The Mourinho Thread

[Hutcho 8,443]

Now, it's, he is only the way, and roman has promised 4 new toys for him to play with lol.

It has to be chelsea surely.

If not this could be the biggest troll in all of football.

Just say it Jose. It would make this season 10 times better, and worth enduring the "rafa months".

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Well if Mourinho does indeed come back, an overhaul of the team is certain to happen, and we need quality on virtually all positions, so the rumored list makes sense to a degree.

Pepe is tied until 2016 with Real, and he's not gonna go for less than 30M Euros, same thing with Moutinho, that's 60.

Di Maria's contract runs until 2018, and he wont go for less than 40M, that's 100 already.

Now put Falcao in the equation and we're looking at 160,000,000 euros and thats a conservative estimate.

Stop FIFA.

[The Mak 4,459]

Well if Mourinho does indeed come back, an overhaul of the team is certain to happen, and we need quality on virtually all positions, so the rumored list makes sense to a degree.

Pepe is tied until 2016 with Real, and he's not gonna go for less than 30M Euros, same thing with Moutinho, that's 60.

Di Maria's contract runs until 2018, and he wont go for less than 40M, that's 100 already.

Now put Falcao in the equation and we're looking at 160,000,000 euros and thats a conservative estimate.

That is a fucking insane number to generate, no offense, out of your arse.

We didn't even spend that much when we won the champions league. If you think all of those marque priced players will sign in the same window, you're either crazy or you play too much fifa. We'd be lucky to get one player over £30m I feel. Big bucks might be spent on a DLP (most likely) and a striker (permitting Torres leaves) if we're lucky. The rest would be £10-15 buys. And all of this is permitting we even qualify for the CL.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Well if Mourinho does indeed come back, an overhaul of the team is certain to happen, and we need quality on virtually all positions, so the rumored list makes sense to a degree.

Pepe is tied until 2016 with Real, and he's not gonna go for less than 30M Euros, same thing with Moutinho, that's 60.

Di Maria's contract runs until 2018, and he wont go for less than 40M, that's 100 already.

Now put Falcao in the equation and we're looking at 160,000,000 euros and thats a conservative estimate.

Here's what I think...

It's common knowledge that Moutinho's going for £20m, Pepe would probably go for the same or less, since he doesn't even start for Real anymore. With Bale on the market Real might be looking to use a Di Maria transfer as a means of funds, I think if we were to get him we're looking at £20m-£30m. Falcao would cost around £40m-£50m so that comes down to around £100m-£110m - not to mention that we could be selling players as well (Torres, Essien could bring in around £20m-£30m?).

I don't think we'll even get all of them but realistically speaking we should be able to afford it if we go about it in the right manner.

[Hutcho 8,443]

But I highly doubt we would get di maria unless we pay way over the top for him... Pepe, maybe, but i am not overly keen on him. Falcao is likely, and mountiho is a fair assumption.

[Sovieticus 743]

Where's KHEDIRA KHEDIRA KHEDIRAAAAA?

[The Mak 4,459]

On another note...GET IN THERE JOSE!!

I'm not usually one to get carried away, but this is not even hints anymore, he may as well have written 'blue is the colour' on his forehead!

I'm particularly excited because I bet a friend while RDM was still in charge that Jose will come back to the Bridge next season or the season after!

[Behemoth 266]

I didn't say I wanted to spend that much, I said thats the market value of those listed players.

[Azpinator 2,325]

Out of those 4, the only one I would be excited about is Moutinho... And I would rather have Alex back instead of Pepe (eww).

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

We can't afford 100-120M this summer, no way.

[The Skipper 20,609]

We can't afford 100-120M this summer, no way.

We can, quite easily too.

[Behemoth 266]

I think we're gonna spend at least 80.

[mediator 2,026]

Marin, Kakuta, Bruma, Torres, ...

And we will probably sell some others players currently on loan

[11Drogba 2,000]

I don't think he will bring anyone from Real. Signing only Falcao and Moutinho would make a huge difference anyway.

[The Skipper 20,609]

@Bir_CFC, I posted this in the Roman thread:

I'm not really a financial expert but I'll try and explain; many people really misunderstand the concept of FFP. One must remember that the likes of Malouda, Benayoun, Hilario, Paulo, and possibly Lampard as it stands are being moved on so there will be additional space in the wage budget. Wages aren't really that big of a concern - if they could potentially shift out Fernando for around £15m-£20m then even better as this would free up a lot in wages as well as practically paying off the rest of his amortisation fee - but I'm not banking on that.

We are officially allowed to go €45m in the minus with FFP because Roman can cover us, that's the maximum he's allowed to cover us for. That works out to around £38m. Let's for arguments sake say we sign Schurrle (£20m), Moutinho (£25m) and Lewandowski (£25m) on 5 year contracts - this rounds up to £70m in transfer fees. 70/5 = £14m in transfer fees for the year - whilst also having freed up initial space in our wage budget with the release of former players, we could realistically afford it. We'd still have a leeway of £24m.

So, in this scenario for example, we spend £100m/£120m on players and give them all 5 year contracts; it would collectively show up as (£25m) max on our balance sheet due to amortisation.

Not to mention that stuff like academy fees, managerial payoffs etc. don't count in FFP - add that to the fact that we actually made profit this year and you'll soon realise that we do have quite a bit to play around with.

[Behemoth 266]

I don't understand any plausible way we could head into the next season and challenge for ANYTHING without buying a quality defender and an actual striker. I love Ba, but God bless him, he's not the solution, especially not alone.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

@Bir_CFC, I posted this in the Roman thread:

So, in this scenario for example, we spend £100m/£120m on players and give them all 5 year contracts; it would collectively show up as (£25m) max on our balance sheet due to amortisation.

Not to mention that stuff like academy fees, managerial payoffs etc. don't count in FFP - add that to the fact that we actually made profit this year and you'll soon realise that we do have quite a bit to play around with.

What you're forgetting is that our transfers from previous years are also still showing up. Torres, Hazard and what not are still being amortised and that's probably 20-25M on it's own too.

And you have to help me understand how we can go 45M in the red and get Roman to save us? FFP is all about revenues and expenses, Roman can inject equity and take off debt but how will be affect the revenues and expenses?

[Waterfall 893]

Summer of Mourinho, Moutinho, Varane and Shaw would be dream although Varane seems highly unlikely

[The Skipper 20,609]

What you're forgetting is that our transfers from previous years are also still showing up. Torres, Hazard and what not are still being amortised and that's probably 20-25M on it's own too.

And you have to help me understand how we can go 45M in the red and get Roman to save us? FFP is all about revenues and expenses, Roman can inject equity and take off debt but how will be affect the revenues and expenses?

We posted profit this year - and that includes all amortisations of the players we've signed already, our previous transfers are included in there already. The FFP rules instigate that for the next two seasons a club can go €45M in the red if they have an external source that covers them - this amount will be reduced over the years but it's still there for us if we need cover.

Also, what many people tend to forget is that FFP does not count any contract signed before June 2010 - so essentially, on our FFP balance sheet we're probably around £10m-20m up if you discount all the wages of the likes of all those signed before that. If you add in the fact that you can discount extenuating circumstances such as managers being sacked (as it's a one off payment) and the fact that FFP doesn't count academy costs either you'll soon realise that we're absolutely fine when it comes to FFP. We've got money to spend.

If you're interested in further reading there's an excellent article here which is quite dated (published last year) but still very relevant - it explains our situation regarding FFP excellently.

There is no need to worry much about FFP, the club have done a good job regarding that.