Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 the managers responsible for laying down the foundations for our success in the last 10 years were Hoddle , Gullit and RANIERI,,, I would bring Ranieri back with Hoddle as Director of Football and Gullit and Zola in charge of the Academyoi old timer....you forgot Luca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 whats the relevance of that question .. but my youngest son's favourite was Ray Wilkins and my eldest's was Joe Cole ,, BEFORE he became Judas ..My 2 favourites were Zola and Charlie Cooke ,, who were yours ,, of course I know your favourite manager isn't mine . I go back pre RomanBecause he keeps going down the fan boy route.I actually don't have a problem with anyone criticising Jose or even wanting him out (tbh purely for footballing reasons I'm shifting to that side of the fence aswell), but he has made a massive impact at this club and there will be some people that can't let go that easy (exactly the Same thing happened with Dalglish in 2012 at Liverpool).What I was going to ask him I'll ask you, if Zola came back as manager and didn't do well, would You hold back on the critiscm a bit compared to other managers due to the emotional connection you have with him? I know I would with him or any off my favroites, and how would you feel if you got branded a fanboy for that?My favroite players tho, Drogba, Terry and Zola, managers Mou and Vialli. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 oi old timer....you forgot LucaNo Luca did little the ones I mentioned did most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Because he keeps going down the fan boy route.I actually don't have a problem with anyone criticising Jose or even wanting him out (tbh purely for footballing reasons I'm shifting to that side of the fence aswell), but he has made a massive impact at this club and there will be some people that can't let go that easy (exactly the Same thing happened with Dalglish in 2012 at Liverpool).What I was going to ask him I'll ask you, if Zola came back as manager and didn't do well, would You hold back on the critiscm a bit compared to other managers due to the emotional connection you have with him? I know I would with him or any off my favroites, and how would you feel if you got branded a fanboy for that?My favroite players tho, Drogba, Terry and Zola, managers Mou and Vialli.I dont want Zola back as manager ,, I dont believe he would do well .. I am sure he would be excellent in the A cademy Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Jose Mourinho is one week from the sack, Football Insider sources understand.Roman Abramovich is ready to dismiss the Portugese next week if he does not turn around the teams catastrophic start to the season.Makes sense. After Stoke we have a 14-day break until next match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 No Luca did little the ones I mentioned did mostI would say that he improved on what Hoddle and Gullit bought to the party.We did win a league cup, ECWC and super cup then went on to finish 3rd in PL in his second season....highest finish since early 70's.I thought Luca done ok really and started the winning mentality before it went up another level Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It's pretty clear to me that he lost the dressing room and I admit that it's his fault. BUT, on the other hand, a football player's duty is to give his best for the club that pays him. Begovic, Terry, Cahill, Zouma, Ramires, Mikel, Falcao, Costa etc.'s duty is to play and give their best for Chelsea FC's good. They are not Mourinho's players, they are Chelsea FC's players. If there is someone who "would rather lose than win for Mourinho", then that someone needs to be expelled from this club because he is a total shame. You don't win for Mourinho, you win for those who pay you and for those who suffer all around the globe when your lazy overrated ass is not capable of showing some passion for this club. You must win for those whose weekend was a disaster because of your incompetence. It doesn't matter if Mourinho's sacked or not, I am totally dissapointed and disgusted with the players who are not giving their best these days. And it's very easy to notice who those players are. Eidur the Spider and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 1, 2015 RIP 'Little Horse' Ainsley Harriott, couris, Rmpr and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It'll be interesting if/when he gets sacked, if certain players start playing properly again. It's like when AVB (alright not the greatest manager or very popular) got sacked and the players were laughing a joking before a FA Cup game away at birmingham I believe. It irritated me, these players should give their all regardless of the manager imo. I guess football isn't that way any more. Cosmin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 RIP 'Little Horse' Holly hell I forgot about that. It was pretty hilarious, it was good old Jose! Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It'll be interesting if/when he gets sacked, if certain players start playing properly again. It's like when AVB (alright not the greatest manager or very popular) got sacked and the players were laughing a joking before a FA Cup game away at birmingham I believe. It irritated me, these players should give their all regardless of the manager imo. I guess football isn't that way any more. Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Polo7 3,496 Posted November 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 1, 2015 Fabio Capello wants to replace Jose Mourinho at Chelsea Former England boss wants Stamford Bridge rolehttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6721108/Fabio-Capello-wants-to-replace-Jose-Mourinho-at-Chelsea.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSunFootball-TheSunFootball-_-20151101-_-Sport-_-267619902-_-ImageandlinkHAHAHAHALol. Needed a laugh. Reddish-Blue, Henrique, Essien19 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.While I sympathised with Matic when it happened because others deserved it more, I didn't sympathise looking at it in isolation, he was utterly abysmal when he came on.If AVB did that to Lamps when the player power stories were growing there would have been a wankfest on how he's "standing up to the players". Eidur the Spider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Lol. Needed a laugh. if he says no we can ask Sven Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.I absolutely agree with you re: Matic. If you go back to the game thread from then I said how bad that was for him and embarrassing to see it as a big fan of his. I wouldn't blame him for not having confidence in the manager after that but, I would like to think that the club who pays his wages and the fans who back him, get his name on the back of their shirt, chant his name at games, means something too. I am aware of how difficult it must be, being unfairly out of favour when others at the time were playing worse, but at the end of the day I expect a man who earns big bucks to play for a team to be able to at least work hard. Side note: Not saying Matic doesn't work hard, just using him as an example. Cosmin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.Agreed, but they are supposed to be professionals. If you have a problem with the manager, go tell him. If he doesn't listen, go tell the board, the owner, whatever. But if you compromise the club's result in order to make the manager leave, then you are a traitor and you should be expelled as soon as possible from any club, not only Chelsea FC. There's no man bigger than the club, and that includes those "sensitive" pricks. Eidur the Spider and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Most of members on this forum want manager who is going to play attacking football. So my question is who is going to replace Mourinho if he get sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Holly hell I forgot about that. It was pretty hilarious, it was good old Jose! Yeah made me nostalgic - that's when I was 100% optimistic we would dominate for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted November 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 1, 2015 Agreed, but they are supposed to be professionals. If you have a problem with the manager, go tell him. If he doesn't listen, go tell the board, the owner, whatever. But if you compromise the club's result in order to make the manager leave, then you are a traitor and you should be expelled as soon as possible from any club, not only Chelsea FC. There's no man bigger than the club, and that includes those "sensitive" pricks. I don't think there deliberately sabotaging results, but if players are suffering emotionally, mentally or with relationships with colleges or anything it's not something that can be switched off, trust me i know that as much as anyone. Muzchap, zolayes, blues.bridge and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Most of members on this forum want manager who is going to play attacking football. So my question is who is going to replace Mourinho if he get sacked?Mate - seriously - Sam Allardyce would make us look like Barcelona right now!That's how bad it is!!! Roquila 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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