CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm not saying it makes me some special authority on the matter. Your arrogance infuriates me beyond words.I visit the Bridge 15 times a year and that shit isn't cheap as I keep saying. So when I arrive I want to see good football.Again I will spell it out for you as I think yu need the help.I AM OVER THE MOON THAT WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE DOUBLE AND I WILL CELEBRATE AS HARD AS THE NEXT CHELSEA SUPPORTER. WE HAVE OUR PLAYERS AND JOSE TO THANK FOR THAT.But I still want to see good fucking football when I stand and sing my heart out in the terraces!!!Im done with repeating myself to you now. If you wasnt such a jumped up little shit I would debate it with ya but theres no helping some!We last won at Loftus Road in 1996. Shut up and be happy.THE reason we won't play like that at Arsenal is because a) their pitch is much wider and they have nowhere near the midfield steel to shut us out of the game like QPR did. That is literally the reason we struggled, not even Barcelona could play good football against such a team. Well, we showed them that in 2004/05 when we must have had the strongest midfield in the Champions League.Plus the atmosphere was severely hostile. Doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Anyway, I'm not really worried. United might open up, we're playing at home, in terms of entertainment this could be the game of the season, and we might well turn in a tremendous display and win, add to that 3 points no matter how at the Emirates and everyone will be shouting how good this side has been this season. As usual, opinions change very quickly in football, no one to blame really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If Arsenal played the way they are now from January 1st, they will be sniffing the title.If City were playing at their absolute best, the title will be theirs.If we drew with QPR yesterday and Stoke, more pressure would have gone to Chelsea as United and Arsenal would have smelled a lot of blood from us.We are lucky. Full stop. Yes, NONE of those scenarios above happened because we were lucky. We have nothing to show in the 2nd half of the season except that Swansea game that we are strong and mean business.Almost every Chelsea game in 2015, I wasn't comfortable at watching them. Didn't score more than 3 goals in a game in 2015, bar Spuds and Swansea.Do Arsenal have to be like 3 points behind us before we start playing well again or something?Lack of dominance?We haven't lost since Jan 1.I don't see how you can consider the win at Stoke lucky. We played lovely football and looked the better side the whole match, wonder goal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,284 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 We last won at Loftus Road in 1996. Shut up and be happy.THE reason we won't play like that at Arsenal is because a) their pitch is much wider and they have nowhere near the midfield steel to shut us out of the game like QPR did. That is literally the reason we struggled, not even Barcelona could play good football against such a team. Well, we showed them that in 2004/05 when we must have had the strongest midfield in the Champions League.Plus the atmosphere was severely hostile. Doesn't help.Dude, I'm not just talking about the game against Q.P.R. But yea those factors did play a part in game. To be fair our boys have played a relentless amount of football this season and they are obviously tired. The sharpness in our play at the beginning of pur season was fantastic. Jose's lack of trust in the rest of the squad has led to us playing tired football. Then thats why I don't understand why he sold the likes of KdB and Schurlle. CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If Arsenal played the way they are now from January 1st, they will be sniffing the title.If City were playing at their absolute best, the title will be theirs.If we drew with QPR yesterday and Stoke, more pressure would have gone to Chelsea as United and Arsenal would have smelled a lot of blood from us.We are lucky. Full stop. Yes, NONE of those scenarios above happened because we were lucky. We have nothing to show in the 2nd half of the season except that Swansea game that we are strong and mean business.Almost every Chelsea game in 2015, I wasn't comfortable at watching them. Didn't score more than 2 goals in a game in 2015, bar Spuds (still lost), Hull (goalkeeping error) and Swansea.Do Arsenal have to be like 3 points behind us before we start playing well again or something?So 11 game unbeaten is all luck according to you, 5 straight away wins is all luck.Chelsea have not looked like losing in most games this year - no doubt the play has been disjointed due to Fab, Oscar and Matic's drop in form but branding about luck all over the place is ridiculous. Luck is Man utd's win against Arsenal earlier in the season, when they had 1 shot on target and 2 goals after getting dominated for 89 minutes. darrus and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm not saying it makes me some special authority on the matter. Your arrogance infuriates me beyond words.I visit the Bridge 15 times a year and that shit isn't cheap as I keep saying. So when I arrive I want to see good football.Again I will spell it out for you as I think yu need the help.I AM OVER THE MOON THAT WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE DOUBLE AND I WILL CELEBRATE AS HARD AS THE NEXT CHELSEA SUPPORTER. WE HAVE OUR PLAYERS AND JOSE TO THANK FOR THAT.But I still want to see good fucking football when I stand and sing my heart out in the terraces!!!Im done with repeating myself to you now. If you wasnt such a jumped up little shit I would debate it with ya but theres no helping some!So why even make mention to how many times you've been to the bridge like its some badge of honour? I can GUARANTEE you the amount you paid to see you 15 games pales in comparison to the amount I had to pay out to see 3 games. Like I've said many times over, everyone wants to see beautiful football, the difference between you and the rest of us is we don't demand it because we go to the game to watch it. Like you have some sort of entitlement... What if we're just not capable of playing that way are you gonna stop going? If your answer is no then shut the fuck up and get behind the team! They're running on fumes is that not clear to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Dude, I'm not just talking about the game against Q.P.R. But yea those factors did play a part in game. To be fair our boys have played a relentless amount of football this season and they are obviously tired. The sharpness in our play at the beginning of pur season was fantastic.Jose's lack of trust in the rest of the squad has led to us playing tired football. Then thats why I don't understand why he sold the likes of KdB and Schurlle.So you can say this yet still demand the type of football that leads to scintillating play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Lol? And what about our yesterday's game? QPR didn't deserve to lose just like Arsenal. We also had like 2 shots on target all game.Difference is Arsenal deserved to win that game. Chelsea v QPR was a boring 0-0 game, but they made a crucial mistake at the end to throw the points away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Considering the fact that QPR dried the pitch on purpose, and played with high physical impact on midfield, breaking each one of our high tempo plays by fouls makes me thing that those scums deserved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan92 217 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't watch football so a trophy cabinet i'll never see has a toy in it for tourists to goggle at Hold on. Then why don't you watch teams that play the style you want to watch? You would be welcome at Arse, Liverpool, and City forums.If you don't care about Chelsea's success in the arena that matters over the long term, what is the reason you are debating this on our forum? Chelsea Legend 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oh they deserved it, I'm not arguing about that. But the game had 0-0 written all over it, we were SO close to believing we are finally going to drop points, until a goalkeeping error (again) from Green saved us.How can you NOT call that luck?Luck? please, its winning games like these that define us to be premier league champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't see much of a difference. QPR deserved a point. The bottom line is, Arsenal and QPR didn't deserve to LOSE.2 shots on target on BOTH games from the teams that didn't deserve to win.Your original point was Chelsea are the luckiest team in PL, turning a 0-0 game to 3 points is hardly massively lucky. It's totally different if QPR had dominated the game and somehow lost to a last minute goal.This is the same for all the other games you mentioned, no one did a Tottenham on us and still ended up losing. Chelsea were always in the game and just waited for a mistake to pounce and get the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oh they deserved it, I'm not arguing about that. But the game had 0-0 written all over it, we were SO close to believing we are finally going to drop points, until a goalkeeping error (again) from Green saved us.How can you NOT call that luck?I prefer to hail Hazard, Oscar and Cesc's composure. What I'm definitely sure of, is that 12 months ago, we surely would've lost this game, so yeah, 5 straight away wins ain't luck, really. Now we lacked luck against a lot of opponents, United, Southampton X 2 and Burnley, overall, we didn't get more or less thatn what we deserved. Sheva. and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Why are you denying it wasn't luck? It WAS. If Fergie was still around, and United were 3 points ahead of us but about to drop points played way beyond poor, but scored in Fergie time you wouldn't call that freaking luck?!Fergie spoke about that in the recent christmas interview, it isn't luck, it's a state of mind, that's what champions are made of. Now excuse me, but if u consider that 8 or 7 of Fergie's PL titles were luck, sorry, but there's no point in debating anymore. TheOneChan95 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oh yeah, and the exemple people are stating here, 09/10, weren't we lucky ? Drogba at Old Trafford ? Gerrard's backpass ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I hope you dont consider my criticism of our football as a lack of respect directed towards Jose.No, I was just saying why the people tend to jump on "jose bashers" is because of disrespectful comments like him being told to fuck himself half an hour before a cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oi. Stop putting words in my mouth. I did not imply that all Fergie's PL title wins were luck. :/I was just giving you an example, similar to what is happening with Chelsea here. No fan outside of Chelsea would say after QPR, "That wasn't luck." We didn't play to our strengths, there was nothing happening in that game, 0-0 is gonna happen, then a costly mistake from the goalkeeper out of nowhere to give us 3 points. It was a gift that we would gladly take.It wasn't because we were stronger than QPR in that game. It wasn't because we showed a moment of or a lot of brilliance (we were spineless). It was because we were lucky to get a gift.You can say the cop out answer - "That's the stuff of champions", and yes, champions need these things to happen, but for you guys to DENY we weren't lucky yesterday, and against Stoke and Hull, then we have a problem because you guys are willing to cope with these terrible performances and turning a blind eye.Yesterday was lucky but Stoke? please, that was a totally convincing performance which was only made a contest by the flukiest goal of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tomo 21,754 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Now I would have agreed with you, IF Green didn't make that mistake. You can't keep on relying on people's mistakes. That's why I'm saying we are lucky, because if it wasn't for that silly error from Green, 0-0 would have been the final score. It wasn't because of a moment of brilliance, it was because of a mistake.No one would have expected Green to do that. No one. And that's why we were lucky.Keepers and defenders cock up clearances all the time, when Green did that we still had a lot to do before scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 We can draw all our games and still say "unbeaten since Jan 1st". That's not the point. I'm talking about our performances. Yes it's better to win poorly than to lose awesomely like Arsenal, but this is getting way too consistent now.We were comfortable against Stoke, but we didn't blow them away. We didn't put the game to end. We were one mistake, one breakaway away from a draw. When they put on Crouch, I was scared. I shouldn't be. And I'll say this again, if Costa didn't pull a hammy, Remy wouldn't have scored the winning goal because he would have stayed on the bench.And don't forget about Hull too, goalkeeping error leading to our winning goal.How do you know Costa wouldn't have scored a hat trick vs Stoke? And against QPR for that matter. For the short time he was on, he looked dangerous.And who knows, Jose might have played both for most of the game had they both been fit enough.The fact is, sometimes we've not looked like winning, but we've never looked like LOSING. And while against QPR, we did deserve to win. We deserved to win because they dried out the pitch. Because they were so abusive. Because they threw coins, litter, and lighters at our players. Because Charlie Austin and Barton were trying to wind our players up the whole match. Against another side with a goal scoring output rather than Didier we would have looked much better.I'd go as far to say that playing Solanke or Brown would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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