Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 He's much better than Oscar currently, that's a given.No he isn't. Oscar is better, not even close. Saying "that's a given" doesn't make it true.Hell, I'd take Willian over Turan as well & I'm one of his biggest critics. Clearly isn't anything in this rumour, 28 year old midfielder that lacks pace, doesn't score or assist often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 No he isn't. Oscar is better, not even close.I sincerely hope you're kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,957 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I sincerely hope you're kidding.Look who you're talking to here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 No he isn't. Oscar is better, not even close. Saying "that's a given" doesn't make it true.Hell, I'd take Willian over Turan as well & I'm one of his biggest critics. Clearly isn't anything in this rumour, 28 year old midfielder that lacks pace, doesn't score or assist often.And you just saying he's better does make it true!!! xD.I didn't realise it was you when I first replied and was gobsmacked about how anyone can think Oscar is even as good as Turan let alone much better but now Pizy (thanks mate) has pointed out who i'm talking to it all makes sense.I could give you all of the reasons why he's better but I get the distinct impression it would be a waste of my time because it wouldn't change your opinion because you're either deliberately trolling about the whole Oscar love-in or you're so genuinely obssessed with him in your own fan-boy way that you can't look at things to do with him impartially anyway. So either way I think i'll leave it here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,957 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I think Gilvorak is secretly Oscar's wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lol Gilvorak why are you such a fan of Oscar? What has he done in these past few years that was really important? The guy is not good enough, he is too inconsistent and even when he's inform I'm still not impressed with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 And you just saying he's better does make it true!!! xD.I didn't realise it was you when I first replied and was gobsmacked about how anyone can think Oscar is even as good as Turan let alone much better but now Pizy (thanks mate) has pointed out who i'm talking to it all makes sense.I could give you all of the reasons why he's better but I get the distinct impression it would be a waste of my time because it wouldn't change your opinion because you're either deliberately trolling about the whole Oscar love-in or you're so genuinely obssessed with him in your own fan-boy way that you can't look at things to do with him impartially anyway. So either way I think i'll leave it here!Calling me a troll doesn't make Arda Turan better than Oscar. He's a niche, hipster fan favourite but in reality there isn't anything special about him. Just because he dribbles better than Oscar doesn't make him a better player. He lacks end product, pace & has no upside whatsoever.No idea what this has to do with me supposedly being blindsided Oscar when I just stated Willian's also a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,543 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Alan Shearer is a Geordie,Geordies can`t speak real English let alone foreign words.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lol Gilvorak why are you such a fan of Oscar? What has he done in these past few years that was really important? The guy is not good enough, he is too inconsistent and even when he's inform I'm still not impressed with him.Because the few AM's better than him are clearly unattainable. I'd rather stick with him for at least another year & see if he can maintain consistency over an entire season than flogging him out the club because he isn't as good as Hazard. I see Oscar as a long term project that improves with age rather than the finished product our fans impatiently want him to be.Hell, I've critiqued Oscar's flaw even while he was still loved pre-Mata sale. I've just grown increasingly defensive over the past year or so because of the outlandish & unfair **** said about him & his rise to the club's scapegoat after Torres left. Alot of our fans genuinely believe he lacks any talent whatsoever which is ridiculous. Oscar has pulled off some things over the past couple of seasons that Hazard can't even dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Because the few AM's better than him are clearly unattainable. I'd rather stick with him for at least another year & see if he can maintain consistency over an entire season than flogging him out the club because he isn't as good as Hazard. I see Oscar as a long term project that improves with age rather than the finished product our fans impatiently want him to be.Hell, I've critiqued Oscar's flaw even while he was still loved pre-Mata sale. I've just grown increasingly defensive over the past year or so because of the outlandish & unfair **** said about him & his rise to the club's scapegoat after Torres left. Alot of our fans genuinely believe he lacks any talent whatsoever which is ridiculous. Oscar has pulled off some things over the past couple of seasons that Hazard can't even dream of.We've had him for three seasons. He should go ASAP while clubs are still interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 There's no denying he's a superb player, but i'd rather we went for a better goal scorer, like his partner Griezmann. Or his other teammate Koke, because he could play in CM next to Matic, Turan doesn't answer any of our two major needs imo. Which are goal scoring or CM partner for Matic in the big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Technically, he's really good. Dribbling, ball control, passing. But at the end of the day it usually results in nothing.Pretty much what we already have in Willian. Just play Willian at #10 instead of buying Turan imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Just play Willian at #10 instead of buying Turan imo.Who's playing RW in this scenario?And Turan imo will create here, it wont "end in nothing". People here are looking so much on stats but little on the actual games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's not Oscar or Turan they both will be in the club and fight for a place in the starting 11. Oscar is here to stay and it's for the long run! All the Oscar haters deal with it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Isn't a bad player, but, again, the Altético players are ideal for his own ecosystem, but they're not so good in another context. Arda isn't important for his productivity, yeah. He's a very technical player and defend with the ball is pretty much his thing. Is a important piece in the Atletico puzzle, no doubt about it, they need that player in order to have some possession in the rivals area and, like i said, he is an amazing shield against technical teams, but obviously, he isn't gonna be that relevant in a team with a different style of game. So, i don't know if really is a good idea pay 40m for him. By the way, he has 29 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lol Gilvorak why are you such a fan of Oscar? What has he done in these past few years that was really important? The guy is not good enough, he is too inconsistent and even when he's inform I'm still not impressed with him.He had a major contribution in the 1st half of the season. Stop being so bitter he might have been shit the 2nd half but completely forgetting what he did for us in the 1st half only makes you an ignorant fan.Also Turan is probably the most overrated player ever. Hope we fucking avoid another mediocre player playing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's not Oscar or Turan they both will be in the club fight for a place in the starting 11. Oscar is here to stay! All the Oscar haters deal with it!!!It's not even about Oscar. Some people actually believe Turan will be a major improvement in our starting 11 but the guy is simply overrated to the maximum. Would be so destroyed if we get this guy while we miss on Reus, Griezmann or even fucking Sterling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's not even about Oscar. Some people actually believe Turan will be a major improvement in our starting 11 but the guy is simply overrated to the maximum. Would be so destroyed if we get this guy while we miss on Reus, Griezmann or even fucking Sterling.Wait a minute mate, Arda is super player I don't why you have such an opinion on him being overrated. But I think he is far from it, after all he was a pivotal part of Atleti title and champions league final season he is fantastic player and will push Oscar to be better, because that's the main thing imo he lacks at the moment, competion If anybody remembers when was Oscar's best and strongest time at Chelsea it was right before Mata left, Oscar's form was the main reason for the leaving of the fanfavourite and imho future if not already a legend Juan Manuel Mata García! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Wait a minute mate, Arda is super player I don't why you have such an opinion on him being overrated. But I think he is far from it, after all he was a pivotal part of Atleti title and champions league final season he is fantastic player and will push Oscar to be better, because that's the main thing imo he lacks at the moment, competion If anybody remembers when was Oscar's best and strongest time at Chelsea it was right before Mata left, Oscar's form was the main reason for the leaving of the fanfavourite and imho future if not already a legend Juan Manuel Mata García!Would welcome another class player to compete with Oscar any day but Turan for me is overrated. I think i got to see him play like 20 matches in the last 2 years or so and he never convinced me is a game changer. We need more goalscorers in our team the guy barely has 3 goals and 6 assists last season in 46 games. Even Willian and Scurrle who played half a season scored more than this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFC12 134 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 People are calling Arda Turan overrated. We learn new things so yeah it's probably one of them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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