Marcos Alonso

[Vesper 28,879]

6 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

It's my assessment that it's not just Alonso that's poor the whole fucking team is apart from Hazard.

Our 2nd half display against manure just confirmed to me we're a one man team, the rest are just average at best, god forbid Hazard gets injured we've got no one with any flair or imagination.

The whole fucking lot of them need a overhaul.

In with a chance of the league title the pundits say, don't make me laugh! we're going to struggle the even finish 4th with this lot, so don't apportion all the blame on Alonso.

To be fair, Kepa, Rudiger, Jorginho, Kovavcic, and part-timers Barkley and Pedro have been pretty good, especially the first 3. Kante and Azpi have dropped off from last 3-4 years levels (although in Kante's case it is due to his struggling with a new role). The rest, absolutely I agree are either just not good enough or are playing poorly, or are simply too old. It is a massive issue, papered over by a really good start (we have been really lucky in a number of games where teams have missed multiple sitters).

We desperately need to go after Icardi (it is going to come down to us and RM), Dybala or maybe Piatek at striker, and also a truly impactful RW, with Bailey, Bernardeschi, Malcom (who is not all happy at Barca, as predicted), Christian Pulisic, Hirving Lozano, Suso, and David Neres being the best options, in that order.

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

I agree with you totally, I want immediate response from Sarri, this is the wrong forum for this subject I know but got to start somewhere

FFS when fit put Ampadu in to replace Luiz, and get rid of Pedro and Willian and play Odoi on the right, i'm not sure about this 4-3-3 either I want the wee man back to his best position DMF, I say fuck it go 4-2-3-1

Kepa

Dave Ampadu Rudi Emerson

Wee Man Jorginho

Hazard Barkley Odoi

Giroud

I know we're still a team in transmission, but fucking hell come up against any one half decent at present and we're lost,

[Vesper 28,879]

3 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

I agree with you totally, I want immediate response from Sarri, this is the wrong forum for this subject I know but got to start somewhere

FFS when fit put Ampadu in to replace Luiz, and get rid of Pedro and Willian and play Odoi on the right, i'm not sure about this 4-3-3 either I want the wee man back to his best position DMF, I say fuck it go 4-2-3-1

Kepa

Dave Ampadu Rudi Emerson

Wee Man Jorginho

Hazard Barkley Odoi

Giroud

I know we're still a team in transmission, but fucking hell come up against any one half decent and we're lost,

Main issue with that is that Sarri will not change his system for shit. He is very stubborn that way. We either believe in him and it, and buy him players who fit in it or we start to prepare for the inevitable sacking when/if the wheels come off due injuries (probably caused by poor rotation/tired players), too many square pegs/round holes (Kante perhaps, plus Alonso, etc) big players/young prospects leaving (Hazard, CHO, RLC, AC, etc) and/or too many shit players/refusal to sell donkies (Morata, Drinkwater, Willian, Bakayoko, Moses etc etc etc).

I deal with medium to long term even horizons, not a game at a time. Game at a time thinking will quickly get us in serious trouble and also cashier our future.

[manpe 10,861]

29 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

I agree with you totally, I want immediate response from Sarri, this is the wrong forum for this subject I know but got to start somewhere

FFS when fit put Ampadu in to replace Luiz, and get rid of Pedro and Willian and play Odoi on the right, i'm not sure about this 4-3-3 either I want the wee man back to his best position DMF, I say fuck it go 4-2-3-1

Kepa

Dave Ampadu Rudi Emerson

Wee Man Jorginho

Hazard Barkley Odoi

Giroud

I know we're still a team in transmission, but fucking hell come up against any one half decent at present and we're lost,

I get the impression that Sarri is like our previous managers when it comes to changing formations, very rigid about it. It can be a big plus, because the team will master playing in that formation, but it can also become a hindrance when teams adapt to your new style better and more games will require changing things around. Pep is a good example of how you can change things and still have the team playing brilliantly.

[Fulham Broadway 16,869]

Watching this Juve game, this Sandro fella would be an excellent replacement

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16 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Watching this Juve game, this Sandro fella would be an excellent replacement

Lolol (and crying, especially when adding in my other extreme Sarriball want fullback, RB Cancelo)

3 years plus of trying for Sandro, 3 years of Italian ass fucking to show for it.

Not even a box of chocolates for conciliation. 

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

16 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Watching this Juve game, this Sandro fella would be an excellent replacement

Aint Juve playing Sarriball well, or should i say properly

[Fulham Broadway 16,869]

1 minute ago, bigbluewillie said:

Aint Juve playing Sarriball well, or should i say properly

Yeah, they seem to have it off to a tee, with an actual striker and Allegri seems to have weened Cuadrado of the crystal meth too

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Stats 7,056]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Couple weeks ago... all comments would have been that it is truly deserved. On the back of a bad game: "he is stealing a living".

Yes, he has his flaws but highly deserved and regardless of what people say, he has been a huge success here and Sarri rates him very highly.

Keep up the good work Alonso!

[Vesper 28,879]

24 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Jesus fucking christ.

We are so fucked.

Next will be the Willian and Luiz extensions. 

Can't wait to hear the status quo/settle crew comments full of praise on those.

My stance will be proven to be correct. That is not cockiness, that is not playa hating, it is reality. 

A non top 4 finish this year basically destroys the club on terms of WC footie for multiple years (Hazard will surely leave as well) unless we are sold to an owner who puts real football people in charge, not Sibneft mafia draw-downers.

Just shocked that more do not see this lipstick-on-a-pig modus operandi. 

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53 minutes ago, Stats said:

Couple weeks ago... all comments would have been that it is truly deserved. On the back of a bad game: "he is stealing a living".

Yes, he has his flaws but highly deserved and regardless of what people say, he has been a huge success here and Sarri rates him very highly.

Keep up the good work Alonso!

Sure, Alonso has been great over the last 2 years but does that really warrant a new contract, especially when his current one only expires in 2021? Does he really deserve one this fast with him looking nowhere near solid/good enough for Sarri's football? Alonso has his flaws but so does every player and Alonso's are pretty big - he's slow, he can't beat his man 1 v 1, defensively suspect and if he doesn't contribute goals, what really does he contribute to the team? I find it hard to believe that Sarri would want someone like Alonso in his starting XI to be playing his kind of football. If it was Pep, he would have sold Alonso straight away! All the other top sides have quick, mobile, agile full backs while we seem to be obsess with having slow ones! Also, it's easy to throw around the argument "the manager rates him, so he's good" but we all know managers have their favorites or will turn a blind eye towards certain players even if their flaws hinder the team. Remember Mourinho's love in with Ivanovic? And what if Sarri only plays Alonso because he doesn't rate Emerson, for whatever reason, and there's no other option?

[Fulham Broadway 16,869]

55 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Jesus fucking christ.

We are so fucked.

Next will be the Willian and Luiz extensions. 

Can't wait to hear the status quo/settle crew comments full of praise on those.

My stance will be proven to be correct. That is not cockiness, that is not playa hating, it is reality. 

A non top 4 finish this year basically destroys the club on terms of WC footie for multiple years (Hazard will surely leave as well) unless we are sold to an owner who puts real football people in charge, not Sibneft mafia draw-downers.

Just shocked that more do not see this lipstick-on-a-pig modus operandi. 

Just to end on a positive, we're unbeaten this season,

so it aint all bad...

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 16,869]

The contract extension adds nothing to his determined playing time at Chelsea -it just means he's got a shrewd 15 per center agent.

[the wes 7,212]

Marcos Alonso has signed a new contract at Chelsea that keeps him at Stamford Bridge until June 2023, sources have told ESPN FC.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/chelsea/story/3676700/marcos-alonso-signs-new-chelsea-deal-to-stay-at-club-through-2023-sources

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2 hours ago, Jason said:

Sure, Alonso has been great over the last 2 years but does that really warrant a new contract, especially when his current one only expires in 2021? Does he really deserve one this fast with him looking nowhere near solid/good enough for Sarri's football? Alonso has his flaws but so does every player and Alonso's are pretty big - he's slow, he can't beat his man 1 v 1, defensively suspect and if he doesn't contribute goals, what really does he contribute to the team? I find it hard to believe that Sarri would want someone like Alonso in his starting XI to be playing his kind of football. If it was Pep, he would have sold Alonso straight away! All the other top sides have quick, mobile, agile full backs while we seem to be obsess with having slow ones! Also, it's easy to throw around the argument "the manager rates him, so he's good" but we all know managers have their favorites or will turn a blind eye towards certain players even if their flaws hinder the team. Remember Mourinho's love in with Ivanovic? And what if Sarri only plays Alonso because he doesn't rate Emerson, for whatever reason, and there's no other option?

We have a slow LB, however he is very intelligent and making forward runs. A huge bonus for any attacking manager, He gets opportunities virtually every match. Also Sarri already said few weeks ago that he believes Alonso is "maybe the best LB in Europe". He also said that if he improves the defensive aspect he could be the best LB in the world. That is obviously the words of a manager who rates him really highly. His attacking qualities are fine. He is slow as stated but is a constant menace for opposition teams when he goes forward. It is such a huge bonus if your FB is a threat going forward which Alonso is. TBH, I did not actually know his contract expired in 2021 before signing the new one but yeah, I just find it odd, the way fans have suddenly started slating him again, when for majority of this season, he has a solid season.

[coolhead23 1,146]

21 hours ago, manpe said:

Excels in the final 3rd is a gross exaggeration, he doesn't. Do you think he'd be clinical when he'd be specifically marked by several defenders and he doesn't have the luxury to be the odd man in the box coming from deep left?

Well ... right now I will surely take him over Morata for sure in the said position... My baseline is Morata and I'm sure he would be better than him in all the dept. 

And its obvious that it is not going to happen, it's frustration coming out. So relax, mate ... Let not get into deep analysis

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

If anybody doesn't think his new contract is deserved then I don't know what to say.

Absolutely crucial in Conte's first season (the system won us the league and Marcos and Victor were huge components in making it work) and has chipped in with some big goals since coming here. Sure he's not really fast, defensively the best, offensively the best or whatever but in his seasons here he has been one of our better players and that is the truth. Also has had a really good goal and assists output as well as have been pretty consistent in performances can't remember him having a really bad game at all.

The interest from Real Madrid/Barcelona must have been genuine and regular international call ups probably gave more incentive to the club, along with his performances to renew his deal.