nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: HIs antics in the league cup final cost us the trophy tho i am sure Caballero would have won it for us. Blaming Arrizabalaga bc we didn't win the penalty shootout and claiming Cabalerro would have won it for Chelsea is.. I don't even know what to say.. strange. What makes you think that? Willy's history with City?  5 hours ago, Stats said: Leno has been dodgy this season but has made some very good saves too. Kepa is better than him though imo. Gulasci have not seen much of him so can't say anything in regards to him. Gulácsi is a very good shot stopper, has great reflexes but not exactly the modern GK prototype. His is nearly not as comfortable with the ball as Kepa or Ederson. As much as I would love a compatriot of mine at Chelsea, Kepa is a better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said: Blaming Arrizabalaga bc we didn't win the penalty shootout and claiming Cabalerro would have won it for Chelsea is.. I don't even know what to say.. strange. What makes you think that? Willy's history with City?  Gulácsi is a very good shot stopper, has great reflexes but not exactly the modern GK prototype. His is nearly not as comfortable with the ball as Kepa or Ederson. As much as I would love a compatriot of mine at Chelsea, Kepa is a better choice. Caballero is one of the best at stopping pens and i am sure he would have kept out agüeros weak pen. but maybe blaming kepa only was harsh. He still needs to heed the managers call instead of causing unnecessary drama. Gulacsi is ok with his feet. I get this modern goalie stuff but i think long range passing in a gk is a bit overrated. Having a perfect shirt distribution andgood first touch imo is enough for a gk and gulacsi posseses that nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Caballero is one of the best at stopping pens and i am sure he would have kept out agüeros weak pen. but maybe blaming kepa only was harsh. He still needs to heed the managers call instead of causing unnecessary drama. Gulacsi is ok with his feet. I get this modern goalie stuff but i think long range passing in a gk is a bit overrated. Having a perfect shirt distribution andgood first touch imo is enough for a gk and gulacsi posseses that Tbf if we are gonna blame anybody for that cup final the cock linesman who flagged Eden offside when he was clearly onside, going clean through and probably would of scored. Although eben then maybe that's clutching at straws haha. Penalty shootouts are as much luck as skill for me. You can research and analyse past penalties and shootouts etc again but the occasion and pressure can get to players, or others can thrive under it. I mean you can score 1000 penalties in training over a season but miss in a cup final. Or like you said about Agueros shank it a bit and still score. Even that CL final in 2012, Germans are notoriously ruthless at penalties but Schweinsteiger of all people fucked one (Cech did touch it tbf but even then he looked so nervous running up) and Olics penalty was on par with Matas in terms of how poorly hit it was no real pace or accurate placement. Even Mata he didnt look overly confident taking his one and he was probably one of the best pen takers at the club at the time along with Lampard, Luiz and Drogba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Tbf if we are gonna blame anybody for that cup final the cock linesman who flagged Eden offside when he was clearly onside, going clean through and probably would of scored. Although eben then maybe that's clutching at straws haha. Penalty shootouts are as much luck as skill for me. You can research and analyse past penalties and shootouts etc again but the occasion and pressure can get to players, or others can thrive under it. I mean you can score 1000 penalties in training over a season but miss in a cup final. Or like you said about Agueros shank it a bit and still score. Even that CL final in 2012, Germans are notoriously ruthless at penalties but Schweinsteiger of all people fucked one (Cech did touch it tbf but even then he looked so nervous running up) and Olics penalty was on par with Matas in terms of how poorly hit it was no real pace or accurate placement. Even Mata he didnt look overly confident taking his one and he was probably one of the best pen takers at the club at the time along with Lampard, Luiz and Drogba. You are right about the linesman and the luck part. But i think for the goalkeeper's side skill is a big part of it. Also Schweinsteiger and Mata IMO have always been poor penalty takers. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: You are right about the linesman and the luck part. But i think for the goalkeeper's side skill is a big part of it. Also Schweinsteiger and Mata IMO have always been poor penalty takers. Mata has always been quite prolific from the spot throughout his career in fairness. Wasnt Schweinsteiger not a regular taker for Bayern too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 54 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Mata has always been quite prolific from the spot throughout his career in fairness. Wasnt Schweinsteiger not a regular taker for Bayern too? No Schweinsteiger was for sure not the penalty taker for bayern. It used to be Ballack, then Ribery, then Gomez, then Butt, then Robben, then Lewandowski. Schweinsteiger only ever took 2 pens in regular game time IIRC missed one, scored one. Mata was our secondary pen taker when Lampard was not playing. I remember him missing at least two and i always hated his technique bc he hit them without any power and with so much curve. Which is shit bc in cases he aimed for the right side of the goal, the ball to end up in the net despite the curve it would need to pass very close to the goalkeeper. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: No Schweinsteiger was for sure not the penalty taker for bayern. It used to be Ballack, then Ribery, then Gomez, then Butt, then Robben, then Lewandowski. Schweinsteiger only ever took 2 pens in regular game time IIRC missed one, scored one. Mata was our secondary pen taker when Lampard was not playing. I remember him missing at least two and i always hated his technique bc he hit them without any power and with so much curve. Which is shit bc in cases he aimed for the right side of the goal, the ball to end up in the net despite the curve it would need to pass very close to the goalkeeper. I think he missed 3/4 for us, missing in Munich and twice vs Birmingham while netting against QPR. I didn't like Ash's penalty's either, he always went to the keepers left and it was only a matter of time before keepers clocked on,  luckily it was for Euro 2012 his luck ran out and not Munich. OneMoSalah and Superblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, Tomo said: I think he missed 3/4 for us, missing in Munich and twice vs Birmingham while netting against QPR. I didn't like Ash's penalty's either, he always went to the keepers left and it was only a matter of time before keepers clocked on,  luckily it was for Euro 2012 his luck ran out and not Munich. Agree with Cole's penalties they were always the same and predictable. However his pen in Munich was pretty much un-saveable, couldn't have been placed any better considering Neuer went the right way on it too. 1905didierblue, Tomo and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I was critical of him from the Jovic header but that save from Deeney yesterday was sublime. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Special Juan said: Â Genuinely baffled that people were saying Kepa went with his wrong hand on that save after it happened. Â Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Jason said: Genuinely baffled that people were saying Kepa went with his wrong hand on that save after it happened. Â Because he wears a Chelsea shirt and everyone bar Leicester hates us. You know this Jason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, DDA said: Because he wears a Chelsea shirt and everyone bar Leicester hates us. You know this Jason. Yes but saying that Kepa went with the wrong hand is totally entering the level of stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Jason said: Yes but saying that Kepa went with the wrong hand is totally entering the level of stupidity. The levels of stupidity are regularly reached in each episode of 'The Debate', 'MNF' and 'SuperSunday' whenever our Club is mentioned. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Jason said: Genuinely baffled that people were saying Kepa went with his wrong hand on that save after it happened. Â Those people know zero about goalkeeping, the techniques and what s right and wrong in that situation. That save could only be made by that top hand like MS said, his right couldn't reach that height. I coach all my 8 kids about this type of save and how MS explained it. Â Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DDA said: The levels of stupidity are regularly reached in each episode of 'The Debate', 'MNF' and 'SuperSunday' whenever our Club is mentioned. It amazes me that any Chelsea supporter pays any heed to anything written or spoken about us in the media. It is normally so factually incorrect to the point of drivel. I don’t think any tv analyst does any homework on the teams playing and most reporters stopped writing about what actually happened in a game years ago, all they report on now is controversy and their over inflated opinion. I loved Spackman as a player, but let's be honest he only gets a gig on TV because he played for Liverpool. A couple of games back against Prague he was going on about Kepa flapping at crosses whilst ignoring this fact that if he hadn’t come and got fingers on some deep crosses the unmarked striker at the back post would have scored. DDA and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 kepa costs the same of allison. good job board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: kepa costs the same of allison. good job board Allison turned us down for Liverpool according to reports. Kepa was the alternative. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 52 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Allison turned us down for Liverpool according to reports. Kepa was the alternative. This. And as we were in for Alisson i believe reports were true. Kepa is also exactly 2 years and 1 day younger and not too much worse. I dont think we should pin that on the board. Vesper, Supermonkey92, Fulham Broadway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Antonio8 said: kepa costs the same of allison. good job board Alisson is better than Kepa right now but wait 3-4 years and it might the other way around. They are both great goalkeepers in my eyes Vybz Kartel, Johnnyeye and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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