Ross Barkley

[Vesper 30,101]

1 minute ago, King Kante said:

In an ideal world we would transplant RLC's brain into Barkley's body. 

Lampard's

Chelsea Star Frank Lampard Alleged To Have Genius IQ

https://www.goal.com/en/news/9/english-football/2009/03/05/1139982/chelsea-star-frank-lampard-alleged-to-have-genius-iq

Like the kid at school that is an outstanding achiever in all facets of life, Frank Lampard has combined weighty brain power to his playmaking, ball-pinging, goalkeeper-slaying and net-bulging form.

 

It is rare that intellectuals and footballers are paired together in the same sentence because education is sometimes over-looked in favour of honing skills at tender ages, but a Chelsea club doctor has confirmed that Frank Lampard has an IQ that could be considered genius.

A-grade magnet Lampard - who turns 31 this summer - recently took an intelligence test along with several other Blues and is believed to have recorded a score that exceeds 150.

Fellow Englishman John Terry also scored highly and was placed third, but Lampard stole top honours.

Dr English is quoted by Eurosport as saying, "John Terry was in the top three but Frank Lampard scored one of the highest sets of marks ever recorded by the company doing the tests - higher than me!"

A score of 150 would rank Lampard in the top 0.1 per cent in the country, which would be enough to secure the international a place in respected high-IQ society, Mensa.

Lampard obtained 12 GCSEs while at school in Essex and is even alleged to have secured an A* in Latin.

[King Kante 1,643]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Lampard's

Chelsea Star Frank Lampard Alleged To Have Genius IQ

https://www.goal.com/en/news/9/english-football/2009/03/05/1139982/chelsea-star-frank-lampard-alleged-to-have-genius-iq

Like the kid at school that is an outstanding achiever in all facets of life, Frank Lampard has combined weighty brain power to his playmaking, ball-pinging, goalkeeper-slaying and net-bulging form.

 

It is rare that intellectuals and footballers are paired together in the same sentence because education is sometimes over-looked in favour of honing skills at tender ages, but a Chelsea club doctor has confirmed that Frank Lampard has an IQ that could be considered genius.

A-grade magnet Lampard - who turns 31 this summer - recently took an intelligence test along with several other Blues and is believed to have recorded a score that exceeds 150.

Fellow Englishman John Terry also scored highly and was placed third, but Lampard stole top honours.

Dr English is quoted by Eurosport as saying, "John Terry was in the top three but Frank Lampard scored one of the highest sets of marks ever recorded by the company doing the tests - higher than me!"

A score of 150 would rank Lampard in the top 0.1 per cent in the country, which would be enough to secure the international a place in respected high-IQ society, Mensa.

Lampard obtained 12 GCSEs while at school in Essex and is even alleged to have secured an A* in Latin.

I do not doubt SFL has a high intelligence level. However, an IQ of 130 is regarded as genius. In fact a lot of IQ tests do not go beyond 130 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification - for those that do when you start getting to 150 you're talking astronaut level. I very much doubt SFL is at that level. 

[Vesper 30,101]

16 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I do not doubt SFL has a high intelligence level. However, an IQ of 130 is regarded as genius. In fact a lot of IQ tests do not go beyond 130 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification - for those that do when you start getting to 150 you're talking astronaut level. I very much doubt SFL is at that level. 

An IQ level of 150 (and above) is more than possible with the majority of tests.

I have never seen or taken one that stops at 130.

That doesn't mean they do not exist, but a 130 cap is definitely out of the mainstream.

Also, not every astronaut is a genius. This is a myth.

The 16 Smartest People On Earth

https://www.businessinsider.com/smartest-people-on-earth-2012-10?r=US&IR=T

 

 

[King Kante 1,643]

26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

An IQ level of 150 (and above) is more than possible with the majority of tests.

I have never seen or taken one that stops at 130.

That doesn't mean they do not exist, but a 130 cap is definitely out of the mainstream.

Also, not every astronaut is a genius. This is a myth.

The 16 Smartest People On Earth

https://www.businessinsider.com/smartest-people-on-earth-2012-10?r=US&IR=T

 

 

This is slight semantics. My point was that a 150 IQ, if done on a test that went that high, is a score that means that SFL would be of exceptional intellect. My point was that I do not doubt he is intelligent but I doubt he is as high as that as such a figure would give him an exceptional level of intelligence. If he is that high then it is a shame for humanity that he decided to focus on football. 

[Vesper 30,101]

1 minute ago, King Kante said:

This is slight semantics. My point was that a 150 IQ, if done on a test that went that high, is a score that means that SFL would be of exceptional intellect. My point was that I do not doubt he is intelligent but I doubt he is as high as that as such a figure would give him an exceptional level of intelligence. If he is that high then it is a shame for humanity that he decided to focus on football. 

Not everyone with a very high IQ is going to do something that falls into a 'working to save the world' category, or is even capable of it.

Many ultra-intelligent people are absolute sodding cunts in fact. Lamps is fine where he is at.

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

10 hours ago, King Kante said:

This is slight semantics. My point was that a 150 IQ, if done on a test that went that high, is a score that means that SFL would be of exceptional intellect. My point was that I do not doubt he is intelligent but I doubt he is as high as that as such a figure would give him an exceptional level of intelligence. If he is that high then it is a shame for humanity that he decided to focus on football. 

I dont get why.

It will take a lot more than people with higher IQs to make such a huge difference all around the world when you consider all the shit such as poverty, racism, disease, addiction, crime, lack of clean water etc that plague different parts of the world.
 

I mean lets be honest these problems are not going to be lessened or solved by one or twenty highly intelligent persons. These problems are only going to be lessened or solved if they are tackled by a large number of people, regardless of high IQ or average IQ. Even then, it is not as straight forward as that.

[King Kante 1,643]

25 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I dont get why.

It will take a lot more than people with higher IQs to make such a huge difference all around the world when you consider all the shit such as poverty, racism, disease, addiction, crime, lack of clean water etc that plague different parts of the world.
 

I mean lets be honest these problems are not going to be lessened or solved by one or twenty highly intelligent persons. These problems are only going to be lessened or solved if they are tackled by a large number of people, regardless of high IQ or average IQ. Even then, it is not as straight forward as that.

I think my posts have been taken on slightly the wrong way. My initial point was that I questioned the original articles announcement that SFL had an IQ of 150. As I pointed out, a lot of IQ test's do not go above 130 and, for those that do, it means SFL would be in the extreme end of genius since this is notmally assigned to those with an IQ above 130 (which is also why some tests do not go above that level.) Further from reading the article, it seems that they have based his on his GCSE results and not an actual IQ test which is a poor form of extrapolation. 

As for my comment about humanity, by that I meant with an intelligence of that level he would be approaching Turing/Einstein levels. I never said he would be some great healer, I meant that he would have a level of intelligence that allows him to deal with highly philosophical/mathematical/scientific problems. No where did I indicate that having a high IQ means you can solve societal problems or that you would be nice. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

13 hours ago, King Kante said:

I think my posts have been taken on slightly the wrong way. My initial point was that I questioned the original articles announcement that SFL had an IQ of 150. As I pointed out, a lot of IQ test's do not go above 130 and, for those that do, it means SFL would be in the extreme end of genius since this is notmally assigned to those with an IQ above 130 (which is also why some tests do not go above that level.) Further from reading the article, it seems that they have based his on his GCSE results and not an actual IQ test which is a poor form of extrapolation. 

As for my comment about humanity, by that I meant with an intelligence of that level he would be approaching Turing/Einstein levels. I never said he would be some great healer, I meant that he would have a level of intelligence that allows him to deal with highly philosophical/mathematical/scientific problems. No where did I indicate that having a high IQ means you can solve societal problems or that you would be nice. 

 

An IQ of above 130 places one in the 98% percentile, so not such a rare genius.

The article explicitly states that there was a company doing iq tests with the squad at the training groudn and Lampard reached a score of 150+. Nothing to do with his GCSEs. They were just anecdotally added. Also, there are plenty of corresponding reports on said incidents of the tests taken at Cobham so I have no reason to doubt that Lampard indeed had such a remarkable result on that particular test.

Further I think IQ tests project an anachronistic and limited spectrum of intelligence. Most are based on pattern recognition. But often enough the person designing the test is subject to follow a subconscious pattern by doing so. This pattern could be a lot simpler than the one being asked for in the test. Consequently a person who is just experienced in doing such tests will find them much easier.

For example, for my first job interview all applicants had to complete an IQ test with all kinds of matrices, graphics, word sequences etc, typical IQ test BS. Because I used to do them for fun as a kid, i had no problems solving the whole test easily in time while all others struggled. So, I got the job.

A friend of mine, one of the most intelligent people I know who now works as a computer scientist at a famous venture capital firm applied for the same job a few months later and somehow failed badly. Consequently he was eliminated in the first round. Simultaneously a few absolute dumbwits who had less problems with the tests were hired.

In the end, maybe the most accurate test of intelligence is how much value someone attributes to these IQ tests.

[killer1257 3,282]

Just sell him please

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[1chelsea 864]

Sell this guy out please


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[NikkiCFC 8,290]

All English players are not good enough for starting 11 tbh.

RLC from last season was fine.

[killer1257 3,282]

All English players are not good enough for starting 11 tbh.
RLC from last season was fine.

Yeah I agree. But when Ruben reaches his best again in a more offensive system, he will be a beast again.
But to be honest, apart from Azpi, Puli, Zouma and Kante, nobody is good enough either. God bless we have signed Ziyech.

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[MoroccanBlue 5,376]

The overrating of RLC is honestly ridiculous. 
 

Oxlade Chamberlain is better than him ffs. 

[Vesper 30,101]

16 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The overrating of RLC is honestly ridiculous. 
 

Oxlade Chamberlain is better than him ffs. 

I am (and have been) a member of the 'he probably is ruined for years or maybe for good due to a horrific Achilles tear' crew

same for CHO

and I called Emerson years ago

he never recovered from his horrific knee injury at Roma

we bought damaged goods

[killer1257 3,282]

I am (and have been) a member of the 'he probably is ruined for years or maybe for good due to a horrific Achilles tear' crew
same for CHO
and I called Emerson years ago
he never recovered from his horrific knee injury at Roma
we bought damaged goods

It is funny that Ruben made a sprinting test with Broja and couple of other guys and he was the fastest of them by far.
Ruben will be back. Already started with a great pass to Tammy last match, but he needs more match time. He needs more match fitness


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