The Hiddink Thread

[chelseafan26 293]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

One youngster doesn't play, moan.

One youngster does play, moan more ain't

Who was moaning about kenedy playing? Is this comment a joke or simply a wind up?

why is not rlc starting now? What does it take for gutless hiddink to drop that sack of shit Oscar, and play rlc!! Why was not baba starting ahead of iva who last time I watched before this game was made to sit on his ass by romelu while he scored a goal. I won't say traore because remy does deserve a shot, maybe. 

Gutless thinks that we can still make a "European spot". I don't know what stuff he is having, but I won't try it. Play the fucking youth for once!!!!

[Tomo 21,751]

5 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said:

Who was moaning about kenedy playing? Is this comment a joke or simply a wind up?

why is not rlc starting now? What does it take for gutless hiddink to drop that sack of shit Oscar, and play rlc!! Why was not baba starting ahead of iva who last time I watched before this game was made to sit on his ass by romelu while he scored a goal. I won't say traore because remy does deserve a shot, maybe. 

Gutless thinks that we can still make a "European spot". I don't know what stuff he is having, but I won't try it. Play the fucking youth for once!!!!

Because if all those players played instead of being happy their probably be groans because Miazga didnt start and Jake Clarke Salter didn't come on at 3-0. 

 

Where you here when we played Shrewsbury? Christensen, Ake and Zouma (who was " youth" at the time) got selected, in the threads after instead of being happy three teenagers got their chance it was "Jose hates youth, how dare he not play Baker and Brown".

[Muzchap 8,966]

10 hours ago, Tomo said:

Because if all those players played instead of being happy their probably be groans because Miazga didnt start and Jake Clarke Salter didn't come on at 3-0. 

 

Where you here when we played Shrewsbury? Christensen, Ake and Zouma (who was " youth" at the time) got selected, in the threads after instead of being happy three teenagers got their chance it was "Jose hates youth, how dare he not play Baker and Brown".

Exactly - I can't be arsed with this forum anymore 

so many fucking haters and negativity on EVERYTHING 

it is ridiculous - West Ham are an in-form team and flying high, there is no God given right to beat them, playing RLC wouldn't have altered that in my opinion. 

I can't wait to see the meltdown if a new manager comes in and doesn't pick the youngsters. The thing is the manager sees these players every single day in training - he is clearly seeing something we are not, so whatever it is, the youngsters need to sort it out. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

What exactly was the point of starting Remy instead of Traore when Loic is almost certainly gone at the end of the seasons?

Why was Oscar played instead of RLC who has gotten much less playing time this season than promised?

Why not start Mizaga (is that his name?!) when the match result has very little significance?

Don't know about everyone else, but I would have gladly taken zero points yesterday instead of (an undeserved/lucky) one to see those three start.

Also, since result wise our season is basically over, why not have a couple of players from the academy on the bench just for motivation and maybe a cameo?

I'm genuinely beginning to believe that Guus is more worried about his unbeaten league record more than the future of this club... 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

25 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

What exactly was the point of starting Remy instead of Traore when Loic is almost certainly gone at the end of the seasons?

Shop window?

25 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Why was Oscar played instead of RLC who has gotten much less playing time this season than promised?

Ditto?

25 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Why not start Mizaga (is that his name?!) when the match result has very little significance?

The z and the a are reversed.

I'd have liked that but following Guus's press conferrence, when he said that youngsters were more likely to get chances after the international break, I didn't expect it.

25 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

I'm genuinely beginning to believe that Guus is more worried about his unbeaten league record more than the future of this club...

It's clear from his pre & post match comments that Guus is very proud of the record, and rightly so. Let's see how things go after the break.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Shop window?

Ditto?

The z and the a are reversed.

I'd have liked that but following Guus's press conferrence, when he said that youngsters were more likely to get chances after the international break, I didn't expect it.

It's clear from his pre & post match comments that Guus is very proud of the record, and rightly so. Let's see how things go after the break.

Did it work, though? Having watched the replay this morning, I thought Remy's and certainly Oscar's market values probably went down after that match...

Hopefully we get to see a bit different approach to matches after the break, then. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

What exactly was the point of starting Remy instead of Traore when Loic is almost certainly gone at the end of the seasons?

Why was Oscar played instead of RLC who has gotten much less playing time this season than promised?

Why not start Mizaga (is that his name?!) when the match result has very little significance?

Don't know about everyone else, but I would have gladly taken zero points yesterday instead of (an undeserved/lucky) one to see those three start.

Also, since result wise our season is basically over, why not have a couple of players from the academy on the bench just for motivation and maybe a cameo?

I'm genuinely beginning to believe that Guus is more worried about his unbeaten league record more than the future of this club... 

 

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Shop window?

Ditto?

The z and the a are reversed.

I'd have liked that but following Guus's press conferrence, when he said that youngsters were more likely to get chances after the international break, I didn't expect it.

It's clear from his pre & post match comments that Guus is very proud of the record, and rightly so. Let's see how things go after the break.

With home games against Spurs, Man City and Leicester to come, I'm not sure Hiddink would even play the kids.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I think I have reach to the point that whoever we played, old or youth, we will still get the same results. So in my opinion Guus could play anyone he wants.

Just finished the season, and if we could, on the process, we will help Leicester to win it. Have a little break and start a new era under Conte.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Considering we dont have anything to play for, I want to see something positive in the remaining matches.

Either give RLC, Baba, Kenedy, Traore a proper run at least to test them where they are before picking squad for next season. Dont care if we lose in that case because at least some young players will develop.

Or play safe, play Mikel and win the fucking game. 

 

Im sick to death that Mikel, Oscar and others play week in week out, no improvement whatsoever and meanwhile all Guus does is keep selecting them so we can nick a fucking draw after draw in boring games. At least tell players to go all out, give them freedom to express themselves etc. 

I dont know, but what we are doing now is leading nowhere. Selecting same team, same tactics, no changes, no improvement. 

I would expect the board to have still some goals till end season like develop a youth player or sth. Instead our goal is what,; make another 6 draws in next 6 games? 

Its this mentality and thinking that got the club in situation we are right now. Sadly different manager same story because all they are are yes men. I hope Conte of whoever will be independent. 

[BlueLion. 21,491]

3 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

 

It's clear from his pre & post match comments that Guus is very proud of the record, and rightly so. Let's see how things go after the break.

One thing I've said is that, if we avoid defeat between now and the end of the season, we could end the season on a 22-game unbeaten streak.

 

Looking at our fixtures, that is going to be very difficult, especially with Spurs, City, and Leicester all at the Bridge, and Liverpool away. Villa away is never easy for us (bogey ground) and Sunderland is going to be a tough game for us, too, given their predicament. In fact, Bournemouth and Swansea, though both safe, will be tough trips as well.

 

Thinking about it, that's a fucking horrendous run-in  But if we avoid defeat in that period, going 22 games unbeaten is a phenomenal achievement, even if (at our current rate) about 15 of them will be draws  

[Tomo 21,751]

39 minutes ago, BlueLion said:

One thing I've said is that, if we avoid defeat between now and the end of the season, we could end the season on a 22-game unbeaten streak.

 

Looking at our fixtures, that is going to be very difficult, especially with Spurs, City, and Leicester all at the Bridge, and Liverpool away. Villa away is never easy for us (bogey ground) and Sunderland is going to be a tough game for us, too, given their predicament. In fact, Bournemouth and Swansea, though both safe, will be tough trips as well.

 

Thinking about it, that's a fucking horrendous run-in  But if we avoid defeat in that period, going 22 games unbeaten is a phenomenal achievement, even if (at our current rate) about 15 of them will be draws  

Villa away bring a bogey ground is truly a thing if the past. 10 points in 5 games there in recent times has put pay to that, still saying Villa Park is a bogey ground is the equivalent off us still regarding White Hart Lane as a routine three points.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

51 minutes ago, BlueLion said:

Thinking about it, that's a fucking horrendous run-in  But if we avoid defeat in that period, going 22 games unbeaten is a phenomenal pointless achievement, even if (at our current rate) about 15 of them will be draws  

Fixed. 

I get why you'd want an unbeaten spell inside a season to help morale and gain momentum, but what's the point of it in a run-in, particularly when we have nothing to play for anymore..

[Kieran. 6,317]

1 hour ago, CHOULO19 said:

Fixed. 

I get why you'd want an unbeaten spell inside a season to help morale and gain momentum, but what's the point of it in a run-in, particularly when we have nothing to play for anymore..

It'll continue into the next season. 8 wins and draws to start the season and all of a sudden we're unbeaten in 30.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

3 hours ago, Kieran. said:

It'll continue into the next season. 8 wins and draws to start the season and all of a sudden we're unbeaten in 30.

Precisely. Something for Conte to work with. We're scraping the very bottom of the barrel, I know, but something positive to cling onto over the summer is better than nothing. We're fortunate for the Euros this summer, otherwise it would be a very long and painful wait for the new season.

 

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

Villa away bring a bogey ground is truly a thing if the past. 10 points in 5 games there in recent times has put pay to that, still saying Villa Park is a bogey ground is the equivalent off us still regarding White Hart Lane as a routine three points.

5 games doesn't consign something to the past... people ignore the importance of history in football. It often outweighs form by a considerable distance.

[MichaelDance 552]

The issue here is if we keep on winning 1 point per game all the other teams need to do is win 3 points to drag us down.

[Tomo 21,751]

44 minutes ago, BlueLion said:

Precisely. Something for Conte to work with. We're scraping the very bottom of the barrel, I know, but something positive to cling onto over the summer is better than nothing. We're fortunate for the Euros this summer, otherwise it would be a very long and painful wait for the new season.

 

5 games doesn't consign something to the past... people ignore the importance of history in football. It often outweighs form by a considerable distance.

It is certainly enough time to alter the complex of the fixture, yes pre 2009 I saw Villa Park as a bogey stadium but four wins since has altered my views on that regard.

Look at Spurs vs Arsenal for example,ten years Tottenham went without beating Arsenal in the league, they finally do it and now Spurs go into it thinking they can beat them and often do.

In fact look at our own record against Arsenal in prem era, a lucky richochet off Drogbas knee is all It took to almost swap who had the inferiority complex in that particular head to head.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

59 minutes ago, MichaelDance said:

The issue here is if we keep on winning 1 point per game all the other teams need to do is win 3 points to drag us down.

Yep that's the problem could easily be dragged back down the table.not that it matters as never gana get eruope or anything but be nice to finish top half even if it is 10th..probably end up back to 14th to be annoying 

Edited March 20, 2016 by Laylabelle

[chelseafan26 293]

On 19/03/2016 at 3:53 AM, Tomo said:

Because if all those players played instead of being happy their probably be groans because Miazga didnt start and Jake Clarke Salter didn't come on at 3-0. 

 

Where you here when we played Shrewsbury? Christensen, Ake and Zouma (who was " youth" at the time) got selected, in the threads after instead of being happy three teenagers got their chance it was "Jose hates youth, how dare he not play Baker and Brown".

Fair enough if this happen, but just because a couple of internet warriors wanted a team of U-21s to play, does not mean that should stop the current manager to do the "right" thing.

Why is not RLC playing ahead of oscar? Why is not Baba playing? Remy has been said to be leaving us for 2 windows and I am quite certain that he surely will leave now, why not start with traore. This is not a knockout competition, we are not in a position where we would lose something even if these 4 perform poorly like baba did against soton. We literally have nothing to lose. and infact playing RLC over oscar would make us better imo. So why not give these kids the oppurtunity? Why just start with the best FIFA rated players? 

[BlueLion. 21,491]

13 hours ago, Tomo said:

It is certainly enough time to alter the complex of the fixture, yes pre 2009 I saw Villa Park as a bogey stadium but four wins since has altered my views on that regard.

Look at Spurs vs Arsenal for example,ten years Tottenham went without beating Arsenal in the league, they finally do it and now Spurs go into it thinking they can beat them and often do.

In fact look at our own record against Arsenal in prem era, a lucky richochet off Drogbas knee is all It took to almost swap who had the inferiority complex in that particular head to head.

 

I agree with your two examples, especially the Chelsea-Arsenal one, as that is something that has resulted in more than a decade of dominance... the Villa Park hoodoo has only been "dead" for five seasons (though let's not forget the 13/14 defeat, with Delph's worldie and Willian's red card), so let's not get carried away... even in their shittest of shit seasons, I expect Villa to go out all guns blazing against us, because, just like Newcastle, they are shitcunts of the highest order and like to raise their game against us.

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, BlueLion said:

 

I agree with your two examples, especially the Chelsea-Arsenal one, as that is something that has resulted in more than a decade of dominance... the Villa Park hoodoo has only been "dead" for five seasons (though let's not forget the 13/14 defeat, with Delph's worldie and Willian's red card), so let's not get carried away... even in their shittest of shit seasons, I expect Villa to go out all guns blazing against us, because, just like Newcastle, they are shitcunts of the highest order and like to raise their game against us.

If we can't beat Aston Villa, maybe we should take their place at the bottom of the table.