The Conte Thread

[DDA 9,924]

4 minutes ago, the wes said:

CHELSEA may stick with current boss Antonio Conte for next season if they fail to complete a deal for former Napoli manager Maurizio Sarri, according to Raphael Honigstein.

Would much rather have Conte over Blanc but I am not sure the players are on the same page. 

[the wes 7,212]

6 minutes ago, DDA said:

Would much rather have Conte over Blanc but I am not sure the players are on the same page. 

I agree mate 

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CHELSEA may stick with current boss Antonio Conte for next season if they fail to complete a deal for former Napoli manager Maurizio Sarri, according to Raphael Honigstein.

 

Well, that would be the most logical thing, since the board doesn’t want to pay both Conte and Napoli.

 

If it was only Sarri’s cause, it would’ve probably be done by now.

 

Bad things is - if he does stay, next season the press will be even more insufferable. This season was “Will you be a Chelsea manager next season?” and this season will be “Are you going to sign an extension?” every week...

 

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[Unionjack 7,531]

Might see RM going after him eh. Give him a big budget.

[the wes 7,212]

 

[manpe 10,861]

I think Conte would do just fine in Madrid.

[Unionjack 7,531]

6 minutes ago, manpe said:

I think Conte would do just fine in Madrid.

And I hope he would be amazing foe them.

[El P. 1,354]

It was a pleasure, sir. This board doesn't deserve you.

Sack the man so he can find a new job, show some respect.

[manpe 10,861]

He must be laughing himself to sleep every night seeing how this incompetent board of frauds aren't even capable of replacing him.

[El P. 1,354]

All of the board's energy should be focused on rebuilding our team and giving it a proper pre-season. Getting new manager in situation like ours is like getting a new paint on the car which has broken engine.

Fix the bloody engine first!

[Superblue 6,372]

2 hours ago, El P. said:

All of the board's energy should be focused on rebuilding our team and giving it a proper pre-season. Getting new manager in situation like ours is like getting a new paint on the car which has broken engine.

Fix the bloody engine first!

Ridiculous statement, we need a manager first and foremost.

Will we carry on with a back 3 or revert to a back 4? Are we looking to play a possession based game or look to improve on a counter attacking style?

Until a manager is in place with a blueprint of how they wish to set the team up, buying players is not possible. 

I'm sure some groundwork has been done on summer transfers and the manager situation needs to be clarified before this can go any further.

I don't believe for one minute Conte had no say in transfers. He may not have got some of his first choice options and had the final say but he had an element of influence on proceedings. 

 

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

3 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Ridiculous statement, we need a manager first and foremost.

Will we carry on with a back 3 or revert to a back 4? Are we looking to play a possession based game or look to improve on a counter attacking style?

Until a manager is in place with a blueprint of how they wish to set the team up, buying players is not possible. 

I'm sure some groundwork has been done on summer transfers and the manager situation needs to be clarified before this can go any further.

I don't believe for one minute Conte had no say in transfers. He may not have got some of his first choice options and had the final say but he had an element of influence on proceedings. 

 

Yeah people just need to take a quick look at the amount of players we signed who played in Italy or are Italian in the 2 years Conte was manager to realize Conte had a clear hand in our transfer targets.

Rudiger, Zappacosta, Emerson, Alonso and while we got Luiz and Kante our first choices were Koulibaly and Nainggolan. 

Nainggolan rejected us (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/radja-nainggolan-says-he-rejected-chelsea-because-he-would-not-give-up-perfect-life-in-rome-for-a3777761.html)

ADL rejected our £58 million bid (https://www.football-italia.net/92528/adl-chelsea-bid-£58m-koulibaly)

That's 6 players in 2 years under Conte. How many italian players did we sign the 2 years before Conte ? 1 well 0.5 actually if we're being precise. Filipe Luis is apparently part Italian. 

Clear difference yet you still have people yapping about how our managers have no say whatsoever. 

[Alabama 1,992]

6 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Yeah people just need to take a quick look at the amount of players we signed who played in Italy or are Italian in the 2 years Conte was manager to realize Conte had a clear hand in our transfer targets.

Rudiger, Zappacosta, Emerson, Alonso and while we got Luiz and Kante our first choices were Koulibaly and Nainggolan. 

Nainggolan rejected us (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/radja-nainggolan-says-he-rejected-chelsea-because-he-would-not-give-up-perfect-life-in-rome-for-a3777761.html)

ADL rejected our £58 million bid (https://www.football-italia.net/92528/adl-chelsea-bid-£58m-koulibaly)

That's 6 players in 2 years under Conte. How many italian players did we sign the 2 years before Conte ? 1 well 0.5 actually if we're being precise. Filipe Luis is apparently part Italian. 

Clear difference yet you still have people yapping about how our managers have no say whatsoever. 

Thanks for this piece...i find it difficult to comprehend how cfc fans ridiculously side conte while claiming he has no say in transfers... I mean look at Bakayoko he is 100% conte target while majority of people knew fabinho was the better player at least in terms of overall football abilities or qualities...well look at what he has become ....Barkley Drinkwater are the few players I can say ain't conte targets... 

[Tomo 21,751]

10 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Yeah people just need to take a quick look at the amount of players we signed who played in Italy or are Italian in the 2 years Conte was manager to realize Conte had a clear hand in our transfer targets.

Rudiger, Zappacosta, Emerson, Alonso and while we got Luiz and Kante our first choices were Koulibaly and Nainggolan. 

Nainggolan rejected us (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/radja-nainggolan-says-he-rejected-chelsea-because-he-would-not-give-up-perfect-life-in-rome-for-a3777761.html)

ADL rejected our £58 million bid (https://www.football-italia.net/92528/adl-chelsea-bid-£58m-koulibaly)

That's 6 players in 2 years under Conte. How many italian players did we sign the 2 years before Conte ? 1 well 0.5 actually if we're being precise. Filipe Luis is apparently part Italian. 

Clear difference yet you still have people yapping about how our managers have no say whatsoever. 

Our last Serie A signing pre Conte was Sheva.

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1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

Yeah people just need to take a quick look at the amount of players we signed who played in Italy or are Italian in the 2 years Conte was manager to realize Conte had a clear hand in our transfer targets.

Rudiger, Zappacosta, Emerson, Alonso and while we got Luiz and Kante our first choices were Koulibaly and Nainggolan. 

Nainggolan rejected us (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/radja-nainggolan-says-he-rejected-chelsea-because-he-would-not-give-up-perfect-life-in-rome-for-a3777761.html)

ADL rejected our £58 million bid (https://www.football-italia.net/92528/adl-chelsea-bid-£58m-koulibaly)

That's 6 players in 2 years under Conte. How many italian players did we sign the 2 years before Conte ? 1 well 0.5 actually if we're being precise. Filipe Luis is apparently part Italian. 

Clear difference yet you still have people yapping about how our managers have no say whatsoever. 

You're being incredibly disingenuous in your presentation. Let's take a look at the 4 players we have purchased from Serie A.

Rudiger, the first signing that you listed, was linked to usin 2015. Therefore, we can eliminate him as a pure Conte signing.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11685454/Chelsea-transfer-news-and-rumours-Stuttgart-defender-Antonio-Rudiger-wants-Stamford-Bridge-move.html

Emerson, the guy who has played 559 minutes all year. Do you really think it is fair to characterize him as a Conte signing?

Marcos Alonso- He may very well have been a signing Conte approved of, but the club were desperate to replace him with Alex Sandro. Yes, Sandro is a Serie A player, but he also happens to be one of the best players in his position and a top player that we would be looking at regardless.

Zappacosta- Bench player, but he's probably a signing that Conte approved of.

As for the links to Koulibaly and Nainggolan, these are top players and they both fit the player profile that we sign,Koulibaly especially. In addition, these are mere links. we have been linked with Serie A players on numerous occasions throughout the years.

Here are two examples:

Higuain while at Napoli https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/gonzalo-higuain-to-chelsea-napoli-striker-linked-with-30m-move-to-stamford-bridge-10293584.html

Berrardi https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/615255/Sussuolo-Domenico-Berardi-Transfer-News-Gossip

In addition to that, we signed both Juan Cuadrado and Marco Amelia less than 2 years prior to Conte's arrival. So in your arbitrary 2 year period prior to Conte, we have signed 2 players from Italian Leagues compared to the 3 signings since Conte has arrived. Nothing noteworthy about that.

The last thing to consider is how many signings we have made in the last 2 years. In total we have made 13 signings. That means that 3 out of 13 signings come from Serie A, but only 2 of those seem to be players that Conte likes. This paints an entirely different picture than what you have.

Saying that Conte has no say in transfers is a hyperbolic statement, but that doesn't mean that Conte has much influence.The reality is that the club have made more signings that Conte disapproves of than he has approved of. Barkley, Emerson, Drinkwater, and Batshuayi have all had a terrible time getting games under Conte. In addition, we know that the club disregarded Conte's plans when they decided to sell Matic. This is indicative of a manager with little influence. Overall, the point that is trying to be made is that this; the current team is not a team built by Conte. Our current team was built by those at the top of the club hierarchy. This means that if the club is to move forward, we need to improve our decision making in the transfer market.