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9 minutes ago, communicate said:

But we finish 3rd, win europa league and reach final of league cup. So either Sarri is just lucky which is a very good skill to have as a manager or we as fans need to learn to shut up and start supporting our team unless everything is just so bad. 

Yeah but losing 6-0 to City and 4-0 to Bournemouth probably didn't win many people over at that stage. 

Obviously it got better but we did have a bad run for a while. Especially our League away performances.. We only won 2 away games so get the slight worry there. 

But its not like its just us. Every club fans do it. Look at Man U went from horray he's going to save us to booing. 

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7 minutes ago, communicate said:

But we finish 3rd, win europa league and reach final of league cup. So either Sarri is just lucky which is a very good skill to have as a manager or we as fans need to learn to shut up and start supporting our team unless everything is just so bad. 

We may have achieved those things but the process, the manner we did those things was so tedious, uninspiring, dull.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:
We may have achieved those things but the process, the manner we did those things was so tedious, uninspiring, dull.

Cesc mentioned that Sarri told the attacking players to stop making runs ahead of opposing defenders a few months into his tenure.

The downward turn was definitely more to do with him than I originally thought.

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Ah, a new manager. Great. That is the fix for consistency. Not like we don't do that all the time.

Crazy is doing the same thing consistently and expecting different results. This club is fucking terrible at managing players and managers.

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14 minutes ago, Thor said:

Ah, a new manager. Great. That is the fix for consistency. Not like we don't do that all the time.

Crazy is doing the same thing consistently and expecting different results. This club is fucking terrible at managing players and managers.

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Maybe this time, the manager is the one that wants to go...

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3 hours ago, Thor said:

I wonder why that is?

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50% lure of Juventus and winning leagues easily.

Our transfer ban

Having found it tough to adjust in the PL

He's done this kind of shit before.

Not being able to command dressing room(speculation)

Can't handle adversity at all. 

And not to forget - his team played terrible football.

 

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17 hours ago, Jason said:

Guardiola left Bayern for Man City in 2016. Must have been a new low for them...

He spent 3 years there and didnt achieve the goal, thats why they wanted a new manager.

Any bayern fan at the time wanted him gone because he didnt showcase "bayern philosophy" or whatever they called their german efficiency.

It has no comparisson to Sarri who will leave after one year. 

I was bit dissapointed with the performances (not the results) from Sarri, but anyone who expected better results from first season is dumb. He will either prove his worth in 2nd or 3rd season or he will flop. No way to judge him after one season where he had to completely change our style.

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1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

He spent 3 years there and didnt achieve the goal, thats why they wanted a new manager.

Any bayern fan at the time wanted him gone because he didnt showcase "bayern philosophy" or whatever they called their german efficiency.

It has no comparisson to Sarri who will leave after one year. 

I was bit dissapointed with the performances (not the results) from Sarri, but anyone who expected better results from first season is dumb. He will either prove his worth in 2nd or 3rd season or he will flop. No way to judge him after one season where he had to completely change our style.

Guess we'll never know now but based on this past season and with the transfer ban, do you really think we'll do better under Sarri next season with the same set of players (minus Hazard)?

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Guess we'll never know now but based on this past season and with the transfer ban, do you really think we'll do better under Sarri next season with the same set of players (minus Hazard)?

Yes. We improved in the second half of the season. Easily beaten by Liverpool and city but that a because of the difference in players. That's not down to the manager. 

Jorginho also improved. Plus without hazard i expect us to be better defensively. To press better, to move the ball quicker (he holds on to it for quite long). Pulisic can press and has good movement. I expect CHO to continue his development as with RLC when they are back. 

Emerson will have taken a starting position  and I would hope Reece James puts Azpi under pressure. 

In short, I think Sarri would have been able to stamp his style on better. I'm actually disappointed he's leaving. 

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4 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Yes. We improved in the second half of the season. Easily beaten by Liverpool and city but that a because of the difference in players. That's not down to the manager. 

Jorginho also improved. Plus without hazard i expect us to be better defensively. To press better, to move the ball quicker (he holds on to it for quite long). Pulisic can press and has good movement. I expect CHO to continue his development as with RLC when they are back. 

Emerson will have taken a starting position  and I would hope Reece James puts Azpi under pressure. 

In short, I think Sarri would have been able to stamp his style on better. I'm actually disappointed he's leaving. 

We also lost easily to Everton, Arsenal, Bournemouth (4-0!!!) and only beat some terrible teams. Results and performances looked encouraging due to facing some hopeless oppositions in the Europa League. Only because Loftus-Cheek and CHO played late in the season that they were able to instill some excitement, quality and freshness into an otherwise stale and tedious side. 

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14 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Yes. We improved in the second half of the season. Easily beaten by Liverpool and city but that a because of the difference in players. That's not down to the manager. 

Jorginho also improved. Plus without hazard i expect us to be better defensively. To press better, to move the ball quicker (he holds on to it for quite long). Pulisic can press and has good movement. I expect CHO to continue his development as with RLC when they are back. 

Emerson will have taken a starting position  and I would hope Reece James puts Azpi under pressure. 

In short, I think Sarri would have been able to stamp his style on better. I'm actually disappointed he's leaving. 

How did we improve in the second half of the season? It was the same BS after the first 10 games or so. Look at our away way games, just horrible. Jorgo got better the last 6-7 games or so and showed great promise though. You think we will be faster and better cuz Eden aint there? He was THE guy to get us goals, THE guy to make the oppoenent shit themselves.....he isnt coutinho or Sanchez, make no mistake we will be worse off without him.  His lack of plan b and his terrible substitutions have had most of us scratch our heads. Sari unfortunately is one dimensional meaning he doesn’t adapt as a game evolves there is almost an arrogance in that he sticks to his game plan irrespective of how the opposition adapt

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5 hours ago, Jason said:

Guess we'll never know now but based on this past season and with the transfer ban, do you really think we'll do better under Sarri next season with the same set of players (minus Hazard)?

I believe we will do better for the future.

Young players will get established and we will actualy have a new core for next era. 

If we bring Lamps or Allegri, they will be stop gap. We are just doing side steps. Make the most of the current team ala Conte and play whatever style suits them. The results would probably be better next season, but then we start all over again because thats not long term solution. 

Sarri has James, Rudiger, Luiz (Christensen), Emerson, Kante, Jorginho, RLC, Pulisic, Odoi. The striker is a real issue indeed. Others can improve and suit Sarri style or whoever that plays attacking football takes over eventualy.

If the club sees Lamps as long term solution and start a fucking project already, then good. But we all know they would bring him for short fix which is just papering over cracks. 

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