment in the game where we lost the ball near their box and Alonso was 'chasing' their counter. I was shouting not to get booked again!

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  On 19/10/2019 at 16:59, milan.cech said:

There was a moment in the second half where we lost the ball near their box and Alonso was 'chasing' their counter. I was shouting not to get booked again!

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The manner he picked his yellow was so silly. It looked like he was getting riled up by the Newcastle fans but thankfully, he kept his cool. 

[Alabama 1,992]

Callum Hudson Odoi is absolute quality... 

Give me Sancho/Madisson to play on the right when our transfer ban xpires... And let three mighty english musketeers of Odoi Abraham Sancho/Madisson murder the league in many years to come... 

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  On 19/10/2019 at 17:04, Alabama said:

Callum Hudson Odoi is absolute quality... 

Give me Sancho/Madisson to play on the right when our transfer ban xpires... And let three mighty english musketeers of Odoi Abraham Sancho/Madisson murder the league in many years to come... 

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Maddison? Average player let Yernited waste money on that dud.

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  On 19/10/2019 at 17:06, Nicco said:

Maddison? Average player let Yernited waste money on that dud.

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He looks quality or semi close to quality anytime I watch him play....might be wrong though that's why Sancho/Chiesa remains my first choice for right wing position when transfer ban xpires...

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On another note were the Longstaff brothers really made to look that good against United or were the media hying them due to the romance of them playing together?

I thought they were both absolutely terrible today.

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  On 19/10/2019 at 17:14, Tomo said:

On another note were the Longstaff brothers really made to look that good against United or were the media hying them due to the romance of them playing together?

I thought they were both absolutely terrible today.

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That's the English media for you. 

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