robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jas said: Operating in tight spaces is something I expect Werner to get better at. It's something that Nagelsmann worked on last season at Leipzig (see quote below) and I imagine Werner and Tuchel will aim to do the same. Nagelsmann: "Yeah, it’s part of the reason why we’ve started him a bit deeper, we don’t want him right on the last line, because he needs a bit of a head start, a bit of tempo, in order to really show his pace on the pitch. When he’s on the last line, he often finds himself static when he needs to get going, but with a bit of room in front of him, he can hit top speed. And from this deeper position, he’s much more involved in our build-up play and combinations. In the last few years all his moments have come in transition, whereas now he has his moments in combination play too. He’s having many more touches of the ball than in previous years, and this new position has done his development good, playing in between the lines against teams who sit deep. That’s another trait he’ll need if he wants to be one of the best in Europe. There are a lot of teams who sit deep and defend deep against you, and he needs that second way of being dangerous to opponents too, and he’s definitely developed that this year." fair enough. Point remains that Pulisic aint better at that. While he may not have the same deficiency, he has others. Pulisic lack of power makes him an easier target against low blocks imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I still rate Pulisic to come good in a big way. Ziyech I give one more year to see, same for CHO, unless we are going for Sancho, then all bets are off. Blues11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 It's a shame he did not score that 2-0. Would have been such a nice scoreline reflecting our superiority and the whole US would have gone even crazier. Captain America shirts are already among the best selling ones. We have climbed to 3rd place in international kit sales since we bought the little guy. I don't think he has improved too much under TT if at all but our focus was on defense this season, so much is clear. Puli has two qualities i value above most in a winger which are pace and intelligence. I dont doubt he has a big role to play for us next season. Johnnyeye, Blues11 and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 lol at when they were taking pics with the cup and his dad flung the medal back so that they can see the usa logo 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 That's a great penalty. Pulisic and Havartz never missed penalty I think. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 So now the Americans will convince themselves that they will win the next World Cup... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jas said: So now the Americans will convince themselves that they will win the next World Cup... If they had true football culture and their best athletes played football since toddlers like other nations, then with their athletes they would be damn near unstoppable. That will neve happen, as the cream of the crop gets sucked into the fairytale that is yank football (the odds are staggeringly against a person making a living in it versus real football), plus some for basketball (better odds there as the less talents can go play globally, unlike almost all yank football players). Plus the RW culture there has always thumbed their nose at football, called it boring and a (insert nasty slur) game (which is ludicrous and so typically 'Murican). They are so insular when it comes to global athletic culture that they cannot dominate. I think yank football should be banned, it is a brutish, viscous, destructive game that leaves 99% + who play it from teen years on (or even before) physically and mentally damaged, and far too often financially too. Look at this FUCKED UP shit the NFL was doing until THIS YEAR insanity NFL agrees to drop race bias in concussion claims https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57336282 The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have a lower level of cognitive function. America's top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming. Two black players filed a civil rights lawsuit over the practice. One black player involved in the litigation called the policy "classic system racism". More than 2,000 former NFL players have lodged dementia claims, but fewer than 600 have received compensation. Lawyers say more than half of NFL retirees are black. Attorneys have requested details on how NFL brain injury payouts have been apportioned along racial lines, but are yet to receive any details. Two former black players, Kevin Henry and Najeh Davenport, who were refused payouts under a $1bn (£0.7bn) NFL compensation scheme for brain injuries, launched a civil lawsuit over race-norming. But the judge dismissed the lawsuit in March and ordered the NFL and the main lawyer for the compensation scheme to negotiate a settlement. She also took the unusual step of calling for a full report on the racial bias allegations. In its use of race-norming, the league compares a given player's cognitive test scores with the supposed norm for his demographic group. Under the methodology, black players are assumed to possess a lower level of cognitive function than the average white player. But attorneys say the standard means that in order to qualify for compensation, the average black player must demonstrate a greater level of cognitive decline than a white counterpart. Ken Jenkins, a retired black player supporting the litigation, told the Hill: "This is classic systemic racism. Just because I'm black, I wasn't born with fewer brain cells." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Vesper said: If they had true football culture and their best athletes played football since toddlers like other nations, then with their athletes they would be damn near unstoppable. That will neve happen, as the cream of the crop gets sucked into the fairytale that is yank football (the odds are staggeringly against a person making a living in it versus real football), plus some for basketball (better odds there as the less talents can go play globally, unlike almost all yank football players). Plus the RW culture there has always thumbed their nose at football, called it boring and a (insert nasty slur) game (which is ludicrous and so typically 'Murican). They are so insular when it comes to global athletic culture that they cannot dominate. I think yank football should be banned, it is a brutish, viscous, destructive game that leaves 99% + who play it from teen years on (or even before) physically and mentally damaged, and far too often financially too. Look at this FUCKED UP shit the NFL was doing until THIS YEAR insanity NFL agrees to drop race bias in concussion claims https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57336282 The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have a lower level of cognitive function. America's top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming. Two black players filed a civil rights lawsuit over the practice. One black player involved in the litigation called the policy "classic system racism". More than 2,000 former NFL players have lodged dementia claims, but fewer than 600 have received compensation. Lawyers say more than half of NFL retirees are black. Attorneys have requested details on how NFL brain injury payouts have been apportioned along racial lines, but are yet to receive any details. Two former black players, Kevin Henry and Najeh Davenport, who were refused payouts under a $1bn (£0.7bn) NFL compensation scheme for brain injuries, launched a civil lawsuit over race-norming. But the judge dismissed the lawsuit in March and ordered the NFL and the main lawyer for the compensation scheme to negotiate a settlement. She also took the unusual step of calling for a full report on the racial bias allegations. In its use of race-norming, the league compares a given player's cognitive test scores with the supposed norm for his demographic group. Under the methodology, black players are assumed to possess a lower level of cognitive function than the average white player. But attorneys say the standard means that in order to qualify for compensation, the average black player must demonstrate a greater level of cognitive decline than a white counterpart. Ken Jenkins, a retired black player supporting the litigation, told the Hill: "This is classic systemic racism. Just because I'm black, I wasn't born with fewer brain cells." I actually enjoy watch American Football, it is super tactical. I agree there are a lot of things that are far from ideal with it, for instance a Running Back has a average career span of 2.5 years, but it is a good sport once you can appreciate the nuances of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Jas said: So now the Americans will convince themselves that they will win the next World Cup... You mean all nine of us that watch it? Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,315 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Pulisic got the winner - but game will be remembered for the punch up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 So at least he can have his holiday now. Gold cup is like from July 11 to Agusut 4 or so. Puli probably gonna miss whole preseason and miss the beginning of the premier league season injured. Nero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: So at least he can have his holiday now. Gold cup is like from July 11 to Agusut 4 or so. Puli probably gonna miss whole preseason and miss the beginning of the premier league season injured. Oh. Didn't know there's the Gold Cup this summer. Well, our pre-season is really gonna be mostly filled with kids at this point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanP2311 65 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Typical CONCACAF match, complete with projectiles raining down on the pitch, horrible refereeing, flops galore, and no flow. The referee pool is 90% people from leagues that are called very differently than most of the American and Canadian teams are used to. So they have to adjust to playing with constant stoppages for various forms of drama. And because of the off the pitch history of the Mexico-US rivalry (Google “Landon Donovan bags of piss”) there is real hatred between the clubs and fan bases. Long time USMNT fans loved to see Pulisic choose to celebrate in front of the Mexican fans. A LOT of water under the bridge there. The sub Reddit for this match was hilarious. One of my favorite entries — “Come for the projectiles, stay for the obligatory Mexican choking McKennie.” Edited June 7, 2021 by DanP2311 Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) It was one of the wildest... strange and poor quality wild Finals I can remember. So much going on around the pitch too. I love how Clint Dempsey just watches the guy take a 30 - 50ft fall like.... interesting. I have read several accounts the guy was seriously hurt. Do yourself a favor and read the Twitter comments.....so much winning. Edited June 7, 2021 by ZAPHOD2319 Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Jas said: Oh. Didn't know there's the Gold Cup this summer. Well, our pre-season is really gonna be mostly filled with kids at this point! Let's just hope Puli does not chose to make it a hattrick and also participate in the olympics for the US team lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Let's just hope Puli does not chose to make it a hattrick and also participate in the olympics for the US team lol. USA didn't qualify for the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jas said: USA didn't qualify for the Olympics. thank fuck. Puli is the guy to actually volunteer for this lol Would be mad from a club perspective if anyone else who participates in the euro also would participate in the olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanP2311 65 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Let's just hope Puli does not chose to make it a hattrick and also participate in the olympics for the US team lol. He is not participating in Gold Cup. He is resting and recuperating, getting ready to compete for playing time (as he said recently in response to a reporter's question). Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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