OhForAGreavsie 6,095 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Pure 9s are overrated, the best strikers in the world are Suarez, aguero, Benz, Ibra, etc.Multi dimensional strikers are in and more coveted.Absolutely, completely, 100% right and it was always thus. One dimensional simply does not cut it and never did.For example Michael Owen* was, in my opinion, the best English finisher since Greaves yet, once people saw through the initial hype, he couldn't get a game for anybody. That was because being a pure finisher, even a very good one, is nowhere enough and never was. I heard Mickey Quinn talking the other day about an early season game where he and Clive Allen were subs for their respective teams despite having scored 80 goals between them the previous season. Quite right too, neither of them had enough to their games to hold a place in a good side.*Owen was a much better finisher than Shearer. Anyone offered a bet on any English footballer scoring a one-on-one vs any keeper will obviously take Greaves unless they're an idiot but next comes Owen in my book; a beautiful finisher. Even so Shearer was the better player. More to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,095 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Pure 9s are overrated, the best strikers in the world are Suarez, aguero, Benz, Ibra, etc.Multi dimensional strikers are in and more coveted.Anyway if some Chelsea fans could justify the shit money we were throwing at Everton not sure how it is any different in this case.Martial is a much better prospect, and united will have a Aguero/Suarez 2.0 in a couple season.As for Martial. I've seen him play three times. Once against Arsenal and twice against Valencia. He didn't catch my eye against Arsenal, was absolutely brilliant in the first leg vs Valencia and, to be frank, was crap in the second leg. The fact is that all players have good and bad games; the trick is to see through the form and try to judge the finite quality of the player. Two such different displays make it hard to be confident in an opinion but, he showed so much to like in the first game against the Spaniards that you'd have to say there is something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,095 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 £30-35m for Stones is one thing.The reported €80m (nearly £60m) for this kid is another. Nearly £60m for a 19 year old from the French league who had just a decent season last year. That's utter madness! For that price you'd expect a striker on Agüero's level or someone who is 100% certain to become world class.You are right but I can't imagine that fee is correct. If there is any truth to it at all then it's much more likely to be the total cost; transfer, agents and wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 4/10 were purchased by Manchester teams.... Figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 50 mil for Mangala cracks me up everytime but paying 80m for this guy isn't even funny anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,893 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Won't matter if he fulfills his potential. Hugely talented, pacey, strong, composed, technically good... for 19 years old 9 goals last season where he hardly started and played left wing more often than not is respectable. Sure it looks a lot at first but he is one of those high level talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,070 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 £36m is crazy money for someone unproven and yet to make an appearance for France to start with, but the fact it could end costing them £58m is beyond believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Im not sure why is there such halo here...That money is no worse than 40m that we almost paid for Stones. Yet no one cared.Double standards at best. When we go after player, no problem pay world record fee for a everton 21year old CB who had one good season in PL, while united goes for a unproven striker for 55m, the world gone mad, united is breaking all the rules blah blah. And vice versa from other fans.For record I think this price for Martial is waay too high, but so was the rumoured one for Stones.At least Martial is a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,070 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Im not sure why is there such halo here...That money is no worse than 40m that we almost paid for Stones. Yet no one cared.Double standards at best. When we go after player, no problem pay world record fee for a everton 21year old CB who had one good season in PL, while united goes for a unproven striker for 55m, the world gone mad, united is breaking all the rules blah blah. And vice versa from other fans.For record I think this price for Martial is waay too high, but so was the rumoured one for Stones.At least Martial is a forward.Stones is HG. That's where the hike in price comes from. Just look at Sterling as a marker of how the English market is. Utd are paying stupid money because they have no other option now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Bertrand traore is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The price for young talent is shocking i 100% believe Kenedy will be better than martial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special 59 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 How is his name pronunced? "...tial" or "...shel" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 How is his name pronunced? "...tial" or "...shel" ?Shel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special 59 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Shel?I mean like "initial". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,095 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The price for young talent is shocking i 100% believe Kenedy will be better than martialI 100% hope you're right. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,095 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Im not sure why is there such halo here...That money is no worse than 40m that we almost paid for Stones. Yet no one cared.Double standards at best. When we go after player, no problem pay world record fee for a everton 21year old CB who had one good season in PL, while united goes for a unproven striker for 55m, the world gone mad, united is breaking all the rules blah blah. And vice versa from other fans.For record I think this price for Martial is waay too high, but so was the rumoured one for Stones.At least Martial is a forward.That's not accurate. Lot's of people were unhappy with the fee rumoured to have been offered for Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_firstlove 178 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The price for young talent is shocking i 100% believe Kenedy will be better than martialIf he have a fair chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 How is his name pronunced? "...tial" or "...shel" ?Mar-see-al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 80€ Million guy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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