Fernando 6,585 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Brilliant job so far, boss. . He's delivered on his promise so far concerning the "evolution" of Chelsea. We are playing with fantastic style and swagger, imposing our will on teams home or away. The contrast of our play in this same fixture last season, where we defended very deep and played on the counter attack for 90 mins and today was there for all too see. We destroyed them this time. I was admittedly concerned after the City game but right now I have nothing but praise for Jose and the way he has us playing football. 21 games unbeaten and we carry on.You mentioned City, this is Schalke.If you think we will play like this against Real Madrid, and Bayern your in for a shock. And to be fair, against the like of these we will have a higher chance of progressing via defending and counter attacking then to try to outplay them. People will criticize him because we will play like a "Small" team but it will be the smart thing to do. Cholo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Jose is creating his masterpiece right here and now and we are very lucky he's doing it with our club Roquila, Barbara, bababoom and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Unbeaten Chelsea are leading the way with style, flair and substance... here are the stats that prove they are No 1http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2850121/Unbeaten-Chelsea-leading-way-style-flair-substance-stats-prove-number-one.html iceman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Jose is creating his masterpiece right here and now and we are very lucky he's doing it with our clubWe have a good balance team now. Yet I still will feel our defense is our weakest link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 We have a good balance team now. Yet I still will feel our defense is our weakest link. It is but he will figure that out without a doubt.The thing that makes me very excited is that some of our key players are still so young but yet they perform fantastic on the very top level.I wonder what it will give when they are hitting their prime, did the future ever look more blue than it does now?He's really creating something very special here imo. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Suspect Mourinho will have taken 'extra joy' from beating Schalke yesterday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Suspect Mourinho will have taken 'extra joy' from beating Schalke yesterday...Thought so too. Was it just me or did he seem quite cold towards Di Matteo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 We have a good balance team now. Yet I still will feel our defense is our weakest link. It is. I know we won 5-0 but I don't like how we back off and allow the opposition so close to our box. When defending we often had a 6-man defence which is all good and well but when the opposition are so close to goal anything can happen. Watching Atletico now just reminds me of how ridiculously good they are at pressing. The opposition hardly every get near their box and that way you don't have to worry about lapses in concentration, a moment of brilliance or a fluky deflection, etc. They also still maintain a big attacking threat and they're hardly every pinned back (exception was the end of the CL final) unlike us.In contrast our pressing is much more localised which can be more easily bypassed and that leaves big gaps in the middle. In comparison to Atletico, our defensive system against the biggest teams relies too much on luck imo which is what consistently lets us down in the CL semis. lionsden and Heisenberg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It is. I know we won 5-0 but I don't like how we back off and allow the opposition so close to our box. When defending we often had a 6-man defence which is all good and well but when the opposition are so close to goal anything can happen. Watching Atletico now just reminds me of how ridiculously good they are at pressing. The opposition hardly every get near their box and that way you don't have to worry about lapses in concentration, a moment of brilliance or a fluky deflection, etc. They also still maintain a big attacking threat and they're hardly every pinned back (exception was the end of the CL final) unlike us.In contrast our pressing is much more localised (2v2 usually) which can be more easily bypassed and that leaves big gaps in the middle. In comparison to Atletico, our defensive system against the biggest teams relies too much on luck imo which is what consistently lets us down in the CL semis.Hmm. While I also like a good pressing game you (and a lot of others on here) need to realise that if you press too hard you will leave gaps in behind that good teams will exploit in their sleep.There are pros and cons to both standing off and high tempo pressing, you need to be adaptable and be able to use whichever is needed at the time, which I feel like we are.Maybe we should start pressing earlier on but it's not like our sitting off is costing us at all. We haven't conceded more than 1 goal in a game since the 13th September. That's 2 and a half months ago. We've played some good teams in that time too (Schalke & Arsenal at home and Man City, Everton, Man Utd, Schalke and Liverpool away).While we might not be keeping as many clean sheets as we might like, we should just accept that our style of defending (standing off that little bit longer, drawing the opposition onto us by giving them a sniff of our goal) is helping our attack and go forward ability. We've scored more than once in every game but 2 in the league this year (those 2 being both away games in Manchester where we scored 1 apiece), and that's just fantastic. Part of that has to be down to our ability to draw the opposition out of their defensive positions by allowing them more space on the outside of our box.It's just a thought, but seems logical enough to my mind. We wanted a more attacking outlook to the team and we have got it, albeit at the sacrifice of a little bit of defensive solidity. EMK, kellzfresh and Tomo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hmm. While I also like a good pressing game you (and a lot of others on here) need to realise that if you press too hard you will leave gaps in behind that good teams will exploit in their sleep.There are pros and cons to both standing off and high tempo pressing, you need to be adaptable and be able to use whichever is needed at the time, which I feel like we are.Maybe we should start pressing earlier on but it's not like our sitting off is costing us at all. We haven't conceded more than 1 goal in a game since the 13th September. That's 2 and a half months ago. We've played some good teams in that time too (Schalke & Arsenal at home and Man City, Everton, Man Utd, Schalke and Liverpool away).While we might not be keeping as many clean sheets as we might like, we should just accept that our style of defending (standing off that little bit longer, drawing the opposition onto us by giving them a sniff of our goal) is helping our attack and go forward ability. We've scored more than once in every game but 2 in the league this year (those 2 being both away games in Manchester where we scored 1 apiece), and that's just fantastic. Part of that has to be down to our ability to draw the opposition out of their defensive positions by allowing them more space on the outside of our box.It's just a thought, but seems logical enough to my mind. We wanted a more attacking outlook to the team and we have got it, albeit at the sacrifice of a little bit of defensive solidity.But we do leave lots of gaps because of our disjointed pressing. For example Matic will press high on his own, get bypassed and leave huge gaps behind. How often do you see Atletico leaving gaps between their defence and midfield? They are unbelievably good at their pressing game and in comparison we are very disorganised even though we have the players for it in Azpi, Luis, Willian, Oscar and Matic especially.The current system will not cost us against the smaller sides but in the biggest matches, it tends to leave us either far too open (eg United/Lpool away) or far too defensive (eg City away). Still we can get away with it because these teams aren't that clinical unlike in the CL. Jose has always struggled with maintaining the balance which is why he regularly gets knocked out in the CL semis. I really can't see the advantages of his big game tactics, especially in the CL (park the bus, local and disjointed pressing) over a system which involves collective counterpressing and counter attacking even after scoring. The latter results in the concession of fewer chances and creation of more chances if done properly which we are more than capable of doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Thought so too. Was it just me or did he seem quite cold towards Di Matteo?Don't think it's far-fetched to say that Mourinho is annoyed by the fact that RDM won us the Champions League, a trophy he failed to win with us. And not to mention, RDM did it in under 6 months while Mourinho couldn't do it in 3 years. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If a picture could speak a thousand words.. darrus and iceboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Don't think it's far-fetched to say that Mourinho is annoyed by the fact that RDM won us the Champions League, a trophy he failed to win with us. And not to mention, RDM did it in under 6 months while Mourinho couldn't do it in 3 years.Mourinho has two UCL titles and we were clearly robbed in our of our runs under him. I don't see any reason why he could be annoyed. He seems not like him much. It's very simple to me. I can't say one manager in the world Mourinho would be out by out of jealousy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Don't think it's far-fetched to say that Mourinho is annoyed by the fact that RDM won us the Champions League, a trophy he failed to win with us. And not to mention, RDM did it in under 6 months while Mourinho couldn't do it in 3 years.This.But if he loves the club as much as he claims to, then he's got to respect the legend of Di Matteo. Because Robbie delivered for this club both as a player and as a manager, his name is written in the history and nothing can change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Don't think it's far-fetched to say that Mourinho is annoyed by the fact that RDM won us the Champions League, a trophy he failed to win with us. And not to mention, RDM did it in under 6 months while Mourinho couldn't do it in 3 years.This is what I suspect is going on also. His tone when asked about di matteo and overall desposition towards him leads me to one conclusion that Jose doesn't like Di matteo and there's no other logical reason for it other than jealousy. I bet he feels the same way towards Ancelotti for achieving what he couldn't i.e deliver real madrid the La decima. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Hmmm don't think it's jealousy. In his first interview back at Chelsea he praised Robbie and said he did a fantasic job by winning the CL. But recently before the match he sound a little bit annoyed, maybe because of the amount of questions and comparisons between the two. He said "don't ask me to speak about him, he made history here and is a part of the history of the club, I also made my history and want to make more." He said the same about LVG when asked about Louis, "don't ask me to speak about him cause I can speak for hours about him, everyone knows what I feel for him." RoyalBlues, pHaRaOn and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Mourinho has two UCL titles and we were clearly robbed in our of our runs under him. I don't see any reason why he could be annoyed. He seems not like him much. It's very simple to me. I can't say one manager in the world Mourinho would be out by out of jealousy...Robbed is 2008-09, not the games under Mourinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiby2979 175 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Jose can't fool anyone. The Champions League is important to him. The fact that he has downplayed UCL title is precisely evidence that he definitely is jealous by the fact that we won it with RDM and not with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Robbed is 2008-09, not the games under Mourinho.you mean the moscow final (which I don't even want to remember, I don't remember being as hateful, pissed off and simply devastated by a sports match like that), I actually mean in the SF against Liverpool in 2005... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Jose doesn't like Di matteo and there's no other logical reason for it other than jealousy.Maybe he just doesn't like him, you don't need to be jealous to hate someone, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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