Jorginho

[the wes 7,212]

I don't think sarri will want jorginho at juventus they have Pjanić who could do the jorginho role at juventus 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, the wes said:

I don't think sarri will want jorginho at juventus they have panjic who could do the jorginho role at juventus 

Not sure if people realize but we don't exactly have great numbers or rather great quality in midfield. Jorginho has his flaws but also has qualities. Selling him will leave us with Kante, Loftus-Cheek and probably Barkley as our only decent/good midfielders at this point.

[Vesper 28,779]

50 minutes ago, Jason said:

Not sure if people realize but we don't exactly have great numbers or rather great quality in midfield. Jorginho has his flaws but also has qualities. Selling him will leave us with Kante, Loftus-Cheek and probably Barkley as our only decent/good midfielders at this point.

Plus RLC is probably done for all of next year

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Vesper said:

Plus RLC is probably done for all of next year

All of NEXT year? Pretty sure he'll back some time later this year.

[Vesper 28,779]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

All of NEXT year? Pretty sure he'll back some time later this year.

That is not what most all of the reports said after it happened. Here is an example. I hope he can come back after the winter break.

https://talksport.com/football/543841/ruben-loftus-cheek-chelsea-injured-year-achilles/

 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

That is not what most all of the reports said after it happened. Here is an example. I hope he can come back after the winter break.

https://talksport.com/football/543841/ruben-loftus-cheek-chelsea-injured-year-achilles/

 

FAKE NEWS! 

[Vesper 28,779]

Just now, Jason said:

FAKE NEWS! 

lets hope so, Achilles blowouts are bad news

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Pizy 18,368]

Wonder how/if his role and position change under a different manager. He really started to improve towards the end of the season. Needs to be key to what we do under the next manager.

[DDA 9,690]

Jorginho is like the poor sod who follows Sarri to England to only find out his father made a mistake (Chelsea) and has found an Italian woman back home who doesn't want any more kids that could upset the household (Juventus). He left his home where he was adored to live where he is under appreciated. It's breaking my heart. 😞

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

5 hours ago, DDA said:

Jorginho is like the poor sod who follows Sarri to England to only find out his father made a mistake (Chelsea) and has found an Italian woman back home who doesn't want any more kids that could upset the household (Juventus). He left his home where he was adored to live where he is under appreciated. It's breaking my heart. 😞

but he only has himself to blame. I mean everyone knows that players suaully stay much longer in clubs than managers so following a manager to a new club is never a good idea. Especially on a big money deal with a fat ass contract no one is gonna buy you out from. Jorginho is a limited player who is not useful in many systems. I see he has his qualities and the shift he put in the last 2 months is applaudable. He has a good attitude and improved his tackling and defensive positioning massively. But he is not a born EPL DM which are usually superior athletes so I doubt he will be our long term solution for that position with a new manager. I could see him in a double pivot if he increases his long range passing. But if Sarri leaves and we can not sign players, there is no way we can sell him, whatever the price. Also I loved the Kante-Jorginho-RLC midfieldand how effortlessly it dominated games. Not seen enough of it yet. 

[Vesper 28,779]

9 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

there is no way we can sell him, whatever the price

 

obviously we would be insane to do so

[Tomo 21,733]

17 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

but he only has himself to blame. I mean everyone knows that players suaully stay much longer in clubs than managers so following a manager to a new club is never a good idea. Especially on a big money deal with a fat ass contract no one is gonna buy you out from. Jorginho is a limited player who is not useful in many systems. I see he has his qualities and the shift he put in the last 2 months is applaudable. He has a good attitude and improved his tackling and defensive positioning massively. But he is not a born EPL DM which are usually superior athletes so I doubt he will be our long term solution for that position with a new manager. I could see him in a double pivot if he increases his long range passing. But if Sarri leaves and we can not sign players, there is no way we can sell him, whatever the price. Also I loved the Kante-Jorginho-RLC midfieldand how effortlessly it dominated games. Not seen enough of it yet. 

I find it hard to believe he came here without being aware of the possibility Sarri won't last. I imagine he was aware or failing that was made very aware of the score by his agent before the move.

There's previous examples of players following managers to their new jobs and staying a while after they've gone (Deco, Carvalho, Ferreira, Blind, Fellaini, Defoe, Thiago of the top of my head).

Just because a player had followed his manager once doesn't mean he's going to constantly do it until retirement and as you said even if Jorginho wants to do it this time we won't allow it, he has four years left on his deal and as it stands are very thin in midfield as it is without letting our most naturally gifted one leave.

[the wes 7,212]

No wonder jorginho got no assists poor finishing from players that was put on a plate from jorginho

[Hamilton 2,120]

Couldn’t he be a better fit if they switch him with Kanté?

[Vesper 28,779]

1 minute ago, Hamilton said:

Couldn’t he be a better fit if they switch him with Kanté?

We have to see who our new manager is and what formations they favour.

[Tomo 21,733]

5 hours ago, Hamilton said:

Couldn’t he be a better fit if they switch him with Kanté?

Only times Kante has played in that position was for France in Euro 16 where he was dropped and the first six games for us where Conte quickly realised his error and acted accordingly.

Having a player who's main attribute is energy screening the back four is criminal, if you think he's a shadow of his best self currently, you ain't seen nothing yet.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Only times Kante has played in that position was for France in Euro 16 where he was dropped and the first six games for us where Conte quickly realised his error and acted accordingly.

Having a player who's main attribute is energy screening the back four is criminal, if you think he's a shadow of his best self currently, you ain't seen nothing yet.

In my mind Kante and Jorginho would be a perfect pair in a 4-4-2 or a 4-2-3-1, thoughts?