manpe 10,861 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 1/3/2017 at 7:16 PM, the wes said: Riyad Mahrez has admitted that he used to watch Chelsea as a youngster because of club legend Didier Drogba http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/03/riyad-mahrez-reveals-he-used-to-watch-chelsea-because-of-didier-drogba-6358883/#ixzz4UiggaV9c Mahrez recently admitted that his funniest moment in Leicester’s title-winning campaign came when Tottenham threw the Premier League away at Stamford Bridge. ‘Funniest moment… I think when Tottenham were 2-0 ahead of Chelsea,’ he told FourFourTwo. ‘At half time it was like, all the team came to Vardy’s house and probably we are not going to be champions tonight. So I was like, what’s the point of coming today? ‘Then 2-1, 2-2, it was funny.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 So do you guys think we should go for him this summer? There's a big possibility that Leicester go down. And even if they don't go down he clearly will want out this summer. Yes he has been crap after last season, but the same thing happened to us. People wanted to sell Hazard and Costa last season because they where "rats" but they recover. I feel the same could happen with Mahrez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, Fernando said: So do you guys think we should go for him this summer? There's a big possibility that Leicester go down. And even if they don't go down he clearly will want out this summer. Yes he has been crap after last season, but the same thing happened to us. People wanted to sell Hazard and Costa last season because they where "rats" but they recover. I feel the same could happen with Mahrez. Still no. And the comparison with Hazard and Costa is just plain silly. Yes, they were bad last season but at least they had good seasons before that and we know they can perform at the highest level. There's still a huge question mark over that on Mahrez, whose last season's form looks nothing more than anomaly at this point. He's not even done anything good this season to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucashm 340 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 56 minutes ago, Fernando said: So do you guys think we should go for him this summer? There's a big possibility that Leicester go down. And even if they don't go down he clearly will want out this summer. Yes he has been crap after last season, but the same thing happened to us. People wanted to sell Hazard and Costa last season because they where "rats" but they recover. I feel the same could happen with Mahrez. Nope, his only good season was the last one, Costa and Hazard had several excelent season before. We should focus on Bernardo Silva for the RW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,146 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Stay away now, if we ever approached in the first place that is. We should be looking at throwing cash at Alexis Sanchez or someone at that level for our right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Do we need a right sided attacker at all? Pedro and Wiliian are already having to share the position. Unless it's someone spectacular like Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Fernando said: So do you guys think we should go for him this summer? There's a big possibility that Leicester go down. And even if they don't go down he clearly will want out this summer. Yes he has been crap after last season, but the same thing happened to us. People wanted to sell Hazard and Costa last season because they where "rats" but they recover. I feel the same could happen with Mahrez. Tell me, do you think Mahrez is the guy to help us win the Champions League? For me he isn't that calibre of player to go against Bayern etc but good for the squad I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 47 minutes ago, Jason said: Still no. And the comparison with Hazard and Costa is just plain silly. Yes, they were bad last season but at least they had good seasons before that and we know they can perform at the highest level. There's still a huge question mark over that on Mahrez, whose last season's form looks nothing more than anomaly at this point. He's not even done anything good this season to suggest otherwise. I still think it's the same. When your caught in a moment they are in, everything is horrible. Conte was able to bring out the best of Moses, sure he can with Mahrez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Fernando said: I still think it's the same. When your caught in a moment they are in, everything is horrible. How is it the same? In one case, you have two players with proven track record. In the other one, the player doesn't have that. 1 minute ago, Fernando said: Conte was able to bring out the best of Moses, sure he can with Mahrez. Conte has done wonders with this squad but let's not treat as if he'll turn every player into some world class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,078 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 It's a magnificent myth that Antonio has improved Moses. Victor is exactly the same player he ever was. All that has happened, is that Antonio has utilised him better. Victor is now performing a role which is within his limitations. Ask him to function as a wide attacker once more and he would not win a place in the side. The idea that Antonio has some kind of magic wand to transform journeymen into superstars is just wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It's a magnificent myth that Antonio has improved Moses. Victor is exactly the same player he ever was. All that has happened, is that Antonio has utilised him better. Victor is now performing a role which is within his limitations. Ask him to function as a wide attacker once more and he would not win a place in the side. The idea that Antonio has some kind of magic wand to transform journeymen into superstars is just wishful thinking. He simply plays in a role where he has space. Having speed and stamina coupled with space will make anyone look half decent. He still looks down at the floor the whole 90 minutes and has such a low football IQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It's a magnificent myth that Antonio has improved Moses. Victor is exactly the same player he ever was. All that has happened, is that Antonio has utilised him better. Victor is now performing a role which is within his limitations. Ask him to function as a wide attacker once more and he would not win a place in the side. The idea that Antonio has some kind of magic wand to transform journeymen into superstars is just wishful thinking. Its not that Conte snapped his fingers and Moses became better, but Moses has improved a lot this season. Both in attack and in defense, and especially in defense. I think that he would be a better winger today than he was when he played with us for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It's a magnificent myth that Antonio has improved Moses. Victor is exactly the same player he ever was. All that has happened, is that Antonio has utilised him better. Victor is now performing a role which is within his limitations. Ask him to function as a wide attacker once more and he would not win a place in the side. The idea that Antonio has some kind of magic wand to transform journeymen into superstars is just wishful thinking. Well not only Moses but also David luiz. He was not wanted by many here nor by many pundits. Look at how he has help him as well. I have no doubt that the same can be done for Mahrez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,078 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Yeboii said: Its not that Conte snapped his fingers and Moses became better, but Moses has improved a lot this season. Both in attack and in defense, and especially in defense. I think that he would be a better winger today than he was when he played with us for the first time. OK, we have a straightforward disagreement. Victor is more effective, because he is put in situations he can cope with but, in terms of his capabilities, he is not any better. That being my opinion, you'll understand why I absolutely and totally disagree with your assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Yeboii said: Its not that Conte snapped his fingers and Moses became better, but Moses has improved a lot this season. Both in attack and in defense, and especially in defense. I think that he would be a better winger today than he was when he played with us for the first time. Even now he makes beyond ridiculous brainfarts in the final 3rd and im talking one's no pro should make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 10 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It's a magnificent myth that Antonio has improved Moses. Victor is exactly the same player he ever was. All that has happened, is that Antonio has utilised him better. Victor is now performing a role which is within his limitations. Ask him to function as a wide attacker once more and he would not win a place in the side. The idea that Antonio has some kind of magic wand to transform journeymen into superstars is just wishful thinking. 10 hours ago, Supermonkey92 said: He simply plays in a role where he has space. Having speed and stamina coupled with space will make anyone look half decent. He still looks down at the floor the whole 90 minutes and has such a low football IQ Moses is not perfect but I think to say he hasn't improved under Conte is being ignorant. It takes more than just having pace and stamina to play in the wing back role. You still need to have a decent tactical intelligence, ability on the ball and workrate to make the position work. Do you think Conte would have played him if he didn't have those qualities? Can we get someone better to play in that RWB role? Yes. But Moses deserves credit how he has performed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,078 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Jason said: Moses is not perfect but I think to say he hasn't improved under Conte is being ignorant. It takes more than just having pace and stamina to play in the wing back role. You still need to have a decent tactical intelligence, ability on the ball and workrate to make the position work. Do you think Conte would have played him if he didn't have those qualities? Can we get someone better to play in that RWB role? Yes. But Moses deserves credit how he has performed this season. Hello Jay, Everything you say about the qualities required to play the wingback role, and Moses's possession of those qualities, is true. My contention is that Victor always had those attributes in sufficient quantity to play his current role, but that he does not have them to the degree required to replace Pedro, for example. Victor never has had that level of talent and never will. He is not a better player now. He's just playing a role which suits his already existing talents better. I suppose we all have a list of players we would replace in an effort to improve our team, and squad. On my version of that list Victor comes in at number two. Along with Marcos Alonso he has played an important role in our improvement since September. Neither of them is the final answer at wingback however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,078 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 13 hours ago, Fernando said: Well not only Moses but also David luiz. He was not wanted by many here nor by many pundits. Look at how he has help him as well. I have no doubt that the same can be done for Mahrez. Again, Antonio's contribution, brilliant contribution, has been to play David in a role which suits him better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Again, Antonio's contribution, brilliant contribution, has been to play David in a role which suits him better. And not only that but also Pedro and Matic which was woeful last season are also doing good. For all those situation I say Mahrez will be ideal and Conte will bring out the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Fernando said: And not only that but also Pedro and Matic which was woeful last season are also doing good. For all those situation I say Mahrez will be ideal and Conte will bring out the best of him. He showed a glimpse of his 15/16 season form on AFCON but so far not with Leicester which gives us the question: is he a one trick pony like Vardy or is he truly a great player that can make it in our starting XI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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