The Skipper 20,593 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Btw, think it’s actually fair to say that we’ve downgraded in almost every apartment bar CB and GK this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 27,429 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just now, Laylabelle said: Everyone has gone shite at the same time. We didn't upgrade anyone either just brought back up or from looks worse. You do not risk they go shite you simply upgrade with much better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,347 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Mourinho will be laughing when he watch this game. Roma didn't even need to be at their best. We made the mistakes and they punished us emphatically. He'll just have to wait for us to self implode and win on Sunday. The scary thing is...Mourinho won't even need to set up defensively for the match against us. If I was Martial/Rashford/Miki, I'd be licking my lips for Sunday...Alonso/Zappa/Azpi are in for a long day at the office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,504 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Like I wrote elsewhere, some players were really poor today, but it was a terrible starting XI to play Roma in Italy. Really bizarre to see Fabregas in a 2-men mid... got overrun as expected. Why doesn't Christensen play -- he's, along with Azpi, the best defender in the squad. If Drinkwater and Kante aren't fit play Luiz in midfield! No not optimal, but that's the circumstance. Can we have a "no one" option in the poll? Despite his efforts, I just can't vote for Hazard because the finishing just wasn't there (by a long shot). I guess Azpi and Cahill had OK games compared to the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just fucking woeful and the jury has come back and it's verdict is Morata is fucking hopeless and has the presence and strength of a fart in a hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,351 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just now, Special Juan said: You do not risk they go shite you simply upgrade with much better players. Expect surprise surprise we didn't..even though signs were there last season and more games this time. That's what's so frustrating it's so predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 27,429 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Iggy Doonican said: Just fucking woeful and the jury has come back and it's verdict is Morata is fucking hopeless and has the presence and strength of a fart in a hurricane. Waisted all his energy making comments about London and then back tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just now, Special Juan said: Waisted all his energy making comments about London and then back tracking. Will be sold on at a fucking huge loss unless he grows a pair and mans up. He doesn't scare defenders like Costa did, and hasn't the physical presence to be a lone striker. I fear he will struggle in the league and he looks worn out already !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Why am I seeing specific players being criticised after a performance like that: EVERYONE was terrible except for Hazard. EVERYONE. Regardless of the grievances that Conte may have with our board regarding transfer dealings, he HAS to display a bit more imagination and flexibility when it comes to setting the team up without important personnel. Much easier said (by the likes of me) than done, of course, but these HAVE to be the situations in which the better managers show what they're really made of. It's been pretty evident that a back three (either 3-4-3 or 3-5-2) doesn't work for us without Kante, so why persist with such a system? Playing 4-3-3 with Luiz-Bakayoko/Fabregas-Drinkwater was surely worth a try in this game, for example. It surely couldn't be worse than a midfield two of Bakayoko and Fabregas, two players who posses certain valuable characteristics but are clearly spectacularly incompatible at present. Alonso is hideously out-of-form at the moment as well: this happens to every player at some point, but you can't therefore shrug your shoulders and let it slide for over a month; not when our other starting WB is out injured over the same period of time. Conte should have been able to find an alternative that works with the personnel available to him, and on this occasion he has failed. Hopefully he learns from this. (And hopefully Kante's impending return allows us to rediscover some semblance of stability and consistency, playing three at the back or otherwise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just thinking that an X-rated performance like that should be uploaded to Pornhub !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 27,429 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Starman60 said: Will be sold on at a fucking huge loss unless he grows a pair and mans up. He doesn't scare defenders like Costa did, and hasn't the physical presence to be a lone striker. I fear he will struggle in the league and he looks worn out already !!!! Mentally worn out for me, broken and it's dead simple....You, or anyone else doesn't want to be here.....FUCK OFF. Pull on the shirt and drive yourself into the ground, if not then do not bother showing up...oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Pull on the shirt and drive yourself into the ground, Only one player has done that for us in a while now..........Kante.....Without him we're fucked. The rest just pick up their 100 grand a week, fuck the bonus's for winning, we can live without them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Well, I didn't expect much from this bunch this season. But that was just terrible. We can comment on midfield, wingbacks, strikers, etc etc, but let's face it - our central defenders aren't very good either. Being that Christensen, Rudiger, Luiz or I don't know. You know, if they were very good, we wouldn't need three of them (considering the need of our squad to play with more midfielders/attackers to gain more control). There is no part of the team that doesn't require upgrading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Scary thing about this result and performance is that I'm not even overly pissed. Slightly yes but it feels like it has become something of a norm for us to play as badly as we did and lose in such games. Somebody needs to answer why whenever we have lost under Conte, we always lost badly? Always played like a clueless team, a team devoid of any spark, desire, determination. Only defeat which we didn't deserve was the Palace home game last season. Otherwise, every other defeat has been pathetic one way or another - Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Burnley, United in the league, Arsenal in FA Cup, Roma in the Champions League etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Sooooooooo.... bye bye Hazard then? Don't think I'm going to watch this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Last time we played luiz in midfield and it was a mistake and now people asked why fab n baka in midfield. Last year even when we were in flying form we look so vurnerable when fab play even when Kante is playing, that is not new especially in big game. I have no solution. We just simply need drinkwater and kante to get fit fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, WNDS said: It's been pretty evident that a back three (either 3-4-3 or 3-5-2) doesn't work for us without Kante, so why persist with such a system? Playing 4-3-3 with Luiz-Bakayoko/Fabregas-Drinkwater was surely worth a try in this game, for example. It surely couldn't be worse than a midfield two of Bakayoko and Fabregas, two players who posses certain valuable characteristics but are clearly spectacularly incompatible at present. Alonso is hideously out-of-form at the moment as well: this happens to every player at some point, but you can't therefore shrug your shoulders and let it slide for over a month; not when our other starting WB is out injured over the same period of time. Did you watch our home game when we played luiz in midfield ? we struggled with luiz in midfield. We also struggled playing back 3 last season with kante in midfield as long as fab is starting.I don't get how switching to back 4 will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,323 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I see Roma going places this year. But is Roma the ultimate heights of this champions league ? What about Barca-PSG-Juve, also Bayern-Real (even though they seem to be faltering a little those two) ? We seem to be some light years away, a Wenger-like presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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