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Man of the Match  

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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Courtois
      0
    • Ivanovic
      0
    • Cahill
      1
    • Terry
      0
    • Azpilicueta
      0
    • Kante
      8
    • Matic
      0
    • Oscar
      0
    • Willian
      0
    • Hazard
      1
    • Costa
      39
    • Fabregas (sub)
      0
    • Moses (sub)
      0
    • Batshuayi (sub)
      0
    • Andre Marriner
      8


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Some thoughts...

1. Why do we always seem to turn matches into a war, even when there's no rivalry involved? When you're away from home, you're supposed to silent the home fans, not rile them up and in turn, motivate their side!

2. Cannot trust this defence at all. Conte can work on them for ages but there's always going to be a mistake in them. Never mind we left ourselves so open for their first goal, the second was just diabolical. Why the hell did Cahill even attempt to control the ball knowing well there's a Swansea player close by? Complacency and utter stupidity. At this point, I'm not even sure if I should be happy or banging my head onto the wall because we have Luiz.

3. We dominate a lot of matches. Score one goal. Can't kill team off. Make mistake(s). End up dropping points. Rinse and repeat.

4. Does Conte actually trust the players? Again, he waited till the final 10-15 minutes to make changes. Does he expect them to work miracles every single time?! And that Batshuayi sub 2-3 minutes from time was just taking the piss really.

5. Here's a fun fact - in 6 PL visits to Swansea, we have won just twice and guess who's the manager for both of those matches...

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15 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Most of those chances were related with Fabregas replacing Matic.

....which was a substitution. Not understanding your point that Conte's subs made no difference.... 

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These stupid mistakes should not be made...that is what cost us last season...It is like we have these 5 minutes period where our players lose their heads...Courtois has world class talent still he is always uncertain in some situations..he needs to have some confidence in his abilities...I am always nervous when Cahill has the ball..He always complicates a simple situation...

Overall a Draw is not bad...but should have won the game with the amount of chances we created..need to be clinical in the final third and should remove silly defensive mistakes from our game

 

 

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A very weird game for a whole host of reasons;  I found it particularly strange how the performance-levels of almost EVERY individual player fluctuated wildly between poor and very good across different phases of the game.

And I just have to laugh at those above once more calling-out their favourite players to criticise, even though few of them had much of anything to do with us dropping points today. Individuals lost composure at key moments, and aside from this there seemed to be very little wrong with our general play: Costa missed what should have been a nailed-on chance to kill Swansea off at the end of the first-half; Azpilicueta possibly shouldn't have rushed out onto the right when Swansea counter-attacked us in the lead-up to the penalty, Courtois shouldn't have committed to Sigurdsson; Cahill should have offloaded the ball to Courtois as soon as Fer closed him down. Sure, there were a few of these 'should have/shouldn't have' errors, but were we being dominated in the centre of the pitch like last season? Were we failing to mount coherent attacks? Did we look clueless in possession? Was our pressing poorly organised? The answer I would give to each of these questions is 'no'. So why are so many people throwing their toys out of the pram? We all knew that this process of recovery wasn't going to be complete after just two months, but the early signs are very positive.

Appropriate changes could be made to the starting 11 in upcoming games, but I see no reason to go crazy and rip the developing blueprint apart just because of today's match. The only real concerns I have are Matic's impotence when the team is attacking (although I though he was mostly very good in the first-half), Courtois' poor decision-making when exposed, and Cahill's general nervousness. I see very little wrong with our patterns of play or general system at the moment.

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5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Some thoughts...

1. Why do we always seem to turn matches into a war, even when there's no rivalry involved? When you're away from home, you're supposed to silent the home fans, not rile them up and in turn, motivate their side!

2. Cannot trust this defence at all. Conte can work on them for ages but there's always going to be a mistake in them. Never mind we left ourselves so open for their first goal, the second was just diabolical. Why the hell did Cahill even attempt to control the ball knowing well there's a Swansea player close by? Complacency and utter stupidity. At this point, I'm not even sure if I should be happy or banging my head onto the wall because we have Luiz.

3. We dominate a lot of matches. Score one goal. Can't kill team off. Make mistake(s). End up dropping points. Rinse and repeat.

4. Does Conte actually trust the players? Again, he waited till the final 10-15 minutes to make changes. Does he expect them to work miracles every single time?! And that Batshuayi sub 2-3 minutes from time was just taking the piss really.

5. Here's a fun fact - in 6 PL visits to Swansea, we have won just twice and guess who's the manager for both of those matches...

1. You're right mate! I don't know why we are doing this every away game.

2. I think you should give Conte some time to work on this. We got a great centre-back with JT who leads our defence. Bring Luiz on maybe and we got it.

3. Totally agree! Same old problem.

4. That last minute Batshuayi change was ridicilous and makes no sense. He cant influence the game with just two min to go. Dont know what he thought there.

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Honestly am not as down after this 2-2 draw as any from last year. Thought overall, team played well and certainly well enough to win. Kante is a beast and Costa is heart and soul for this club most of the time.

Except for the 5 minute stretch of poor play from Courtois and the ref, we win. It's that simple. Cahill had each leg swept out from under him and no call. Unbelievable. Courtois never looks comfortable and I am not confident with him on long balls in or ones he chases. He takes the wrong path to the ball and panics a lot. He is not Petr Cech. Not yet any way.

Conte seemed VERY disappointed in the post match interview. Really emphasized the need to kill the game off up 1-0. I have zero doubt this will be stressed from here on out. I think all of us that watch every game and post here would agree, this is something we have been missing the past several years. We couldn't kill games off consistently in 2015 when we won the league. 

Heads up mates. Big one at the Bridge Friday. Need all three points. 

Come on you Chelsea!!

 

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We're not dominating matches this season unless there are lineup changes or possibly some bit of rotation going on.

This draw is on Conte due to lineup choices.  

Costa should stay on his feet more, but that discussion is a complete waste of time as we all know he won't change.

And Gary Cahill? Well, let's hope that Zouma is given plenty of time to make a full recovery still.

Today is the kind of performance that when compared with what Tottenham can do, what Arsenal may be capable of, and what's in Machester, you really doubt Chelsea make top four this season.

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16 minutes ago, dee25 said:

....which was a substitution. Not understanding your point that Conte's subs made no difference.... 

The sub he got right came too late. Again, I Can't get Moses for Oscar, and if he wanted to introduce Batshuay, that way to go was moving replacing one defensive player. Losing one man in the midfield for a CF is never a good idea. My point is Conte wasn't good today in his subs.

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We created more than enough chances to win this match and restricted Swansea from creating much. No one should blame Conte for anything, he did well. 

Our defense yet again has cost us points. Courtois with a stupid tackle and cahill dwelling on the ball too long. 

Costa is a good striker but concentrate on the match ffs. We wasted 15mins of the 2nd half on the Costa show, fouls, diving and antics and we lost momentum after that. If we just continued our passing patterns instead of looking for a red we would have dominated early and could have gotten that 2nd goal. 

Hazard was good in the first half, poor in the 2nd.  Why doesn't he shoot??? Argh!!!!

Willian and Oscar with their usual average, ok, 5/10 performance. Matic as usual a non-existent entity when we attack. 

But we should have put our chances away, we badly need a midfield goalscorer. Costa as the only player that can score goals in our starting lineup is not good enough. It's not good enough. It is a major weakness in this team. 

Oh and the ref is a useless bag of ****

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We only ever seem to really turn the screw when we go behind. at 1-0 we went through the motions without lacking the killer instinct. Conte has a lot of work to do with this side of the game, when we are in command we need to raise the tempo again and kill off teams.

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Not sure if it is just me ... But I feel we were complacent at time, just not players but should go out to our coaching staff as well ... We kept slowing the tempo just like we did under Jose ... Conte has lot to do but wouldnt blame him for the 2 goals conceded, only thing that can be at fault is subs should have come in earlier. 

However it is big improvement overall in the way we play ... players have decent level of freedom despite needing to have discipline to their roles. Long way to go but we are on a positive track. 

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I'm not that upset as I'd be last season though. So that's an improvement. 

What sucks though is that Arsenal have had 3 points gifted to them from penalties and here we are being robbed of 2 points. That's basically a 5 point swing from referee decisions alone and that's just 4 games into the season ! 

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46 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

We only ever seem to really turn the screw when we go behind. at 1-0 we went through the motions without lacking the killer instinct. Conte has a lot of work to do with this side of the game, when we are in command we need to raise the tempo again and kill off teams.

I thought of making a thread on this but didn't. It's really weird and you can count on it with us like clockwork. There is no urgency to the play unless they go behind. If we had played like we did in the last 15 minutes all game we would have battered them.

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Marriner made mistakes

Conte made mistakes

Costa made mistakes

Eden made mistakes

Cahill made mistakes

Courtois made a (forced?) mistake

We can't help the referee robbing us - as usual. Diego is a striker, missing goals is part of the job. Hazard is already much better this season than he's been at any point last season and I like where his evolution is going. The only things we can change is Conte stubbornness on not playing Cesc and taking way too long to change the team and our terrible defenders. Cahill or Terry must leave the first team (in an ideal world, both should be bench warmers, but we don't have good defenders at all). We should have won and I think these are the kind of points we shouldn't lose. We've only played terrible, terrible teams so far, I can only imagine when we get to face decent opposition. 

Conte needs to take a few more risks. It almost looks like we don't have a big ambition, as if the title was City's already. We should be more incisive especially because being in the top 4 alone is a hard task. Moving on from the lost points, but Conte has to start changing things either in the lineup or much earlier in the match than near the 80th minute.

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