Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 poor? no. FFP compliant? borderline...We was doing good before those sells. The sell help us push us further into profit. But we was no way in risk of failing before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 We was doing good before those sells.The sell help us push us further into profit.But we was no way in risk of failing before.borderline. We have complied but not with flying colours. Anyways even without that its a shit ton of money to turn down for 3-4 choice CB and 3-4 choice AM... You don't see those deals everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 borderline. We have complied but not with flying colours. Anyways even without that its a shit ton of money to turn down for 3-4 choice CB and 3-4 choice AM... You don't see those deals everyday.You said it, 3rd choice. He was not value by Mourinho so makes sense to sell him. Sell them and buy players Mourinho value. Weather we can get his main target that's different. Like he might want koke, but the price is high and the player doesn't want to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 You said it, 3rd choice.He was not value by Mourinho so makes sense to sell him.Sell them and buy players Mourinho value. Weather we can get his main target that's different.Like he might want koke, but the price is high and the player doesn't want to come.I understand that I'm not saying Jose wasn't consulted, just not sure these acquisitions are up to him entirely. He did say that Mata's sale was left up to Juan and he chose to go, not Jose... Luiz, honestly for that sort of money we would be retards not to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I understand that I'm not saying Jose wasn't consulted, just not sure these acquisitions are up to him entirely. He did say that Mata's sale was left up to Juan and he chose to go, not Jose... Luiz, honestly for that sort of money we would be retards not to take it.Well they talk and decide what's the best target. It's no longer a force buy like Sheva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I understand that I'm not saying Jose wasn't consulted, just not sure these acquisitions are up to him entirely. He did say that Mata's sale was left up to Juan and he chose to go, not Jose... Luiz, honestly for that sort of money we would be retards not to take it.He also said managers lie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Well they talk and decide what's the best target.It's no longer a force buy like Sheva.Ya just not sure its all down to him anymore, really feel like the targets are presented to him but the ones he may want don't often make the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He also said managers lie...That is also a possibility. What are we left to go on then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Ya just not sure its all down to him anymore, really feel like the targets are presented to him but the ones he may want don't often make the cut.How is that?You should read what Mourinho said regarding Matic when trying to buy him. I go by what we have. And what we have is that Mourinho didn't fancy much these players (DL,Mata)that was good and popular before he came back. This shows that the board has giving Mourinho idea a lot of thought and try to work with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 How is that?You should read what Mourinho said regarding Matic when trying to buy him. I go by what we have. And what we have is that Mourinho didn't fancy much these players (DL,Mata)that was good and popular before he came back. This shows that the board has giving Mourinho idea a lot of thought and try to work with him. What did he say about Matic? David Luiz and Mata to me were no brainers because of the money. All I'm saying is I'm not sure Jose works with autonomy if that were the case we'd also would've got a striker in January. The Cesc thing is really puzzling, he only ticks two boxes for me, homegrown and excellent passer. You really think Cesc would be high on Jose's priority list? Anyway there is no way to prove it either way just wanted to hear some opinions on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 What did he say about Matic? David Luiz and Mata to me were no brainers because of the money. All I'm saying is I'm not sure Jose works with autonomy if that were the case we'd also would've got a striker in January. The Cesc thing is really puzzling, he only ticks two boxes for me, homegrown and excellent passer. You really think Cesc would be high on Jose's priority list? Anyway there is no way to prove it either way just wanted to hear some opinions on it.Just like there's no way to prove that Roman sets up all the tactic behind doors, and Mourinho is just a puppet? Seriously, this is just hogwash. If Mourinho felt like he was not being heard and being forced upon he would have left. He left before because of this, and he came back because the owner realize his mistakes and respect his opinion now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Just like there's no way to prove that Roman sets up all the tactic behind doors, and Mourinho is just a puppet? Seriously, this is just hogwash. If Mourinho felt like he was not being heard and being forced upon he would have left. He left before because of this, and he came back because the owner realize his mistakes and respect his opinion now. I think there is a lot of evidence of the contrary actually. But again its all open for debate... I'm not drawing hard lines I'm just looking at the evidence and it looks weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think there is a lot of evidence of the contrary actually. But again its all open for debate... I'm not drawing hard lines I'm just looking at the evidence and it looks weird.What looks weird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 What looks weird?That Jose would sanction a move for Cesc, that no striker was brought in at the bequest of Jose until nowish.... That he wanted Ashley and Lamps to stay apparently, and they're gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 That Jose would sanction a move for Cesc, that no striker was brought in at the bequest of Jose until nowish.... That he wanted Ashley and Lamps to stay apparently, and they're gone.Whats wrong with Cesc? And don't come with that bullshit of not a jose type of players, cause neither it was Ozil. Ozil is even more lazier than Fiberglass! The striker situation was all Mourinho and the club fault for being stupid in trying to chase Rooney. Wasted all that time to get Eto'o. Then Mourinho let Lukaku go on loan. Even though Lukaku ask to go on loan, Mourinho has the last say. Just like he did with Ba, in which he wanted to go to Arsenal and he stop it. Cole and Lamps have been presented with offers but they have refuse. I don't see nothing "weird" here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Whats wrong with Cesc? And don't come with that bullshit of not a jose type of players, cause neither it was Ozil. Ozil is even more lazier than Fiberglass! The striker situation was all Mourinho and the club fault for being stupid in trying to chase Rooney. Wasted all that time to get Eto'o. Then Mourinho let Lukaku go on loan. Even though Lukaku ask to go on loan, Mourinho has the last say. Just like he did with Ba, in which he wanted to go to Arsenal and he stop it. Cole and Lamps have been presented with offers but they have refuse. They don't exactly see eye to eye... And yes Cesc doesn't strike me as a Jose type player at all.He also wanted a striker in January and was told no.On Ash and Lamps you could be right... still weird, both seemed keen to return. AnywayI got your opinion and its well noted I'm still a little greyish on this stuff... I highly doubt Jose has autonomy though, seems like a committee making the consensus pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Mourinho wanted Cole and Lampard to remain at Chelsea. Board and Roman decided otherwise.Don't like where this is going.yeah... seeing how much Mou used Cole is a testament to that... Lamps was more used, but that was only because imo the alternative was bad.I think Mou respects and really likes a lot both of them, but he seems to be fairly aware that they're past their best years and that we need players in their best and who will approach their best in a couple of seasons, not the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 yeah... seeing how much Mou used Cole is a testament to that... Lamps was more used, but that was only because imo the alternative was bad.I think Mou respects and really likes a lot both of them, but he seems to be fairly aware that they're past their best years and that we need players in their best and who will approach their best in a couple of seasons, not the opposite.Good point. could've been saving face amongst the supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 They don't exactly see eye to eye... And yes Cesc doesn't strike me as a Jose type player at all.He also wanted a striker in January and was told no.On Ash and Lamps you could be right... still weird, both seemed keen to return. AnywayI got your opinion and its well noted I'm still a little greyish on this stuff... I highly doubt Jose has autonomy though, seems like a committee making the consensus pick.After I told you not to tell me that José type of player bullshit and you still give it.... I guess you don't read a word I said then. Especially when ozil is even worse then fabregas in lazy attitude and he was an important player for Mourinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 After I told you not to tell me that José type of player bullshit and you still give it.I guess you don't read a word I said then. Especially when ozil is even worse then fabregas in lazy attitude.Where did Ozil play? Where are you projecting Cesc to play? do the positions carry the same sort of tactical acumen?Was Jose the guy who signed Ozil or was it the director? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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