The Mourinho Thread

[Rhino's Skin 972]

40 million again for stones. It would be madness to go for him again. Wait till end of window and lose him. He certainly is not going to move with Euro's in summer. Better we sign a defender Whu can join us in the first week of Jan

or recall Ake, get Hector in, etc etc and pay loan fees back to clubs.

Mourinho has nothing to lose ( well, except his job but we will brush over trivial matters like that ). Teams are getting at us with pace and we need pace to combat them

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I see some posters are touting Bielsa as a possible replacement.

Bollix to that.....would rather have old 'arry for a few months than him

edit. just seen that Swansea might be in for Bielsa - bullet dodged in the long run

[bellion 170]

or recall Ake, get Hector in, etc etc and pay loan fees back to clubs.

Mourinho has nothing to lose ( well, except his job but we will brush over trivial matters like that ). Teams are getting at us with pace and we need pace to combat them

Not with Hector. He's playing in a lower league amd won't even qualify to be on the subs' bench.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Not with Hector. He's playing in a lower league amd won't even qualify to be on the subs' bench.

Watford and Bournemouth players were playing in a lower league last season and seem to be doing alright.

But you cant say promote youth in that case because U21, U19 is way below championship level

[bellion 170]

Mou's job is to be able to motivate the players and get the best out of them but he is failing to do so. People caa talk as much as they want about his past succes as to why he should stay in charge but nothing in his past suggest he is any good at managing a club in the long term. In fact his past suggest the opposite.

We have to start building an identity and philosophy and choose players/managers who actually will help in providing that! And i don't think Mou is the man for that and neither are a lot of our players

My thoughts exactly and thankis for putting this across so succintly.

I never thought for a second that Mourinho would wish to stay for a long time at any football club as his tantrums, defensive tactics and insistence on buying marque players every season doesnt seat well with a long-term vision of a team which plays attractive football with a good mixture of home grown youth and experience. It may be a tad idealistic but Mourinho does not even bother to attempt any moves to realize this.

[bellion 170]

Watford and Bournemouth players were playing in a lower league last season and seem to be doing alright.

But you cant say promote youth in that case because U21, U19 is way below championship level

Point noted but in reality neither lower league nor youth team players are getting much of a chance anyway.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Point noted but in reality neither lower league nor youth team players are getting much of a chance anyway.

but as I pointed out in reply to post saying we should pay out 40m for Stones or other defenders.......Mourinho now has nothing to lose by bringing back players such as Ake who are already Chelsea

[Muzchap 8,966]

but as I pointed out in reply to post saying we should pay out 40m for Stones or other defenders.......Mourinho now has nothing to lose by bringing back players such as Ake who are already Chelsea

Agree ? and players that might actually want to play and give 100% on the pitch

Zola as manager - just won't work for me, he's too much of a legend and if they treated him like RdM I would have serious issues

Think Mou is here until summer, so the players need to knuckle down and ensure we avoid relegation and go again next season with a new manager

[kmk108 1,186]

If Mourinho is going this season, the board need to just get it over with to get a new manager in time to get the transfer targets worked out.

If he's staying, they need to figure out what players are leaving in January and get it sorted out for the last games of the year.

Either way, we aren't far off from knowing what the second half of the season is going to look like.

[nullabletype 987]

Agree and players that might actually want to play and give 100% on the pitch

Zola as manager - just won't work for me, he's too much of a legend and if they treated him like RdM I would have serious issues

Think Mou is here until summer, so the players need to knuckle down and ensure we avoid relegation and go again next season with a new manager

And then we'll probably sack the new one in a few seasons and the same mob on here calling for José's head now will cry about the long term and the lack of managerial consistency.

[bellion 170]

but as I pointed out in reply to post saying we should pay out 40m for Stones or other defenders.......Mourinho now has nothing to lose by bringing back players such as Ake who are already Chelsea

Much as I like to see Ake and the best loan prospects being played on the pitch, Mourinho will never do that.

Expect the same turgid tactics and the same under-performing 14 or so players at the Bridge this weekend.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Much as I like to see Ake and the best loan prospects being played on the pitch, Mourinho will never do that.

Expect the same turgid tactics and the same under-performing 14 or so players at the Bridge this weekend.

We were specifically talking about the January transfer window.

[Henrique 9,133]

The whole situation is pretty cofunsing to me. Its hard to believe the board is quiet about the whole situation. To be honest, in any other big club in the world Mourinho would be axed at this point, despite his CV. You can look around in football history, and even succesful managers were fired after some pretty bad results, but to be honest in recent years I can't even remember a big european team with such performance.

I wili say it again, the board is looking a bunch of amateur of don't know what they are doing. It seems they don't want to look foolish to fire Mourinho 4 montsh after giving him a pointless contract extention, so they want to show everyone they did the right thing.

We all know some of big people making decisions are Roman's friends who are not football people, like Gravoskaya woman, who, according to reports, was the one who brought Mourinho back and the one who gave him a contract extention when he still had 2 more years left in his contract.

I remember that I was shocked when I heard the news back in august. I mean, Mourinho signed a 4 years contract back in 2013, why after 2 years you would just give him two more years? Whats the point of the first contract? Mourinho is not a player, his character is not for every club taste, clubs just don't buy managers from other clubs, so its really hard to understad the point of the contract extention, since its really to imagine he would leave before the end of the first contract, specially if he had the full support of the board and if he really loves Chelsea.

Now we have a another situation. Day after day is pretty clear Mourinho is a dead man walking. Mourinho will get the axe at some point, and its a question of "when", instead of "if". So, the board the making the whole thing difficult for them day after day, because when the gets the axe, it will be too late to save the season (actually its already too late), then the big question will be asked: "why wait so long to make the right thing?".

I remember whe City sacked Mark Hughes and the whole british press pictured them as the bad guys, I remember during a press conference when someone from City board was asked about the situation, he replied that they would do everything they could to make the new City project succesful. They hired Mancini and they won PL after decades. A decent board is not one that make deacisions to praise the fans in the easiest ways, or to look nice to press. A decent board is one that is not afraid to make tough decisions.

A decent board is one that understand there is a big difference between stability and keeping the same manager as long as possible. A decent board is one that understand a club success can't rely in one single man.

I said earlier I feel confused because its really hard to believe the board still believe Mourinho will turn things around, because at this point he just can't turn things around, unless they accept the top 10 is an acceptable goal as some Mourinho fans are suggesting in this topic. Perhaps they are just waiting the end of the season because they already know who's next boss is. But considering Avran Grant was give a 3 years contract (no, he was never an interim manager, he was given the full job with a long contract) and was fired after reaching UCL final, probably it means the Board actually doesn't know what they are doing and are paralysed by this awful season.

[sekar_blue4ever 1]

Much as I like to see Ake and the best loan prospects being played on the pitch, Mourinho will never do that.

Expect the same turgid tactics and the same under-performing 14 or so players at the Bridge this weekend.

No Way he's gone play the youth when his pride,job & legacy is at stake. In all likelihood he will buy atleast 2 big players 1 defender and another striker/cm maybe both if Falcao( who was bought to help out Jorge Mendes as he is about to be bankrupt) leaves.

I expect this to happen unless the board have already decided to replace him at end of season

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

I don't understand how anyone can claim sacking Mourinho would destroy our stability. A manager's longevity at the club has nothing to do with the stability of that club. I also don't understand the obsession with having a Fergie-like manager. The longevity of a manager at a club does not guarantee success.

If we had a separate footballing identity as a club like Barcelona or even as someone said Southampton, changing managers every 3 years wouldn't be a problem as long as we signed managers who can continue with our philosophy. Whether it is attractive and attacking Football with an eye on the development of youth or counter-attacking football focused on buying players that are already world class, it is important for the board to understand they have to pick a philosophy and stick with it and realize you can't have it both ways.

I feel our club still hasn't learned its lesson. I see rumours that indicate the likes of Simeone and Ancelotti as possible replacements. Even if it has the slightest truth to it, it shows they don't know where they want the club headed. It shows that they are focusing on the most trendy managerial options rather than focusing on those who can satisfy our needs of creating stability within the footballing philosophy of our club.