The Conte Thread

[manpe 10,861]

9 hours ago, Jason said:

I remember Conte used to be flexible with his formation in games last season. This season, he has stubbornly persisted with the same formation. It's always 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

What do you mean? We played almost exclusively 3-4-3 last season, sometimes 3-5-2 too. After the formation change last season we haven't used anything else.

[Styles 9,790]

This fucking clown should be sacked today but he's getting the opportunity to load the squad with even more Serie A rubbish.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

37 minutes ago, Styles said:

This fucking clown should be sacked today but he's getting the opportunity to load the squad with even more Serie A rubbish.

And you accuse me of trolling

 

[Pizy 18,993]

It's honestly scary thinking about what could happen this summer. Even though we're not doing terribly in terms of the race for top 4 it seems like so much is festering behind the scenes at the club. Conte publicly (and understandably) taking shots at the club every week, the club working at the pace of Cesc Fabregas in the market, and a couple of our best and nearly irreplaceable players reportedly want to leave in the summer.

I mean, it's not far fetched at all to think we could lose a world class manager, our talismanic attacking player, and our world class keeper in the same window. In a World Cup summer where prices skyrocket with good performances making it even more difficult for buying clubs. We think it's hard to sign good players now? Imagine how hard it'll be if a player we're after has a great World Cup. After we've got £150m or whatever in our pockets from selling Hazard.

All of this because of the club's refusal to back the manager with HIS first choice signings. And all of this while City and United are getting stronger and stronger and building super teams. City are walking the league and could very well win every competition they're in this season. What are they doing? Going out now and spending £60m on Laporte and probably going after Fred as well. Think I read yesterday that they'll have spend €400m on their defense alone over the past few years! Meanwhile Chelsea are struggling to sign a backup striker.

We're being left completely behind. Or maybe we already have been. Not optimistic about our immediate future at all. 😔

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, bluephoenix said:

You can't blame the man for speaking the truth. The recent transfers from our board suggest nothing short of what he just mentioned. My only fear is that by the time the stadium is ready we will be one of the team likes Spurs or Liverpool trying to be a big club but are nothing short of average with average players.

It's one thing to be realistic. It's another to keep on talking about till it sounds like defeatism, something Conte has done all season. How can one expect the players to be motivated when the manager is constantly saying we can't compete with City and United? How can anyone expect the players to feel confident when the manager is indirectly saying they aren't good enough by constantly moaning about transfer signings? It's little wonder that the players have looked they CBA for most of the season.

2 hours ago, bluephoenix said:

Hazard will leave us for RM coming summer and all hopes of us playing good football will rest in wonderland.

Correct me if I'm wrong but has Perez even spoken publicly about Hazard? I know he has expressed interest in Neymar but nothing about Hazard, IIRC. A lot of the Real Madrid stems from the fact that Zidane is there. Take him out of the equation and I'm not sure how genuine do Real want Hazard.

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, manpe said:

What do you mean? We played almost exclusively 3-4-3 last season, sometimes 3-5-2 too. After the formation change last season we haven't used anything else.

Didn't happen often but there were couple of times in games last season where Conte switched to the 4-2-4 when chasing for the win. Happened against West Ham, Watford, Burnley etc.

[Tautvix 1,321]

If Conte is definitely going end of the season then we don't need to waste money on buying players now... Because new coach will probably get rid of them.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Special Juan 28,187]

I'm going to say this now....I reckon he will do well to see out the next fortnight.

Marco Silva

[Pizy 18,993]

He won't be sacked during the season unless top 4 is gone. We'll batter Newcastle this weekend and the mood will lift temporarily.

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Can't believe some of the crap I read on here from Chelsea fans about Conte and him needing sacking, but thats the era of modern football that we live in, instant gratification and 'what have you done for me lately?

I am with Antonio on this, the board YET AGAIN have dragged their feet and failed to recognise the glaring issues in the team which I am sure Antonio has told them about until he's blue in the face. I had a bad feeling when we sold Matic to United, it felt a bit like Mourinho when we let Cech go. Conte clearly didn't want it but the board makes the decisions. 

On transfers, people saying a lot that 'oh he got players in from Serie A it must be his dealings', to an extent thats correct but maybe consider players like Alonso, Zappacosta etc... were his fifth or sixth choice in a long list of signings for those positions and the board just went for the easiest or cheapest fix? That would be kinda frustrating to a degree right?

Nevermind, Conte will either go before the end or definitely at the end of the season and it's rinse and repeat. The managerial merry go round goes on and sure we will continue to get some trophies along the way to justifty this, but my days the problem will always be there, the board needs a reshuffle. But let's just blame Antonio though, because it's probably easier to remove him rather than the politicking swines who balls up our transfer windows for seasons now. Sorry guys, you may not all agree but I just had to vent. 

[Jase 43,479]

20 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I'm going to say this now....I reckon he will do well to see out the next fortnight.

Nah. Reckon the defining point will be from mid-Feb till mid-March, when we play Barcelona (h), Man Utd (a), Man City (a), Barcelona (a).

21 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Marco Silva

No thanks. His teams play decent football but can't defend and he seems to be one of those who can get easily distracted by external happenings.

[Special Juan 28,187]

1 minute ago, Eidur the Spider said:

Can't believe some of the crap I read on here from Chelsea fans about Conte and him needing sacking, but thats the era of modern football that we live in, instant gratification and 'what have you done for me lately?

I am with Antonio on this, the board YET AGAIN have dragged their feet and failed to recognise the glaring issues in the team which I am sure Antonio has told them about until he's blue in the face. I had a bad feeling when we sold Matic to United, it felt a bit like Mourinho when we let Cech go. Conte clearly didn't want it but the board makes the decisions. 

On transfers, people saying a lot that 'oh he got players in from Serie A it must be his dealings', to an extent thats correct but maybe consider players like Alonso, Zappacosta etc... were his fifth or sixth choice in a long list of signings for those positions and the board just went for the easiest or cheapest fix? That would be kinda frustrating to a degree right?

Nevermind, Conte will either go before the end or definitely at the end of the season and it's rinse and repeat. The managerial merry go round goes on and sure we will continue to get some trophies along the way to justifty this, but my days the problem will always be there, the board needs a reshuffle. But let's just blame Antonio though, because it's probably easier to remove him rather than the politicking swines who balls up our transfer windows for seasons now. Sorry guys, you may not all agree but I just had to vent. 

You are spot on, I have been saying it for months and even years, the shake has to come from elsewhere and not the manager.

They have not backed Conte despite popular belief, had they done so he wouldn't be moaning now. It all comes down to penny pinching and stop gaps, that is why we are not moving forward like we should.

Conte has exactly the right identity we need in a manger. He's smart, likeable, very good at his job, speak honestly and from the heart, he's passionate and he is also a man of pride. The club should be bending over backwards to keep this guy but they are driving him away and it's quite frankly hurtful to see.

[Special Juan 28,187]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Nah. Reckon the defining point will be from mid-Feb till mid-March, when we play Barcelona (h), Man Utd (a), Man City (a), Barcelona (a).

No thanks. His teams play decent football but can't defend and he seems to be one of those who can get easily distracted by external happenings.

I wasn't plumbing for Silva, I actually think that is what this idiotic board would do.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I wasn't plumbing for Silva, I actually think that is what this idiotic board would do.

[Pizy 18,993]

The most common argument I'm seeing on Twitter when Chelsea fans are complaining about Conte not being backed is "you've spent loads, why are you moaning!?" Failing to realize that we didn't spend loads of money adding to an already good squad. We sold a world class DM and replaced him with a worse player in Bakayoko and we sold a world class striker and replaced him with Morata who isn't as good. Didn't sign a LWB, didn't sign a single attacking player other than Morata who was a direct replacement for someone we sold. Drinkwater was so obviously not Conte's first or even 5th choice, and Zappacosta was probably his 4th choice and a panic buy after we failed with everyone else.

 

[Special Juan 28,187]

We have spent loads.....on shite. Totally different if your spending stacks on actually quality elite players, but we aren't.

[Jase 43,479]

21 minutes ago, Pizy said:

The most common argument I'm seeing on Twitter when Chelsea fans are complaining about Conte not being backed is "you've spent loads, why are you moaning!?" Failing to realize that we didn't spend loads of money adding to an already good squad. We sold a world class DM and replaced him with a worse player in Bakayoko and we sold a world class striker and replaced him with Morata who isn't as good. Didn't sign a LWB, didn't sign a single attacking player other than Morata who was a direct replacement for someone we sold. Drinkwater was so obviously not Conte's first or even 5th choice, and Zappacosta was probably his 4th choice and a panic buy after we failed with everyone else.

Wait, did you say just Matic is a WORLD CLASS? I get what you're trying to say but c'mon now. That's just silly.

[Pizy 18,993]

12 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

We have spent loads.....on shite. Totally different if your spending stacks on actually quality elite players, but we aren't.

And if Conte goes we'll have another huge headache to deal with if the next manager doesn't fancy the likes of Drinkwater, Baka, Zappacosta etc. But since we spent big money on them the club will force the new man to "work with what you have" and then we're right back to having a frustrated manager.

[Special Juan 28,187]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

And if Conte goes we'll have another huge headache to deal with if the next manager doesn't fancy the likes of Drinkwater, Baka, Zappacosta etc. But since we spent big money on them the club will force the new man to "work with what you have" and then we're right back to having a frustrated manager.

Rinse and repeat.