Ross Barkley

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7 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Already started with a great pass to Tammy last match

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He’s had spells or moments of quality. And even then, it wasnt exactly against elite opposition that actually led to a goal. Never a prolonged period of good form. The dummy against Otamendi and goal against Frankfurt 
is the new Oscar brace against Juventus. 

Looking forward to all the reactions when, not if, when RLC doesn’t live to their irrational expectations. 

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Name me one player that can play such a pass that is in our squad?

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1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

Name me one player that can play such a pass that is in our squad?

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If he plays that consistently, then we'll talk. Otherwise, playing it once means zilch because every player has their day with a spectacular goal or assist. 

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53 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

All English players are not good enough for starting 11 tbh.

RLC from last season was fine.

most English footballers are the most overrated group in the world

the only ones I truly rate atm (would would be on a 25 man roster or loaned out for development and then brought back)

Raheem Sterling   
Jadon Sancho   
Trent Alexander-Arnold    
Marcus Rashford    
Declan Rice   
James Maddison  
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
Mason Greenwood 
Phil Foden   
Dominic Calvert-Lewin  
Bukayo Saka 
Dean Henderson   (backup)
Jude Bellingham   (loan him out)

 

that said
obviously we are not going to flush all of ours, as I cannot see any of the following being sold atm Mount, Reece,, Tomori, RLC, Faustino Anjorin, CHO (although he looks a shadow post Achillies, as does RLC), Lewis Bate, etc

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sell Barkley ASAP

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most Eglis footballers are the most overrated group in the world
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CHO (although he looks a shadow post Achillies, as does RLC), Lewis Bate, etc

Ruben played 240 minutes and played mostly coming from the bench and he played one great assist to Tammy, so he made a match winning assist already. Lampard used him twice as a winger and he could have shown more for instance against Leicester in the cup when he came on, but Barkley played three hospital passes to Ruben, which fucked the three counter attacks up. He still is strong and he still has his pace. If he has still this great close dribbling skills, we will see next season but maybe Lamps still sees Barkley as a starter. Who knows

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36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am (and have been) a member of the 'he probably is ruined for years or maybe for good due to a horrific Achilles tear' crew

same for CHO

and I called Emerson years ago

he never recovered from his horrific knee injury at Roma

we bought damaged goods

I doubt we will ever see the best of RLC again, I dont see it.

Sell Ross and Jorgo, buy Kai and Partey. Instant improvement. That would give us Kante Mount Kova Billy Kai and Partey for midfield.

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5 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I doubt we will ever see the best of RLC again, I dont see it.

Sell Ross and Jorgo, buy Kai and Partey. Instant improvement. That would give us Kante Mount Kova Billy Kai and Partey for midfield.

as for DMF

I dont see any links between us and Thomas

all I see is Declan (and that is supposedly as a CB)

long ago Boubakary Soumaré

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as for DMF
I dont see any links between us and Thomas
all I see is Declan (and that is supposedly as a CB)
long ago Boubakary Soumaré

How good is Rice technically?

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Everyone on here knows and has said that Barkley is not good enough. Obvioulsy Lamps has a soft spot for Barkley and Mount so they are playing. Also because they are English and they understand him better than our other midfielders. But whilst Mount has at least some promise with his energy and would probably be a decent addition for a team that is already completed, he clearly has not the talent to carry our midfield which he currently is asked to do. Barkley on the other hand just is superfluous. He may be a good soldier who does what  is asked of him to the best of his ability. Its just his ability is not there. He used to be an interesting talent back in his first 3 years at Everton when he would drive at defenders with pace and shoot from ourtrageous distance. Teams just couldnt deal with him. But this does not work vs parked buses. And as he matured he got positionally more disciplined he completely erased his natural attacking instincts to become the personified mediocrity he is now. He just relegated himself to be a complete redundancy. You can't blame him for trying to develop into a better player. Boy has he tried. He always wants the ball, always tries to work something hard, works hard in training from what i have read but he just does not cut it. Again, in a world where he could just drive through midfield keep his head down and shoot he would be perfect. But he neither has the talent nor the football intelligence to develop himself into what we need. It is foolish to insist on playing him. Today we did not really have other options... but even Lamps should have see the light now.

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23 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

How good is Rice technically?

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quite good from all I see have seen him over the years

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quite good from all I see have seen him over the years

How much do you think he is going to cost? I read that West Ham want 70 mio pounds

 

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You all here want Barkley out but only a week ago that Lampard was praising him to the heavens...

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/lampard-first-class-barkley-dedicated-to-chelsea-cause/16mm4uppw1iaj13fn791r5d8g8

"I don’t think it is a new level for Ross. I played with him for England and against him. He has got great quality and I knew that. I think what he is doing is he is playing a very complete role," Lampard told reporters on Zoom at Stamford Bridge.

"His work rate, for instance, is great, recovering, jumping out to defend at times from midfield areas. Obviously, he always has that goal threat with his technical qualities: right and left foot, great strikes. I have seen that and Ross has been absolutely dedicated to the cause.

"In lockdown, just before lockdown against Everton and Liverpool. I am delighted with him and he just needs to keep those levels. There is more to come, there is more to come and his attitude has been first class.

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Then no sympathy if he gets sacked. Simple. 
 

Praising mediocrity.