Nicco 927 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Lampard comes in, takes his first pc, taps the microphone and says "Fuck Sarriball" And proceeds in taking us to the Championship, can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nicco said: And proceeds in taking us to the Championship, can't wait. I will have a bet with you, as much as you want we won't get relegated, fancy it? Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Special Juan said: I will have a bet with you, as much as you want we won't get relegated, fancy it? I was only joking would need an enormous amount of fuckery to achieve that even if you or me were the manager instead, I can however bet things go south before the middle of the season and our play will be even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nicco said: I was only joking would need an enormous amount of fuckery to achieve that even if you or me were the manager instead, I can however bet things go south before the middle of the season and our play will be even worse. If we brought in the best manager in the world there will be some sort of drama, it follows this club and it always happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 not being able to smoke a fag in the stadium messed with his head. after the Kepa incident I`m surprised he didn`t spark up there and then. result wise he did an o.k job...the thing that bugged me most was his statement he wouldn`t change his tactics till we perfected it..like why change if it`s perfected? adapt till you find a solution not keep trying something that isn`t working holding out hope someday it will..no plan B is pretty poor. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I still don't understand with this youth obsession. If you watch last few games when CHO started you can tell that right now Willian is better than him but people keep using youth as his excuse. If we play just with youth we will be lucky if we can fight for europa league spot. In term of Sarri. It is such a shame that he left, the majority of fans does not like him although based on result last season was a really successful season. There is no point discussing Sarri though, I spent a year defending him. Honestly I am glad that he is gone, deep down I know it is the best for both sides. Next season is going to be interesting. I still don't understand why people want Lamp. The only reason he is a candidate is that he is Chelsea legend that is it. Similar to Ole appointment. It is important to have clear vision of what we want to do for next season. Then hire manager accordingly. I read people want want klopp style football which is about transition. It is actually quite similar to Pochetino in some way. Against smaller side, pool use their fb to create chances . Trent crossing is brilliant and Robertson is not bad either. We can't do this. How many times did we watch our offense went to trash when it went to our fb last season. Plus we can say goodbye Jorginho as holder which is going to be welcomed by tons of Chelsea fans who want kante to be our holder. Defensively klopp is known for his pressing, It require everyone to be able press properly. One player does not press the whole thing break down and after watching the way CHO defend last year, he will struggle big time. Honestly if we want to do well and please the majority of the fans, we should just revert back to conte/Mou style. I certainly don't want this but without significant investment, it is going to be a massive struggle for us next season. Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 sarrivederci mr sarri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, communicate said: I still don't understand with this youth obsession. If you watch last few games when CHO started you can tell that right now Willian is better than him but people keep using youth as his excuse. A youth player isn't going to be perfect from the get-go. Maybe people just aren't used to us playing young players, developing them because we always buy players to solve our problems. You gotta have the trust and faith that with playing time, they will improve and get better. If not, then how will you know when will they be ready? To use an example, when Sterling first broke through, he was only 18 years old. He wasn't perfect to begin with but the talent was there (is still there) and he was trusted to play in the first team (played 1,747 PL minutes in 2012/13, when he first broke through at Liverpool and he's played at least 2500 minutes in 4 of the 6 following seasons) and look where he is now. And another thing with using youth players is stop ourselves from buying duds like Drinkwater, Zappacosta etc. Better off just using players from the academy and developing them than spending 30-40 million on players who aren't good and aren't going to contribute anything at all! Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Laylabelle said: Whoever it is will be our 12th manager since Roman took over. True but if you take the interim managers out of the equation, the next one will be the 10th permanent manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Well, good luck for him. Wish him all the best and also for his family. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Special Juan said: Lampard comes in, takes his first pc, taps the microphone and says "Fuck Sarriball" I would pay to see that, epic it would be, but also too low a blow. 2 hours ago, Nicco said: I was only joking would need an enormous amount of fuckery to achieve that even if you or me were the manager instead, I can however bet things go south before the middle of the season and our play will be even worse. And the same shit would have most likely have happened with Sarri as well, with his 1 dimensional footy and inept tactics. We wont get more boring than sarri ball, most times it was horribly flawed and bored our asses to death....well I was anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jason said: True but if you take the interim managers out of the equation, the next one will be the 10th permanent manager. 10 in 16 years. Guess it's worked because we've kept winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: 10 in 16 years. Guess it's worked because we've kept winning. When you think of it its fucking amazing we have won so much considering the managers we have sacked, no other Club will emulate this shit ever, its utterly amazing imo. But likely not sustainable.....eventhough we have heard that frase so many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 So last July when he signed a two-year contract and moved to London, his parents were doing fine. Now that he's got an offer from Juve, they've aged so rapidly he needs to move back to his home country to keep an eye on them. That's what I call a fortuitous coincidence. BXL70 and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jason said: A youth player isn't going to be perfect from the get-go. Maybe people just aren't used to us playing young players, developing them because we always buy players to solve our problems. You gotta have the trust and faith that with playing time, they will improve and get better. If not, then how will you know when will they be ready? To use an example, when Sterling first broke through, he was only 18 years old. He wasn't perfect to begin with but the talent was there (is still there) and he was trusted to play in the first team (played 1,747 PL minutes in 2012/13, when he first broke through at Liverpool and he's played at least 2500 minutes in 4 of the 6 following seasons) and look where he is now. And another thing with using youth players is stop ourselves from buying duds like Drinkwater, Zappacosta etc. Better off just using players from the academy and developing them than spending 30-40 million on players who aren't good and aren't going to contribute anything at all! There is difference in term of having 1/2 youth player as part of rotation than having tons of youth player in your team. I cannot agree more with your 2nd point but that is not what Chelsea fans want. They want their youth player play as starter. It is similar to what Ole did. Lets play Chong over Martial, of course United fans love it but it was recipes for disaster unless Chong is really better than Martial. That is why I use CHO as example. Yes it is fine to force CHO to play although Willian is better but if we do that with the majority of the squad we will be lucky if we finish 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, communicate said: There is difference in term of having 1/2 youth player as part of rotation than having tons of youth player in your team. I cannot agree more with your 2nd point but that is not what Chelsea fans want. They want their youth player play as starter. It is similar to what Ole did. Lets play Chong over Martial, of course United fans love it but it was recipes for disaster unless Chong is really better than Martial. That is why I use CHO as example. Yes it is fine to force CHO to play although Willian is better but if we do that with the majority of the squad we will be lucky if we finish 6th. Fans want youth integration but no one is expecting or demanding the manager to throw 11 players in. At the moment, there's James, Mount, CHO and maybe Abraham as well as Tomori. Hardly tons. Getting result is important but this coming season is also about laying the foundation, rebuilding the squad for years to come. Trudging along with the same set, over the hill players again isn't going to get us anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,702 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 not being able to smoke a fag in the stadium messed with his head. after the Kepa incident I`m surprised he didn`t spark up there and then. result wise he did an o.k job...the thing that bugged me most was his statement he wouldn`t change his tactics till we perfected it..like why change if it`s perfected? adapt till you find a solution not keep trying something that isn`t working holding out hope someday it will..no plan B is pretty poor. Now we are left with no identity again and starting a new brand. Pointless. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Thor said: Now we are left with no identity again and starting a new brand. Pointless. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Derby County manager Frank Lampard - Tactical Analysis https://totalfootballanalysis.com/head-coach-analysis/frank-lampard-derby-county-tactical-analysis-statistics Tactical set-up & style of play Frank Lampard’s Derby predominantly set up in a 4-3-3 formation with the wingers moving inside playing like number 10s to make it a 4-3-2-1 formation. This provides a lot of combination play through central areas, where the centre-forwards, wingers, and central midfielders play close to one another, setting up most of their attacks. The main change seen from last season’s Derby is the energy in their play, with and without the ball. The high pressure off the ball is matched by forward runs made to support and run beyond the players in possession. Offensive structure Frank Lampard’s Derby look to build up their play from the back, positioning their players in the optimum positions to receive the ball in good spaces, where they can be dangerous for the opposition. Their team is set up to play quickly through the middle with a lot of runners off the ball always giving forward options; a big part of their identity. It allows them to play directly into their attacking players, trying to threaten the goal as many times as possible throughout the game. During the build-up, their central defenders are close to each other, very uncommon for teams who play from the back. This allows them to offer simple passing options to one another with the defensive midfielder coming close and giving an option for the first forward pass. Their positioning also allows one central defender to advance with the ball, as well as build a structure to prevent a counter attack. As seen above, in their third of the pitch, Derby create triangles all over. Each player involved in building up will have at least two passing options to advance the ball further up the pitch. During the first phase of the build-up, Derby’s full-backs occupy low and wide positions. This set-up allows simple passes at the back and prevents congestion in midfield, stretching the play vertically while inviting the opposition onto them. Vertical lanes are created for one of the central midfielders to pick up the ball in space. The other central midfielder makes a forward run to find a more advanced area of the pitch where he can receive the next pass. The pass to the central midfielders triggers movement from the full-backs to make forward runs to occupy a higher position. snip a tonne more at the link above Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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