robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 hours ago, manpe said: I wouldn't call aerial contribution tertiary for a WB, rather secondary. It doesn't cover Azpi, because if the ball comes to Azpi's zone there is nothing a player playing on the other side can do. It balances the defensive line, yes. And I feel you are giving too little credit to Azpi, he's better in the air than his height suggests, I think he easily wins over half of his headers thanks to superior positioning and strength (f.ex. Lukaku was absolutely his bitch on 2nd floor). I'm not worried about Azpi's aerial play at all, but I sometimes am worried about Alonso's lack of speed and ability to recover for example. I don't disagree that he is "pretty good", our team as a whole is pretty good. But I want us to aim for very good, and that starts with reducing the roles of pretty good players. In set-pieces, Alonso plays fairly centralized, presumably to balance out our defense. No, I think Azpi is a terrific defender and "decent" in the air (for his height), but if I am Giroud and need to attack one of our CB aerially, I know which one I'd pick. Lukaku is really not a good example... We just disagree on the pretty good, as I think Alonso is good to very good on his day. Reckon we just should upgrade in other areas first, as there are far deeper weaknesses in other areas of the pitch. And more important ones too. Even though I don't share the view that Eden is a victim of the overall poor quality of the squad (esp attack), I will daresay he was happier when Oscar was around, yes even with all his limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Didnt even play midweek yet look tired, slow and was just awful. kellzfresh and ja1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 20, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Polo7 said: Didnt even play midweek yet look tired, slow and was just awful. He's just a slow slow player. His goals hide the fact that he's painfully average as a wingback in this system. ja1, El P., kellzfresh and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: He's just a slow slow player. His goals hide the fact that he's painfully average as a wingback in this system. He is already slow to begin with and when he's not mentally on it, he is even slower and dare I say, shittier. ja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Terrible today, and on a bad day Alonso really creates a lot of defensive vulnerability. Can’t believe he was getting roasted by Schelotto on that left hand side. Emerson can’t come through soon enough. bigbluewillie and ja1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 We all know Marcos isn't that great at defending.. and I mean he's also not some god going forward. But I really really like him because of his attitude and character. Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 We've won 4-0 in 3 away games this season and Alonso was awful in 2 of them. What's up with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 He has no mobility. It's as simple as that and completely unacceptable at this level. kellzfresh and ja1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, yuvala said: We all know Marcos isn't that great at defending.. and I mean he's also not some god going forward. But I really really like him because of his attitude and character. Have to say I miss the likability factor Alonso seems to have with others, due to his well known past mistakes. Moses on other hand, with his story, for me makes him a bit likable. Slightly ironic because I'd say other supporters are less endeared to him. The Skipper, Sir Mikel OBE and manpe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, ja1 said: Have to say I miss the likability factor Alonso seems to have with others, due to his well known past mistakes. Moses on other hand, with his story, for me makes him a bit likable. Slightly ironic because I'd say other supporters are less endeared to him. I think for me atleast its just because he has SOME sort of a character. I love seeing his passion and commitment.. I think its always good to have players with strong characters even when it might not be the "perfect person" sort of personality (I really liked Costa for an example even though many on here didn't). That's not to say Moses doesn't have a character, he might just not show it. ja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On January 20, 2018 at 8:20 AM, ja1 said: Have to say I miss the likability factor Alonso seems to have with others, due to his well known past mistakes. Moses on other hand, with his story, for me makes him a bit likable. Slightly ironic because I'd say other supporters are less endeared to him. He's not likable at all honestly. Especially to anybody who has ever lost a loved one because of a drunk driving dickhead. He shows up with some goals, but liking?Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just watched the highlights again, when he loses possession or is caught out of position he runs back like a pissed camel. kellzfresh and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 he's absolute wank , slower than terry. but im sure conte will wait about 4 months before giving the new guy a shot the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, lucio said: he's absolute wank , slower than terry. but im sure conte will wait about 4 months before giving the new guy a shot The sad thing is that Moses is even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 And here goes your Marcos Alonso. Without a goal to hide it, he is just a very very average football player. lucio, Irakozium257 and ja1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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