🇮🇹 Jorginho

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

tbh I have no idea how our midfield is gonna lineup if we indeed get havertz. we would surely switch to 4-2-3-1 cos Puli, Havertz, Ziyech and Werner all have to start. So this just leaves two midfield spots and i dont know if any combination of Jorginho, kova, mount, kante will actuallywork as a double pivot.

Or

 

 

Kante Kova

 

Ziyech Havertz Pulsic

 

Werner

 

 

Tbh, adding mount to those 6 we have 7 players that versatile enough to play multiple positions in a match. The real difficulty will be getting defensive balance even as those front 4 move around.

 

This might sound ridiculous but adding rice as a dm helps even more, because we can switch between 2 cbs to 3 in game. We can basically position ourselves as a 343 when we have the ball Deep in the oppositions half.

 

Rudiger Zouma

Rice

 

Kova

 

James Ziyech alonso

 

 

Havertz pulisic

 

Werner

 

Hear me out, I know it looks weird, but when the fullbacks push up to give width Rice as a dm drops back to make a 3 cb with Kova sitting just in front like Matic would do in Conte's first season. Ziyech would be higher up but more central like the areas Kante would take to pressure anyone that was attempting to start a break.

 

Havertz and pulisic hover around the box with the fullbacks as options on the sidelines.

 

**obviously this is only the type of structure we would have when we have possession when the opponents are camped on the edge of their box. It keeps the centre of the pitch packed so that any counters have to go wide, lessening the danger**

 

When we defend without the ball we could play a 4141

 

James Rudiger zouma alonso

Rice

Ziyech havertz Kovacic Pulisic

 

 

 

 

Werner goal hanging lol [emoji38]

 

I think Frank is trying to get Kante to take those types of positions. Its definitely what he did against City and Aston Villa.

 

I'd imagine the point is to able to use everything from 433, 343, 4141 depending on the circumstances. Bayern and Liverpool are so good at that, but they are well coached and the players are intelligent enough to know where they should be and when. Its going to take some intense coaching for our squad to have that kind of game management.

 

On second thoughts this whole post is bollox.

 

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2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

He would sit on the bench though when Kante is fit to play.

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Depends whom we are playing against, he is def needed more often than not imo

[killer1257 3,282]

Depends whom we are playing against, he is def needed more often than not imo

Kante always plays under all coaches, regardless of the opponent. If Kante is fit, he will play. I would like a little bit of changing it up, but Kante seems to be too big of a name to drop

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34 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Kante always plays under all coaches, regardless of the opponent. If Kante is fit, he will play. I would like a little bit of changing it up, but Kante seems to be too big of a name to drop

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Kante is indeed needed and though this aint prime Kante or a Kante under Conte, he is still quality. But Gorgo too is crucial and should play a part in us reaching CL. He has been shunned simple as that for whatever reason I cant fathom.

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On 08/07/2020 at 3:11 PM, Vesper said:

 

Jorginho pass map vs Crystal Palace

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That's the whole problem with Jorginho, was he playing for the right or the left en side of the pitch? Does anyone know? What's his added value?

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And people thought that Jorgi was world class lol

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Hopefully people understand why he isnt playing now.

 

The one player in England even slower than Alonso.

[1chelsea 864]

Please sell him out


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Free Ship to Juve.

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2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

And people thought that Jorgi was world class lol

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If Jorginho started against palace instead of bringing him on against crystal palace when the opponents were tired, we would have lost that game.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Send him to Serie A now, get the cash and make someone a warrior. 

[The Mak 4,459]

Jorginho needs good midfield partners around him to succeed. Playing the man child Barkley (out of position) near him certainly doesn't help. Kante-Jorginho-Kokavic is our best midfield IMO but he can also sit out games where we have most of the ball anyway. There have also been games against City, of all teams, where we dominated the ball and it was because of him.

If Pep got him instead, I have a feeling we would be purring over the prospect of having him in the team. The fact is, there were a lot of players all around him today who do absolutely nothing to help him shine. He is surrounded by crap. A shakey defence, braindead fullbacks and two naive and shy midfielders who are out of position. I can't think of any player in his position who would have done a good job under those circumstances today.

I kind of feel sorry for him tbh.

[communicate 2,703]

Jorgi was awful today. I mean we can't do any buildup. I said Gilmour need to play like jorgi at times but Jorgi also need to play like Gilmour more, I mean a lot more. We can't do any buildup. 

[SUNZ 155]

One of the worst midfielders we have ever had. A complete and utter joke of a player.

[Alabama 1,992]

1 hour ago, SUNZ said:

One of the worst midfielders we have ever had. A complete and utter joke of a player.

Yet people will gather together and blame Mount for not providing tons or gallons of assists when he is yet playing his first senior top level professional amidst a squad in disarray...

[Vesper 30,185]

8 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Yet people will gather together and blame Mount for not providing tons or gallons of assists when he is yet playing his first senior top level professional amidst a squad in disarray...

Mount is FAR more valuable to our team than Jorginho

overall I think Mount has been so solid this year

he provides a tonne of intangibles

other than pens

Jorginho has, at least 60-70% of the time, been a negative

he is so shit defensively plus slows the fuck out of our play most times

and I don't want to hear about how many tackles he has, he is weak and gets caught out so often

we so so need to sell him

[Special Juan 28,141]

Need to just sell him, Kante is so much more valuable to this team.

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24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Mount is FAR more valuable to our team than Jorginho

overall I think Mount has been so solid this year

he provides a tonne of intangibles

other than pens

Jorginho has, at least 60-70% of the time, been a negative

he is so shit defensively plus slows the fuck out of our play most times

and I don't want to hear about how many tackles he has, he is weak and gets caught out so often

we so so need to sell him

It's so enigmatic to me yet fans pick on Mount....

Jorginho on the other hand is pointless only pointless side passes so soft as fukc cannot take control of the game whe  things go down south...no invention on the ball no creativity all sideways passes...

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Just now, Alabama said:

It's so enigmatic to me yet fans pick on Mount....

Jorginho on the other hand is pointless only pointless side passes so soft as fukc cannot take control of the game whe  things go down south...so invention on the ball no creativity all sideways passes...

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