Rumoured Arda Turan

[LondonsFinest 692]

Except his age , price , goal and assist contribution , discipline.

But other than that he's fine. ( I actually do want him, kind of )

As opposed to getting no one

Out of all mentioned he sucks at discipline. He dictates the tempo of play so much, you won't even believe it, at least for Atleti. He isn't much of a goal scorer, but mainly because Simeone's tactics make him be the creator, rather than the scorer, if need be, he can finish pretty good if you ask me. Amazing in terms of dribbling and playmaking. Has a vision set. He's 28? Don't see anything bad there. Will push Oscar and if he doesn't cut it, bench him and be replaced by a younger more adequate player if the Brazillian is sold. Also can work on the right and if Cuadrado doesnt find form, is also a solution there. Okay transfer, by my books.

Only problem is his tendency to get stuck in rough challenges and gets yellow cards, but he's a Turk, kind of normal. No offence, intended.

[TheIceMan 596]

we call Jose, Jose..we understand the difference between the Portuguese and Spanish prenounciation of the same name. atleast most of us.

it was a joke I didnt't mean to offend any of you especially when we are communicating on your native language right now! It's just so funny to me when some pundit like Alan Shearer calls him that!

[TheIceMan 596]

Out of all mentioned he sucks at discipline. He dictates the tempo of play so much, you won't even believe it, at least for Atleti. He isn't much of a goal scorer, but mainly because Simeone's tactics make him be the creator, rather than the scorer, if need be, he can finish pretty good if you ask me. Amazing in terms of dribbling and playmaking. Has a vision set. He's 28? Don't see anything bad there. Will push Oscar and if he doesn't cut it, bench him and be replaced by a younger more adequate player if the Brazillian is sold. Also can work on the right and if Cuadrado doesnt find form, is also a solution there. Okay transfer, by my books.

Only problem is his tendency to get stuck in rough challenges and gets yellow cards, but he's a Turk, kind of normal. No offence, intended.

It's kinda of funny the two of us advocating for a turkish player. But it is what it is he is really good!

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

According to transfermarkt he recorded 44 goals and 76 assists in 190 games for Galatasaray. Goal or assist every 142 minutes.

But for Atletico it's only 22 goals and 32 assists in 177 games for Atletico. Goal or assist every 295 minutes.

Obviously we keep in mind that Atletico was a step up in level but by every account Arda played really, really well for Atletico so why so drastic drop in direct contribution ? Maybe he really is restricted there ?

I'd take him as like for like replacement for Oscar in a heartbeat. He thrives in big games, has exceptional technique and can keep flow of the counter-attacks.

Quite a change to Brazilian who is dropped constantly in bigger games. He is 28 but we have top young prospects in Boga, Musonda and Traore so I wouldn't attach to his age. Also it was suggested that Atletico will sell him for less than the clause. 35m€ is a fair price.

Lastly, it seems that they're already spending Turan money on Callejon.

[Viper22 2,418]

He's much better than Oscar currently, that's a given.

He's a very good player who could take some of the creative strain off the back of Fabregas and is a proven big game player so I would be happy with him. Not as happy as I would be if we signed Reus/Bale/Isco/Pogba/Koke but if none of them are available then I guess he's our next best option.

If we get him for around £25M then it would be a decent price, any higher than £35M and I would feel a bit uncomfortable.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

He's much better than Oscar currently, that's a given.

No he isn't. Oscar is better, not even close. Saying "that's a given" doesn't make it true.

Hell, I'd take Willian over Turan as well & I'm one of his biggest critics. Clearly isn't anything in this rumour, 28 year old midfielder that lacks pace, doesn't score or assist often.

[Viper22 2,418]

No he isn't. Oscar is better, not even close.

I sincerely hope you're kidding.

[Pizy 18,858]

I sincerely hope you're kidding.

Look who you're talking to here...

[Viper22 2,418]

No he isn't. Oscar is better, not even close. Saying "that's a given" doesn't make it true.

Hell, I'd take Willian over Turan as well & I'm one of his biggest critics. Clearly isn't anything in this rumour, 28 year old midfielder that lacks pace, doesn't score or assist often.

And you just saying he's better does make it true!!! xD.

I didn't realise it was you when I first replied and was gobsmacked about how anyone can think Oscar is even as good as Turan let alone much better but now Pizy (thanks mate) has pointed out who i'm talking to it all makes sense.

I could give you all of the reasons why he's better but I get the distinct impression it would be a waste of my time because it wouldn't change your opinion because you're either deliberately trolling about the whole Oscar love-in or you're so genuinely obssessed with him in your own fan-boy way that you can't look at things to do with him impartially anyway. So either way I think i'll leave it here!

[Pizy 18,858]

I think Gilvorak is secretly Oscar's wife.

[Azul 1,615]

Lol Gilvorak why are you such a fan of Oscar? What has he done in these past few years that was really important? The guy is not good enough, he is too inconsistent and even when he's inform I'm still not impressed with him.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

And you just saying he's better does make it true!!! xD.

I didn't realise it was you when I first replied and was gobsmacked about how anyone can think Oscar is even as good as Turan let alone much better but now Pizy (thanks mate) has pointed out who i'm talking to it all makes sense.

I could give you all of the reasons why he's better but I get the distinct impression it would be a waste of my time because it wouldn't change your opinion because you're either deliberately trolling about the whole Oscar love-in or you're so genuinely obssessed with him in your own fan-boy way that you can't look at things to do with him impartially anyway. So either way I think i'll leave it here!

Calling me a troll doesn't make Arda Turan better than Oscar. He's a niche, hipster fan favourite but in reality there isn't anything special about him. Just because he dribbles better than Oscar doesn't make him a better player. He lacks end product, pace & has no upside whatsoever.

No idea what this has to do with me supposedly being blindsided Oscar when I just stated Willian's also a better player.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,526]

Alan Shearer is a Geordie,Geordies can`t speak real English let alone foreign words..

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Lol Gilvorak why are you such a fan of Oscar? What has he done in these past few years that was really important? The guy is not good enough, he is too inconsistent and even when he's inform I'm still not impressed with him.

Because the few AM's better than him are clearly unattainable. I'd rather stick with him for at least another year & see if he can maintain consistency over an entire season than flogging him out the club because he isn't as good as Hazard. I see Oscar as a long term project that improves with age rather than the finished product our fans impatiently want him to be.

Hell, I've critiqued Oscar's flaw even while he was still loved pre-Mata sale. I've just grown increasingly defensive over the past year or so because of the outlandish & unfair **** said about him & his rise to the club's scapegoat after Torres left. Alot of our fans genuinely believe he lacks any talent whatsoever which is ridiculous. Oscar has pulled off some things over the past couple of seasons that Hazard can't even dream of.

[Azul 1,615]

Because the few AM's better than him are clearly unattainable. I'd rather stick with him for at least another year & see if he can maintain consistency over an entire season than flogging him out the club because he isn't as good as Hazard. I see Oscar as a long term project that improves with age rather than the finished product our fans impatiently want him to be.

Hell, I've critiqued Oscar's flaw even while he was still loved pre-Mata sale. I've just grown increasingly defensive over the past year or so because of the outlandish & unfair **** said about him & his rise to the club's scapegoat after Torres left. Alot of our fans genuinely believe he lacks any talent whatsoever which is ridiculous. Oscar has pulled off some things over the past couple of seasons that Hazard can't even dream of.

We've had him for three seasons. He should go ASAP while clubs are still interested in him.