The Mourinho Thread

[Hutcho 8,443]

The problem is he is only going to be here for at most 3-4 years at a maximun before leaving either through arguments with the board and/or players. Looking at his tenure in Real Madrid its not certain he is going to be a huge success with us like last time (he has to win the CL this season with Madrid otherwise Madrid fans will considere his reign a massive disappointment) but it does seem that he always leaves with a dressing room with over powered egos and a atmosphere that is prone to be volatile atmosphere for future managers.

Klopp would be my dream manager, seems to have the right approach for a club to be sustainable in long term (even if he does not stay there for 5+ years) measurements, but since he is someone who is unikely to agree to join us then someone like Pellegrini. Who bases his tactics on the best players less on trying to create big egos to drive the team.

Name me one manager who would be here for 3-4 years?

1. Our recent history would say that the answer is very likely going to be no-one.

2. We have no way of knowing how long he will stay here, and for that matter anyone. We could have laudrup and he could be gone in a year. Klopp could be gone in a year not that he is an option.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Good post.

Pellegrini won nothing, nothing, I dont even think his CV could reach Roman's desk He miserably failed at Madrid, but he is certainly a good option if Mourinho goes to another club.

He got 96 points in the only La Liga campaing he had with them, at that point the most in Madrid's history. There were two factors that went against him, the fact that one of the greatest teams in history were at their peak and got 99 points (that may also be seen as why the Spanish league is seen as shit and boring for those not supporting the top 2) and that pro-Madrid publications like Marca (who have influences on the running of the club) hated him from day one and seem to staged a horrible media campaign to get him out. The club even admit that had Mourinho not been available they would have given him another season. I think its a bit harsh to say it was a complete failure.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Name me one manager who would be here for 3-4 years?

1. Our recent history would say that the answer is very likely going to be no-one.

2. We have no way of knowing how long he will stay here, and for that matter anyone. We could have laudrup and he could be gone in a year. Klopp could be gone in a year not that he is an option.

But to bring another point (which I have expressed repeatadly) its not just about how long you stay there (of course it has a part in it) buts its also the philosphy you use on how to shaoe the dressing room. Jouse Mourinho is football's personifcation of hedonism - he is there if you want instant success (providing you give him bug funds to buy players he wants, ususually those over the age of 25), but its what happens after he leaves, as it seems that he creates a dressing room that is difficult to manage becuase of the big egos he creates and as seen with Inter - filling the team with players in their 20s, past their prime but under him given long term contracts. Meaning its hard to get rid of them to replace them with younger players. As seen with us after years and years of trying to keep the status quo, we are going to have to go through a couple of years of major reconstruction to be a constant force in football. More so look at Inter, after a few years as club who could only get into the Europa league, they are only now starting reconsturct themselves and go into the right direction, replacing their older players that were given huge contracts under Jose with younger players who can take the club forward.

We already had our go with Jose's way of running the team, I sincerely believe trying to do it again will just not give us the same success.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Just because something happenned to inter when jose left doesn't mean its his fault. Again i'll repeat what i said just now, people are looking way too in depth about Jose mourinho and chelsea and what he does etc. What matters is he is a great manager, tactician, and man manager. Yes several of the squads he has managed in the past have had an older average age than us, but that is what he had to work with. Here he won't have that, and he will use what he has. You can't seriously be telling me that Jose Mourinho won't relish working with hazard mata and oscar because they are all really young, and lukaku and KDB etc. They are great players. He is a great manager. We all would love some stability particularly in the managerial department, but we have as much chance of that with Jose than anyone else.

It also doesn't have to be a comparison between 2005 Jose, to 2013 Jose, as the team has changed and its completely different. Success is building a title challenging team and one that competes on all fronts, and hopefully in a few years time more than that. We were 6th last season, are 3rd this season though that can easily change. It won't be deemed a failure if we don't win the premier league next season. We would all love it, but i think he can definitely get the most out of our team and bring some passion back.

[gary gordon 1,777]

I can't believe anybody here would actually be against Jose coming back. Its baffling actually..

Nobody gets shit done like the Special One...

If you're comparing his relationship with the players at Madrid, to the ones he'll manage here, please stop. The Madrid players are a bunch of overpaid, celebrities. They have enough talent to win every trophy but lack the passion to win. I have a feeling that's what Jose is sick of. Imagine having to deal with the likes of Ronaldo, Ramos and Benzema on a daily basis? Fuck that!

Come home Jose, to where your actually loved.

[karaclouds 47]

Nobody gets shit done like the Special One...

hahaha great phrase!!

[English Freak 456]

But to bring another point (which I have expressed repeatadly) its not just about how long you stay there (of course it has a part in it) buts its also the philosphy you use on how to shaoe the dressing room. Jouse Mourinho is football's personifcation of hedonism - he is there if you want instant success (providing you give him bug funds to buy players he wants, ususually those over the age of 25), but its what happens after he leaves, as it seems that he creates a dressing room that is difficult to manage becuase of the big egos he creates and as seen with Inter - filling the team with players in their 20s, past their prime but under him given long term contracts. Meaning its hard to get rid of them to replace them with younger players. As seen with us after years and years of trying to keep the status quo, we are going to have to go through a couple of years of major reconstruction to be a constant force in football. More so look at Inter, after a few years as club who could only get into the Europa league, they are only now starting reconsturct themselves and go into the right direction, replacing their older players that were given huge contracts under Jose with younger players who can take the club forward.

We already had our go with Jose's way of running the team, I sincerely believe trying to do it again will just not give us the same success.

I don't get why people keep using Inter Milan as an example for Jose.

Jose gave large contracts to older key players that performed well under him...but at the end of the day, the board should make the final decision about long term contracts for any given player..

Therefore, I think Inter's board has to take some of the blame regarding those contracts...I mean, if they were intent on building for the future, they could have disagreed with the contracts and not approve them.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

I don't get why people keep using Inter Milan as an example for Jose.

Jose gave large contracts to older key players that performed well under him...but at the end of the day, the board should make the final decision about long term contracts for any given player..

Therefore, I think Inter's board has to take some of the blame regarding those contracts...I mean, if they were intent on building for the future, they could have disagreed with the contracts and not approve them.

Well it shows that what ever he touches does not mean it will become a sweet rosy garden that will last for years and years. Which is what some people suggest happened after Jose left and give him credit for any future trophies we won under the context that "Jose built the team".

[manpe 10,861]

Talking about Lampard Terry situation, I actually think Jose is the best man to phase them out if they're still here when he comes. AVB failed at that because apparently he had trouble communicating properly and frankly they didn't think much of him. Jose wouldn't have this problem, he basically made them and I can see the old boys stepping aside silently under his leadership. All this "player power" nonsense would be put to rest. And no, I don't think he would foolishly make them "untouchables" again, I'm pretty sure he will be made aware that we're looking forward not backward.

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[Special Juan 27,432]

What is this so called 'Influence' that Lampard has?

[The Skipper 20,593]

Those who think that Jose will make the likes of Lampard, Terry, Cole etc. untouchables again just because of his previous tenure here look no further than Ricardo Carvalho's current situation at Real Madrid. Jose isn't stupid.

[BlueJewel 56]

Mourinho's Real Madrid has one of the youngest squads in la liga. Payers like Ozil, Khedira and Di Maria were all around Oscar and Hazard's age when Mourinho brought them to Real Madrid, he was playing them ahead of much more experienced and established players, like Kaka, Lassana Diarra etc. Many people are starting to notice Rafael Varane, Mourinho brought him in when he was just 18 to play for the first team and has started him in all the important matches Real Madrid has played this year ahead of Pepe and sometimes Ramos. In one clasico he started both Morata and Varane, their average age is just about 19!!!, it's a myth that Mourinho cannot work with young players, if you're good enough, you're old enough for him.

[Marvin123 484]

For the people that are convinced IF he came back we would win the league in his first season now is the time to get your money on it at 4/1

That's incredible odds

I must admit I have already put money on it

[Clevemayer 764]

How great it would be to feel that us against THEM feeling under him again, boy oh boy nice memorys of giving a shit about what they say and fuck em all with us being us and doing it our way... Winning it

[Spike 12,049]

What egos at Inter? Besides Sneijder, Ibrahimovic and Eto'o (Balotelli too I suppose) what major first team player had a large ego?

Surely not the likes of Cambiasso, Zanetti, Samuel, Cordoba, Maicon?

[Term-X 7,891]

Man-City won't sack Mancini, they are scared of becoming us.

[gary gordon 1,777]

He's a professional. The idea that he'd let the team tank is quite frankly absurd in my opinion.

He wouldn't would he? absurd you say?? My friend, your opinion is about as important as the Europa League trophy...

[The only place to be 11,313]

He wouldn't would he? absurd you say?? My friend, your opinion is about as important as the Europa League trophy...

Are you seriously saying he's trying to let the team tank by picking this team? Fucking ridiculous.