Milan 17,957 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Blue Armour said: Piece of s**t Coquelin, with that horror tackle. That ex goon idiot's head must still be spinning after Hazard left him rolling on his arse a few years ago. Not to mention the antics from Paulista. I wish we had for that specific moment Diego Costa back. He would make him pay, badly. It is still shocking that there was no red card for the tackle. Absolutely shocking. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So Pedro or Willian for Liverpool. Great. Hope to God we will se Pulisic. Puly and Willy I want to see, Willian is in better form than Pedro, and Puly is more like Pedro, direct player who can be dangerous in front of goal so he compliments Willian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, El P. said: Hope to God we will se Pulisic. Puly and Willy I want to see, Willian is in better form than Pedro, and Puly is more like Pedro, direct player who can be dangerous in front of goal so he compliments Willian. You dont really wanna see Pulisic in a match like this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: You dont really wanna see Pulisic in a match like this.... You mean the Pulisic who actually did well against Liverpool last month? I know he hasn’t been great overall but why I do sense some sort of apprehension from you on Pulisic? Fernando and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Still good news that. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hannah said: Still good news that. Very good, from where I was sat I genuinely thought ACL was best case scenario. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: You dont really wanna see Pulisic in a match like this.... bollocks there is almost no way possible he would have (or could have) played worse than the turgid Pedro why the hell would we drop £57m on a player and then against a Spanish club in major turmoil, we are not even going to trust him to play? kellzfresh and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: bollocks there is almost no way possible he would have (or could have) played worse than the turgid Pedro why the hell would we drop £57m on a player and then against a Spanish club in major turmoil, we are not even going to trust him to play? From Willian, Pedro and Pulisisc, I would prefer to use Pulisic because at least he has potential and has good decision making when he is in good form. Willian is just not good enough. Pedro can be decent when he scores goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Vesper said: why the hell would we drop £57m on a player and then against a Spanish club in major turmoil, we are not even going to trust him to play? Lampard's explanation on why Pulisic didn't play yesterday was peculiar to say the least. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 18/09/2019 at 3:03 PM, Jason said: Lampard's explanation on why Pulisic didn't play yesterday was peculiar to say the least. What was his explanation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Henrique said: What was his explanation? Said he used Pedro because of his CL experience, which is ironic considering he started 3 players without any CL experience to begin with. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: Said he used Pedro because of his CL experience, which is ironic considering he started 3 players without any CL experience to begin with. Odd... And hasn’t pulisic played cL already? pedro was really bad, it he was coming back from injury, so hope he improves from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Robchels said: Odd... And hasn’t pulisic played cL already? Has played 22 CL games or around there, which is more than Mount, Abraham and Tomori combined. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: Said he used Pedro because of his CL experience, which is ironic considering he started 3 players without any CL experience to begin with. I think the real reason is his performances haven't been good enough and Lampard is covering for him in the media. I wanted him to come on purely because of the fact Willy and Pedro on together is an eyesore but I can certainly see why Pulisic has been taken out of the firing line. I have high hopes for him long term but apart from vs Liverpool (and Salzburg if we extend our assessment to pre season) he's been as raw as you can get so far and needs easing into things. communicate and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Tomo said: I think the real reason is his performances haven't been good enough and Lampard is covering for him in the media. I wanted him to come on purely because of the fact Willy and Pedro on together is an eyesore but I can certainly see why Pulisic has been taken out of the firing line. I have high hopes for him long term but apart from vs Liverpool (and Salzburg if we extend our assessment to pre season) he's been as raw as you can get so far and needs easing into things. If Lampard was covering for Pulisic, at least use the "it's a tactical decision" excuse or something along those lines. By saying it's a case of experience, he practically contradicted himself when he says he trusts the young players and then has people raising their eyebrow when they see Mount, Abraham and Tomori all started despite having no CL experience. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panic 57 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jason said: If Lampard is covering for Pulisic, at least use the "it's a tactical decision" excuse or something along those lines. By saying it's a case of experience, he practically contradicted himself when he says he trusts the young players and then has people raising their eyebrow when they see Mount, Abraham and Tomori all started despite having no CL experience. Lampard's reasoning in this scenario isn't necessarily contradictory. In the case of Mount and Abraham, he clearly believes they are better players than the alternatives. With Tomori, there isn't another fit CB to play in his position. If Lampard believes Pulisic and Pedro are both equally good, then it would make sense to go with the more experienced player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Panic said: Lampard's reasoning in this scenario isn't necessarily contradictory. In the case of Mount and Abraham, he clearly believes they are better players than the alternatives. With Tomori, there isn't another fit CB to play in his position. If Lampard believes Pulisic and Pedro are both equally good, then it would make sense to go with the more experienced player. Using the experience factor in one scenario and then turn a blind eye on it in another sounds very contradicting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panic 57 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jason said: Using the experience factor in one scenario and then turn a blind eye on it in another sounds very contradicting. But it's not. Lampard's job is to play the best team possible for any given match. Who plays will be influenced by a variety of factors, but it's pretty safe to assume that individual skill plays a huge role in Lampard's decision making. In the case of Mount, it appears that Lampard believes that Mount is the best player available. The result? Mount plays. Now let's consider the case of Pedro or Pulisic replacing an injured Mount. If Lampard believes that Pulsic and Pedro are equal in ability, he has to use another factor to make his decision. In this scenario, it was experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, Panic said: But it's not. Lampard's job is to play the best team possible for any given match. Who plays will be influenced by a variety of factors, but it's pretty safe to assume that individual skill plays a huge role in Lampard's decision making. In the case of Mount, it appears that Lampard believes that Mount is the best player available. The result? Mount plays. Now let's consider the case of Pedro or Pulisic replacing an injured Mount. If Lampard believes that Pulsic and Pedro are equal in ability, he has to use another factor to make his decision. In this scenario, it was experience. Not true. Match management involves the whole season, hence why there is rotation. Games are not equal nor are player form and fitness over a long season. They may think pulisic needs time to settle to the tempo of the pl or perhaps even improve physically, who knows? franks message is the odd part, given pulisic has plenty of CL experience and would have been comfortable with Valencia slow tempo. i guess is just another case of frank also learning on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, Panic said: But it's not. Lampard's job is to play the best team possible for any given match. Who plays will be influenced by a variety of factors, but it's pretty safe to assume that individual skill plays a huge role in Lampard's decision making. In the case of Mount, it appears that Lampard believes that Mount is the best player available. The result? Mount plays. Now let's consider the case of Pedro or Pulisic replacing an injured Mount. If Lampard believes that Pulsic and Pedro are equal in ability, he has to use another factor to make his decision. In this scenario, it was experience. So all that trusting the young players talk only applies to Mount, Abraham and Tomori then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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