Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 this has shevchenko written all over it. you might argue Shevchenko was in way better shape and the serie still a better league back then. Will be an absolute catastrophe if we sell 25 y.o. Morata and 24 y.o. Batshuayi and want to build our future on 30 y.o. Higuain and 32 y.o. Giroud. Good luck with that. and don't get to me with Tammy. He will never be even as good as Morata. Higuain is the Fabregas of strikers. Should be at his peak at 30 but already has so much football in his bones due to starting at such an early age that he moves like an old man and his goalside contribution barely papers over the cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On one hand, he's a great striker. Great goals to games ratio, excellent technically, can hold the ball as well as carry it, can bring his teammates into play. Despite his chunky appearence he's actually quite mobile and nimble. Certainly an upgrade on Morata. On the other hand, he's soon to be 31, will surely cost an absolute fortune, and doesn't appear to be in great physical shape now in his prime so how will he be in a few years? I definitely wouldn't say no to him because he'll score loads I think, but I'd much rather have Icardi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said: this has shevchenko written all over it. you might argue Shevchenko was in way better shape and the serie still a better league back then. Will be an absolute catastrophe if we sell 25 y.o. Morata and 24 y.o. Batshuayi and want to build our future on 30 y.o. Higuain and 32 y.o. Giroud. Good luck with that. While i agree its not the best plan, if we get Sarri it is tough to say Higuain will be a disaster. Also it certainly opens the door for Tammy to learn and develop. If we were to swap Morata for Higuain I would really like if Batman would be kept. He genuinely wants to be here and showed a little bit at dortmund and always looks good for belgium. BUT lots of variables need to sort out before this becomes a reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: On one hand, he's a great striker. Great goals to games ratio, excellent technically, can hold the ball as well as carry it, can bring his teammates into play. Despite his chunky appearence he's actually quite mobile and nimble. Certainly an upgrade on Morata. On the other hand, he's soon to be 31, will surely cost an absolute fortune, and doesn't appear to be in great physical shape now in his prime so how will he be in a few years? I definitely wouldn't say no to him because he'll score loads I think, but I'd much rather have Icardi. Icardi 100%, but the difference is I think this would be a straight swap Morata <--> Higuain whereas we would have to trigger the 110m Release clause for Icardi. (I would still prefer icardi, but thats not how chelsea operate. Although the same could be said for swapping a young asset for an old one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 please don't be true... I can't wrap my head around the idea of swapping Higuain for Morata.. would rather keep Morata... only striker capable of trading Morata for is Icardi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 4:14 PM, !Hazard! said: Depends on the price tag. If he comes for Giroud money then it's obviously a great move, for anything above £25m it's a massive gamble on an ageing player cristiano ronaldo is an ageing player too? imho the age of a player doesn't concern at all with his value. this policy of buying young players is a trend and a smart strategy of the owner, so he can sell the player and make money in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Antonio8 said: cristiano ronaldo is an ageing player too? imho the age of a player doesn't concern at all with his value. this policy of buying young players is a trend and a smart strategy of the owner, so he can sell the player and make money in future Agreed, we brought Zola, arguably the club's most beloved player at the age of 30. Key successes such as the Champions League relied on the likes of Ashley Cole, Lampard and Drogba pushing the team on well into their 30's. Not every player needs buying with the idea that he is young and will develop at the club and have a good resale value attached to him. We could keep Morata but over the next 4 or 5 years he may never hit the heights that Higuain might hit in 1 year, and then you assess which would be more important. At the moment Higuain is a better striker and goalscorer than Morata and 30 nowadays is not the end. He could easily perform well for 2-3 seasons which makes a move well worth it. It would remind me a bit of United's move for Van Persie (although I know it's not the exact same situation), looking to get the last peak season or two out of him in an effort to guarantee us goals. I would though still be surprised at a move due to the club's policy on 30 and over, although they gave some leeway to Giroud on this and that turned out well so they may have softened their stance somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: At the moment Higuain is a better striker and goalscorer than Morata. Not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Agreed, we brought Zola, arguably the club's most beloved player at the age of 30. Key successes such as the Champions League relied on the likes of Ashley Cole, Lampard and Drogba pushing the team on well into their 30's. Not every player needs buying with the idea that he is young and will develop at the club and have a good resale value attached to him. We could keep Morata but over the next 4 or 5 years he may never hit the heights that Higuain might hit in 1 year, and then you assess which would be more important. At the moment Higuain is a better striker and goalscorer than Morata and 30 nowadays is not the end. He could easily perform well for 2-3 seasons which makes a move well worth it. It would remind me a bit of United's move for Van Persie (although I know it's not the exact same situation), looking to get the last peak season or two out of him in an effort to guarantee us goals. I would though still be surprised at a move due to the club's policy on 30 and over, although they gave some leeway to Giroud on this and that turned out well so they may have softened their stance somewhat. Whereas I would prefer a younger lad like Icardi I dont mind us buying a 30+ player neither. But they are a HOPEFULLY quick fix. Contracts mean nothing nowadays and players just use clubs as stepping stones. So while its good if a player sees his contract out theres many times they dont. The only downside to a 30+ is no resale. But buy someone like Lewa or Higuain and at least we SHOULD be able to get 20+ goals from them for 3 seasons or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, pHaRaOn said: Not by much. Yes but am i right in interpreting that as he scored 21 goals with only 15 expected goals? I just feel the guilt edged chances that morata missed last season, someone like higuain scores most of those and those missed points get us top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Shit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Special Juan said: GUESSING that translates as we put a 60mill euro offer in for Higuain and Rugani??? I'd be happy with both but just dont see our board will think twice about Higuain at price/age. Same as Sarri wants Martens like Conte did. Just wont happen, Juventus-Chelsea, agreement for Higuain The Pipita ready to move to London for 60 million euros: the official after the arrival of Sarri https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/juventus/juventus-chelsea-accordo-per-higuain_1223537-201802a.shtml&prev=search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I think Sarri can get goals out of Morata. Higuain's numbers never looked as good as when he was playing under Sarri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, Sideshow Luiz said: I think Sarri can get goals out of Morata. Higuain's numbers never looked as good as when he was playing under Sarri. But HE WILL be playing under Sarri lolAnd APPARENTLY agreements made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Lot of dosh. Taking it with a pinch of salt, unless other outlets report the same without quoting Mediaset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 He's a shit player is the recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 So many variables here to consider, these are just the main ones: 1) We need to get Sarri confirmed before this even becomes a hint of reality, this is obvious. 2) Would we really swap Morata at his age and price for Higuain? I have my doubts, goes against how we do business. I have no doubts about Higuain as a player, i think he would bang goals in the PL for fun especially in a system he thrived in. 3) Could someone else offer us more money for Morata which we would then flip the majority of for Higuain and pocket the rest? Could be likely, but I still do not see Chelsea paying 50+ for an older striker no matter WHO the coach wants. Unless we receive some batshit offer for Morata, i just do not see the club giving up on a record signing who is 5 years younger than the new target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Juventus must be planning selling him if they want ronaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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