Eva Carneiro Leaves Chelsea

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

10 minutes ago, Leif said:

If you feel aggravated by the club, don't ask for a job from the club. 

Who in history sued their boss then continued working for them with happy faces all round? Is she mad? Yes.

She's a woman afterall  

 

 

Don't mean to offend anyone btw.

[Yeboii 1,844]

34 minutes ago, BlueLion said:

Not only does it constitute unfair dismissal, it it was entirely humiliating, degrading, and embarrassing for someone who's given a lot to the club. 

What has she given to the club that not some other doctors have given us?

Its not like she is some legend at the club. Only reason she is well known is because she is female and an attractive one.

In reality, nothing has changed at the club's medical part since she was dismissed. She hasn't given us anything else than being a doctor, just like our current doctors are doing.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

3 hours ago, BlueLion said:

Hope she takes them to the cleaners.

 

Not only does it constitute unfair dismissal, it it was entirely humiliating, degrading, and embarrassing for someone who's given a lot to the club. 

 

I previously posted that I backed Mourinho on his choice, and to some extent I still do, and I made the point that I would rather have José than some doctor. Nevertheless, that doesn't take into account her shameful treatment and the club deserve what's coming to them. 

Well obviously the club think her and her lawyers do not have that much to go on and have called their bluff by letting this go to tribunal instead of settling out of court under her terms.

Of course, she still has the option of a settlement ( agreed mutually) right up until the hour of the case.

A see some posters are getting confused by what Mourinho said after the match and the actions of the club there after.

Also, some posters seem to giving verdicts of the club being completely in the wrong without hearing a shred of evidence from either party

 

Good work Poirot

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Do we know if the club actually fired her or she decided not to continue working? Because obviously Jon Fearn has returned. 

Anyway, I think regardless, she will win the case against the club because (unless courts work differently in Britain) it will most likely hinge on the expert testimony of another professional doctor who will probably side with her. 

As for the sexism case against Jose, if she wins that, it would only be because of the media hysteria  that followed the case. The only sexism involved in the case is the media coverage and witch hunt that followed the incident just because she is a hot woman. 

[Rhino's Skin 972]

12 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Do we know if the club actually fired her or she decided not to continue working? Because obviously Jon Fearn has returned. 

Anyway, I think regardless, she will win the case against the club because (unless courts work differently in Britain) it will most likely hinge on the expert testimony of another professional doctor who will probably side with her. 

As for the sexism case against Jose, if she wins that, it would only be because of the media hysteria  that followed the case. The only sexism involved in the case is the media coverage and witch hunt that followed the incident just because she is a hot woman. 

She was never sacked by the club and the week following after the match incident there was a meeting between the manager and medical team where things were allegedly cleared up. She chose not to go back to work after the match.

 

The strong rumours of other incidents and certain decision making by her regarding injuries and rest for 1st team players may come to light

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Without getting bogged down with the legalities of the case what is undeniable is Mourinho's petulant schoolboy just found out he's going to Darlington rather then Disneyland for his summer holidays is all the evidence the prosecution need that Eva's boss was to say the least prone to the occasional tantrum and overreaction.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

6 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Without getting bogged down with the legalities of the case what is undeniable is Mourinho's petulant schoolboy just found out he's going to Darlington rather then Disneyland for his summer holidays is all the evidence the prosecution need that Eva's boss was to say the least prone to the occasional tantrum and overreaction.

  Paco Biosca????  He was her immediate boss

[CHOULO19 24,332]

11 minutes ago, Rhino's Skin said:

She was never sacked by the club and the week following after the match incident there was a meeting between the manager and medical team where things were allegedly cleared up. She chose not to go back to work after the match.

 

The strong rumours of other incidents and certain decision making by her regarding injuries and rest for 1st team players may come to light

That's what I read as well, but  how could she file an 'unfair dismisal' case if she wasn't actually dismissed?! 

[Rhino's Skin 972]

9 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

That's what I read as well, but  how could she file an 'unfair dismisal' case if she wasn't actually dismissed?! 

Constructive dismissal.....It could be based on several events behind the scenes then the match incident was the final straw.

Speculation of course ;-). As you or I do not know and why it amuses me that posters have made their judgement already without the full story behind the scenes coming to light

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[TheIceMan 596]

what people think this is the OJ case bitch please!!!

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

11 minutes ago, Rhino's Skin said:

  Paco Biosca????  He was her immediate boss

Splitting hairs son 

[Rhino's Skin 972]

2 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Splitting hairs son 

 

2 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Splitting hairs son 

Well Jose was not her boss

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

10 minutes ago, Rhino's Skin said:

 

Well Jose was not her boss

No your right Jose had no influence in Eva getting sacked the man who wields the axe at the Bridge is Paco Blosca  A geezer who I and I would imagine the majority of Chelsea fans have never heard of. He's so anonymous he isn't even a household name in his own household

[HRiver 1,512]

I don't care about any of this and I hope it ends asap because it's really rustling my jimmies

[Rhino's Skin 972]

23 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

No your right Jose had no influence in Eva getting sacked the man who wields the axe at the Bridge is Paco Blosca  A geezer who I and I would imagine the majority of Chelsea fans have never heard of. He's so anonymous he isn't even a household name in his own household

She didn't get sacked.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

23 minutes ago, HRiver said:

I don't care about any of this and I hope it ends asap because it's really rustling my jimmies

Well if the club want to hang this out...the tribunal is in June, so no time soon

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Semantics 

[Barbara 15,149]

I think the club can easily say she was demoted because of questionable decisions in the 18 months prior to the José-gate. She has been questioned including by the doctors committee or whatever over some of her assessments. A couple of times she cleared players to come back playing after head injuries, only for them to be subbed not long after.

Of course, in the episode everything happened she has a right, but the club can easily say she was bringing bad publicity in the execution of her job in a way no other doctors have brought to their clubs in the meanwhile. The demotion also included another person, so she can't exactly say it was personal.

I think she'll be left empty hands suing the club, but she might get some pay-off for the case against Mourinho.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

12 minutes ago, Barbara said:

I think the club can easily say she was demoted because of questionable decisions in the 18 months prior to the José-gate. She has been questioned including by the doctors committee or whatever over some of her assessments. A couple of times she cleared players to come back playing after head injuries, only for them to be subbed not long after.

Of course, in the episode everything happened she has a right, but the club can easily say she was bringing bad publicity in the execution of her job in a way no other doctors have brought to their clubs in the meanwhile. The demotion also included another person, so she can't exactly say it was personal.

I think she'll be left empty hands suing the club, but she might get some pay-off for the case against Mourinho.

So you honestly think someone who may or as far as I know hasn't had any bad publicity should have her professional integrity questioned by bullshit and hearsay?. The bottom line is she was called on to the pitch by the ref she done her job to be met by a middle aged man acting like a truculent teenager. As for bad medical decisions Tottenham's medical staff while helped by an expert in the crowd saved Muamba's life and then a couple of months later are being called unprofessional because they let Lloris play while concussed. I really can't understand the ''she was bringing bad publicity that no other doctors have brought to their clubs in the meanwhile''.

 

 

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[Henrique 9,133]

5 hours ago, Yeboii said:

What has she given to the club that not some other doctors have given us?

Its not like she is some legend at the club. Only reason she is well known is because she is female and an attractive one.

In reality, nothing has changed at the club's medical part since she was dismissed. She hasn't given us anything else than being a doctor, just like our current doctors are doing.

I don't think Alex said she did anything more special than the other doctors do. I don't think Alex said she was a legend, actually he didn't say that. What Alex said was very simple: she worked many years for this club and didn't deserve to leave the way she did, just like the other doctors who are working for the club don't deserve that kind of treatment., because people that are not "legends" also deserve respect.

I think his post was very simple to understand.