Marcos Alonso

[Special Juan 27,429]

He's about a solution to our problems as I am to staying fucking sober this Xmas.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

We can't sell him without getting a replacement tho or else when Emerson gets injured again we'll have exactly two fullbacks, both naturally right backs, available.

Or would the board be recalling Maatsen

[Special Juan 27,429]

He won't be sold this window, he will still be here and Emerson will be first choice. 

He's just rubbish, and come the summer he has to go, Emerson moving up and a top class LB brought in.

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2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

He won't be sold this window, he will still be here and Emerson will be first choice. 

He's just rubbish, and come the summer he has to go, Emerson moving up and a top class LB brought in.

[Nicco 927]

Dunno why he was side lined completely, he was shit but still offered the odd x factor in attack.

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

No Alonso no party. 

[Jase 43,479]

I see we're at the point where marginalized players are suddenly being made better than they are...

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Just now, Jason said:

I see we're at the point where marginalized players are suddenly being made better than they are...

I don't think Alonso have any fans here but it's interesting to see our percentage of wins with and without him in the team especially in the PL since he didn't start any of our 6 defeats and 2 draws. 

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4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I don't think Alonso have any fans here but it's interesting to see our percentage of wins with and without him in the team especially in the PL since he didn't start any of our 6 defeats and 2 draws. 

Stats don't tell the whole story, do they? 

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

I see we're at the point where marginalized players are suddenly being made better than they are...

Frank surely could have used some of the squad players more especially after certain performances from regulars who have underperformed? Not just Alonso. Pedro, Giroud, Barkley etc. Worth remembering Sarri and Conte got the same things said about them too. We have a lot of players, if players underperform in a few games in a row why shouldnt he change them?

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5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Frank surely could have used some of the squad players more especially after certain performances from regulars who have underperformed? Not just Alonso. Pedro, Giroud, Barkley etc. Worth remembering Sarri and Conte got the same things said about them too. We have a lot of players, if players underperform in a few games in a row why shouldnt he change them?

Barkley is a lost cause, IMO. He had his chances earlier this season but hardly made any impression and then had the incidents with the cab driver and at the night club. Alonso also had his chances but I guess his defensive flaws have proved too much of a problem for Lampard's liking and not to mention, he is SUPER SLOW! Agree on Pedro and Giroud - the former's situation is a curious one. He actually started the season well but suffered an injury and suddenly just disappeared altogether. 

On the bigger picture, it highlights AGAIN that we don't have the best of squad depths in terms of quality. It's 3 managers now who have not been keen on Giroud/Barkley/Pedro/Alonso. 

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

It's 3 managers now who have not been keen on Giroud/Barkley/Pedro/Alonso. 

so depressing, I must admit

it is shocking that Alonso is still around

refusing £45m for hm from RM and then renewing him on top of that was a double wall-meet-head moment for me

that motherfucker Sarri with his gaslighting 'best LB in Europe' bullshit

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8 hours ago, Jason said:

Barkley is a lost cause, IMO. He had his chances earlier this season but hardly made any impression and then had the incidents with the cab driver and at the night club. Alonso also had his chances but I guess his defensive flaws have proved too much of a problem for Lampard's liking and not to mention, he is SUPER SLOW! Agree on Pedro and Giroud - the former's situation is a curious one. He actually started the season well but suffered an injury and suddenly just disappeared altogether. 

On the bigger picture, it highlights AGAIN that we don't have the best of squad depths in terms of quality. It's 3 managers now who have not been keen on Giroud/Barkley/Pedro/Alonso. 

 3 managers have not been keen on Giroud, Pedro and alonso? They are quite regular under Conte and Sarri 

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3 hours ago, communicate said:

 3 managers have not been keen on Giroud, Pedro and alonso? They are quite regular under Conte and Sarri 

Was talking about all 4 as whole and 'being regular' under Sarri & Conte doesn't necessarily mean they were keen.

Alonso - Remember Conte wanted Sandro from Juventus? Conte stuck with Alonso anyway because of the back 3 system and Emerson spent most of the 2017/18 season coming back from his injury. Sarri spent most of his season praising Alonso to the heavens but towards the end, he started leaning towards Emerson.

Giroud - IIRC, Conte didn't want Giroud. He wanted Llorente but didn't get him and was left to make do with Giroud. The only competition Giroud regularly featured in was last season's Europa League. Otherwise, he was always in and out of the XI. Take the Premier League for example, he played only 1443 minutes in 18 months with us. Higuain joined last January and played 1092 minutes in the league in just 6 months. That's a difference of only 351 minutes = close to 4 games. 

Pedro - I'll give you this one but he was rotated with Willian under both managers. Between the two, Pedro played almost a thousand minutes less than Willian - 5608 minutes to the latter's 6568 minutes in all competitions. 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Was talking about all 4 as whole and 'being regular' under Sarri & Conte doesn't necessarily mean they were keen.

Alonso - Remember Conte wanted Sandro from Juventus? Conte stuck with Alonso anyway because of the back 3 system and Emerson spent most of the 2017/18 season coming back from his injury. Sarri spent most of his season praising Alonso to the heavens but towards the end, he started leaning towards Emerson.

Giroud - IIRC, Conte didn't want Giroud. He wanted Llorente but didn't get him and was left to make do with Giroud. The only competition Giroud regularly featured in was last season's Europa League. Otherwise, he was always in and out of the XI. Take the Premier League for example, he played only 1443 minutes in 18 months with us. Higuain joined last January and played 1092 minutes in the league in just 6 months. That's a difference of only 351 minutes = close to 4 games. 

Pedro - I'll give you this one but he was rotated with Willian under both managers. Between the two, Pedro played almost a thousand minutes less than Willian - 5608 minutes to the latter's 6568 minutes in all competitions. 

What you are saying is that they are not nailed down starter, they are not exactly top level but they are part of our key rotation. This season they are simply not part of rotation. 

IMO purely from the quality that they can bring to football field , I can see many reason why they should be part of our plan this season. But for me it doesn't really matter. If they are not part of the plan, that is fine, as long as no more west ham where suddenly Giroud and Pedro start. 

 

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22 minutes ago, communicate said:

What you are saying is that they are not nailed down starter, they are not exactly top level but they are part of our key rotation. This season they are simply not part of rotation. 

IMO purely from the quality that they can bring to football field , I can see many reason why they should be part of our plan this season. But for me it doesn't really matter. If they are not part of the plan, that is fine, as long as no more west ham where suddenly Giroud and Pedro start. 

What I'm saying is Conte and Sarri weren't happy with the quality of the squad depth. They just had to make do with it. The fact that our 3rd manager in a row is doing the same highlights the issue even further. Sure, you could argue that Lampard could and should have utilized Giroud and Pedro a tad more to begin with but I guess with the younger players coming in and Lampard having his own ideas, we decided to move them aside. At least this situation will really force the board's hands in the transfer window. 

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5 hours ago, Jason said:

What I'm saying is Conte and Sarri weren't happy with the quality of the squad depth. They just had to make do with it. The fact that our 3rd manager in a row is doing the same highlights the issue even further. Sure, you could argue that Lampard could and should have utilized Giroud and Pedro a tad more to begin with but I guess with the younger players coming in and Lampard having his own ideas, we decided to move them aside. At least this situation will really force the board's hands in the transfer window. 

I don't think Sarri or Conte were unhappy with Pedro, Alonso or Giroud. Barkley is whole another storey but let's leave him be. Pedro is an absolutely fantastic role player, score goals, make tons of run behind, stable defensively, press hard. Giroud is arguably one of the best target man in Europe. Not many player has better link up play. Alonso may not be everyone cup of tea, but he offer height in both boxes, goal threat, passing. Offer far more than Emerson offensively. I don't hear Sarri or Conte wanting to move any of them. 

For me transfer market these days is really2 difficult especially with the inflated price. Yes sometimes you can find bargain like with pool with Robertson but most of the time it is 50m a player. I am just being realistic, we are not city who can spend 50/60 m on bench player, so it is important to find the right player.

 

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