Eva Carneiro Leaves Chelsea

[Kieran. 6,317]

Mourinho was wrong, how do people defend him for this....and now the woman has quit football. Nice one Mou, you twat.

[11Drogba 2,000]

9 minutes ago, Kieran. said:

Mourinho was wrong, how do people defend him for this....and now the woman has quit football. Nice one Mou, you twat.

I don't think it was just about defending Mourinho. Some people would exactly act like Fearn in such situations and it tells a lot about a person's character or the lack of it.

[Yeboii 1,844]

1 hour ago, Kieran. said:

Mourinho was wrong, how do people defend him for this....and now the woman has quit football. Nice one Mou, you twat.

Who cares?

[Polo7 3,496]

2 hours ago, Kieran. said:

Mourinho was wrong, how do people defend him for this....and now the woman has quit football. Nice one Mou, you twat.

Lol this is pathetic. 

[Rhino's Skin 972]

And so the tribunal has begun......good luck with trying to get a public apology Eva.....something that an Employment Tribunal cannot order.

Folks have to remember that in the main this is about the Clubs policies and whether they followed correct guidelines with regards to the Doctors grievence.

The bit with Mourinho is secondary to this but relevant.

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Chelsea doctor Eva Carneiro 'heard José Mourinho insult her'

Former Chelsea manager called Carneiro ‘daughter of a whore’ in Portuguese when she ran on to pitch, tribunal hears

Chelsea’s former team doctor clearly heard José Mourinho call her a “daughter of a whore” in Portuguese when she ran on to the pitch during a Premier League match to treat an injured player last year, an employment tribunal has heard.

Dr Eva Carneiro, 42, is claiming unfair dismissal against Chelsea and sex discrimination and harassment against the club’s former manager following the incident against Swansea last August.

Lawyers for Chelsea revealed that Carneiro was offered £1.2m to settle her claims, but has instead decided to take the case to open hearing. In a skeleton argument, they told the tribunal it was far more than “she could realistically recover even if she succeeded on all her claims”.

Carneiro’s decision to run on to the Stamford Bridge pitch to treat Eden Hazard meant the team was temporarily reduced to nine men and Mourinho afterwards called her and the physiotherapist Jon Fearn, who went on with her, “impulsive and naive”. She did not appear on the bench again for first-team duties and later parted company with the club.

In a skeleton argument referring to Mourinho, Carneiro’s lawyers claimed: “This is a tale of two employees: one good, one bad. The bad employee forces the good employee out of the job of her dreams and the employer does nothing to stop it. The bad employee berates, sexually harasses and demotes the good employee for carrying out her professional duties.”

In the first day of what is expected to be a 10-day hearing at Croydon employment tribunal, lawyers for the club and its former manager and those representing Carneiro made clear a key part of the case would hinge on the precise meaning of Portuguese swearing. An expert in Portuguese swearing will give evidence in the case. Mourinho is also expected to give evidence, as will the Chelsea chairman, Bruce Buck, and Chelsea director Marina Granovskaia, one of Roman Abramovich’s most trusted advisers.

The three-person tribunal heard that Mourinho called Carneiro “filha da puta” as she went on to the pitch to treat Hazard in the match against Swansea. Mourinho, in his witness statement denies that and claims he shouted “filho da puta”, which means son of a whore, and that it was not directed at the doctor.

“As she ran on to the pitch she heard clearly from behind her the words filha da puta,” said Mary O’Rourke QC, appearing for the claimant. “She’s a Portuguese speaker. It was not filho da puta, it was filha da puta … you say filha da puta when you are denigrating a woman. He is saying it to the back of the claimant who is doing something he didn’t like … that is the context.”

Daniel Stilitz QC, appearing for Chelsea, said Mourinho’s evidence was that he shouted filho da puta.

“Filho da puta is a phrase he often uses,” he said, adding that it meant son of a bitch. “There is no sexist connotation.”

He said that Mourinho used the phrase frequently at Chelsea’s training ground and during matches.

Chelsea and Mourinho will also argue that Carneiro would still be in her job if she had not resigned and said that she had been “provocative” and “refused to engage in steps to rebuild her relationship with Mourinho”.

“The claimant’s suggestion that Mr Mourinho’s language was gendered and targeted specifically at her is plainly unwarranted in the light of the footage,” their lawyers said in a skeleton argument circulated to the press. “Indeed she did not allege that the language used was discriminatory until well after the event. Mr Mourinho’s language was, again, far from unusual in the context.”

They also allege that in talks with Granovskaia, Carneiro said she was willing to “draw a line under what happened” in exchange for demands including a 40% pay rise to £400,000, a bonus scheme, an immediate return to the bench and a “substantial payment” in compensation for distress.

Mourinho was in charge at Chelsea until his sacking last December following a run of poor form for the team. He has since taken over at Manchester United. He is expected to give evidence on Monday.

The case moved to the full tribunal after agreement was not reached at a private hearing in January. It is expected to run until 24 June and during the hearings, witness statements and documents – including texts and emails – are likely be made public.

Mourinho was cleared of using discriminatory language towards Carneiro following an investigation by the Football Association.

Afterwards, Carneiro and the FA’s independent board member, Dame Heather Rabbatts, criticised the governing body for not interviewing the doctor as part of its investigation.

Carneiro has also had backing from Fifa’s medical chairman, Michel D’Hooghe, who contacted the doctor to offer his support and that of the world governing body. He has backed Carneiro’s insistence that she was simply doing her job.

The hearing continues on Tuesday when Carneiro is due to begin giving evidence.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/06/chelsea-doctor-eva-carneiro-jose-mourinho-insult-filha-filho-da-puta-tribunal-told

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

She really is money whore. The fact that she was willing to take a pay-rise proves her motivations money and attention. I felt sorry for her at first but she can fuk off now.

[Special Juan 27,102]

I'm sick to death of hearing her fucking name and Mourinho's in all honesty.

In fact I couldn't care less what the outcome. It's just more dirt thrown around with our name included and quite frankly it's pathetic how the whole thing panned out.

[Jase 43,479]

Nearly a year on and it still hasn't been resolved. Then again, it's never easy to clear Mourinho's mess.

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38 minutes ago, Jason said:

Nearly a year on and it still hasn't been resolved. Then again, it's never easy to clear Mourinho's mess.

 

this is not just Mourinho's mess though. Its plain to see that the club are obviously backing him here.

This is also about Chelsea following the correct procedures etc.

 

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1 minute ago, Rhino's Skin said:

 

this is not just Mourinho's mess though. Its plain to see that the club are obviously backing him here.

This is also about Chelsea following the correct procedures etc.

 

The club backing him or not, that's not the point. The point is we are in this situation because of the mess Mourinho created to begin with.

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Just now, Jason said:

The club backing him or not, that's not the point. The point is we are in this situation because of the mess Mourinho created to begin with.

how do you know he solely created it?

From whats come out so far, there has been confusion on what words were said and to whom, there was incidents before the league match such as the Florentina match......but at the end if the day she was offered her job back and it seems she was quite willing but on her increased financial and job spec terms. That meant she was willing to work with Mourinho again.

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3 minutes ago, Rhino's Skin said:

how do you know he solely created it?

Would this even be going on right now if he hadn't had the outburst in the Swansea game last August?

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

We're in this situation simply because Dr. Carneiro wants to be a diva.
How many times all of us whisper or say out loud "son of a bitch." without having a specific target? Should the circumstances which had developed in the dying minutes of that match sue Mourinho? 

[Rhino's Skin 972]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Would this even be going on right now if he hadn't had the outburst in the Swansea game last August?

quite possibly yes....as there had been problems before this.

Would she have put in the same wage demands increasing her £285k a year to £400k plus extras if there had been no upset.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Rhino's Skin said:

quite possibly yes....as there had been problems before this.

Would she have put in the same wage demands increasing her £285k a year to £400k plus extras if there had been no upset.

[manpe 10,855]

Wonder if there would be such commotion had he called a man, Jon Fearn for example, a "son of a bitch"? Can't believe the main talking point is about a single letter between "filha" or "filho". They even have an "expert of swearing" to analyze that nonsense - is that really a profession or did they pick up a gangsta from the outskirts of Lisbon? I was expecting something more intriguing and deep, now I just want to shout at them "get the fuck over it you oversensitive greedy twats".

[Essien19 1,415]

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Mary O'Rourke QC, for Carneiro, said: "This is a tale of two employees, one good (Dr Carneiro) and one bad (Mourinho). The bad employee forces the good employee out of the job of her dreams and the employer does nothing to stop it. The bad employee berates, sexually harassed and demoted the good employee for carrying out her professional duties, namely her health and safety duties as the first team doctor, pitchside. Rather than investigating and disciplining the bad employee, the employer allows the bad employee to confirm demotion, both publicly and privately and to continue with his job."
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10305269/eva-carneiros-employment-tribunal-with-jose-mourinho-and-chelsea-set-to-begin

Prison it is, very bad news for Jose.