cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 There should be song writers & and psalms books for the fans like church.That will keep the atmosphere lively.Fans should be kept on their toes.Have I mentioned that my Greek team is AEK of Athens ?In 1989 we won the league championship and we scored in the 90th minute against Panionios who were very strong that year. It was under torrential rain and the ball got stuck in the mud - was going to be an easy clearance for the defenders otherwise. So it was Christmas-easter and new year's day all in one. As I jumped about in the terrace, I knock a fellas umbrella and it breaks into pieces. He was going to get soaked as a result, plus the umbrella became useless. But all he did was to hug and kiss me for the goal !So it is a question for the organizers.We need to avoid lewd verses though I should think. I 'm fed up with those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Smithette, on 02 Nov 2014 - 7:29 PM, said:Bit harsh on us female fans that go regularly and sing/chant just as loud as the rest, especially your last sentence. Of course there's some female fans that just get dragged along with boyfriends, husbands, etc, or go because it's 'cool', but in my experience, the fact that it's such a traditionally male crowd means that the women who actively choose to be a part of this aren't the problem. It's easy to group female supporters into a stereotype, but I've noticed just as many men in the crowds doing what the women are criticised for. I got deafened at Palace Away by the two women in front of me!I agree with your other points though.Anyway, I think it's a good thing that Mourinho made these comments, as it's sparked a high-profile discussion that wouldn't have happened otherwise.Also, I wish we could ban photography at the Bridge. The number of people who sit back and watch the match through their phone screens never fails to amaze me.I know, fucking weird those people are. They take so many selfies you wonder if they actually know which teams are playing. Because watching a recorded game is better than watching it live amirite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 No, the away support is much better because those who are willing to travel up and down the country/all over Europe are naturally the more hardcore supporters.So then the excuse of that Chelsea supporter that because home tickets are expensive is just that excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This has everything to do with the policy in England against the "Ultras". The same thing happens in Real Madrid and Barcelona, in all the other stadiums in Spain they have great support.The 2 worst atmospheres in Europe are Barcelona and Madrid. And CHelsea is not far from that.Just put 500 young fans together singing and another 2000 will do it also.And there are teams in terms of support better than others, we can't compare Anfield to the Bridge, they are a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 A Chelsea fan recently contacted JT via Instagram and the legend responded:joecfcdaviesHi JT, I thought I would write to you because I feel you're someone in the club who would understand, because you're a fan like us and many of us believe something needs to be done. As much as we all love Jose, his comments yesterday was not called for and was completely bang out of order for people who pay ridiculous prices each week to watch Chelsea. Here lies the first issue, pricing. It has become so expensive following football now that many proper fans are being priced out of going to Stamford bridge and being replaced by tourists who of course won't be singing or making noise. Another one problem is the stewarding, the problem is as soon as people try to stand up and make an atmosphere (you're obviously not gonna have atmosphere sitting down) we get threatened with ejection if we don't sit down so no one wants to make an atmosphere now in fear of getting chucked out. Another problem is the away fans in the famous shed end. If the away fans were in the west upper or East upper then they wouldn't be heard as much as we have a bigger platform to make noise. There are many solutions to the atmosphere problem like singing sections, safe standing, cheaper tickets but the club has done nothing. As you know John our away support is brilliant, because we are standing all game, not being threatened to be kicked out and tickets are generally cheaper. The whole point i am trying to get across is ths all well and good Jose slagging off our support but will he actually do anything about it? because down thing needs to be done rather than just slagging off people who pay loads of money to be told to sit down or face ejection from the stadium. Sorry to bother you JT but as our greatest ever player and a fan yourself, I feel you have influence and understand what we are feeling.Regards, Joe. johnterry.26JoeI'm just about to go and train but will contact you after training today. Please send your number. JT.That's a strong message and I'm happy JT got it.I fucking love this connection between the fans the captain, makes me very proud to be a blue.Happy days anyway, I think we are living some of the happiest days since Munich in football terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This has everything to do with the policy in England against the "Ultras". The same thing happens in Real Madrid and Barcelona, in all the other stadiums in Spain they have great support.The 2 worst atmospheres in Europe are Barcelona and Madrid. And CHelsea is not far from that.Just put 500 young fans together singing and another 2000 will do it also.And there are teams in terms of support better than others, we can't compare Anfield to the Bridge, they are a lot better.My first glimpse of ultras was in the mid-seventies.Those were guys with bell trousers, the fashion of the seventies, but not from boutique shops - you could see they were shopping from uptown prams.Some are horrendous.Many are ok, but one time the club gave me ticket among ultras - by mistake.Those characters threw the entire row of seats onto the pitch and they were threatening to eat the ears (!) of decent supporters nearby who did not like them destroying the seats. We were of course all with the same team. The opponent's ultras were right across, on the other side. So if I was on the other side as well, it was going to be my ghost writing here.Those characters should be taken to the army for nine months every time and live with bears in the mountains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 For sure Jose will be asked about it tomorrow. And as Fulham Broadway already mentioned earlier, yes Jose might praise the away fans as one of the best this time.Also I could partly blame Rio and Barton absent, if at least one of them playing, the crowd will be more lively a bit, at least 'booed' more often, and Jose might never criticized about our support. Damn it those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho refuses to back down over criticismhttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9547273/chelsea-boss-jose-mourinho-refuses-to-back-down-over-criticism?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterChelsea manager Jose Mourinho has refused to back down from his scathing attack on the club's lacklustre support.Mourinho criticised his team for a lack of intensity after the 2-1 home win over struggling QPR, but his biggest frustration was aimed at the home fans who he claimed were far too quiet during the game.Chelsea are riding high at the top of the table, after winning all five of their Premier League home games this season, but Mourinho is mystified as to why the atmosphere is so poor at Stamford Bridge. "We are the team to get less support in home matches. When compared to my previous time I think it's getting worse," he said."I don't question the passion and the love - I'm nobody to question that and I know clearly that is not true."I will always love them and respect them, but I don't know (why the atmosphere is poor)."After two games in little more than 48 hours - the 1-1 draw at Manchester United and 2-1 Capital One Cup defeat of Shrewsbury - Mourinho was relieved to negotiate a difficult week."The week was very strange," added the Portuguese, whose side play at Maribor in Champions League Group G on Wednesday."You play Manchester United on the Sunday, on the Monday you travel. Some of the players had two days off."Some of the others had to go to Shrewsbury immediately. Some of them in Shrewsbury played 90 minutes."Some had a free day the next day (Thursday) but it was a working day for the others."It was a very strange week to work and to be focused. We tried, but the individual performances weren't there and the collective performance was not there too."We have to be more consistent and to play better. In the end we deserved to win, (but) the result could've been more than such a narrow result."It's important to win when you don't play so well as normal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I am never been to Stamford Bridge at matchday, but actually what is the problem to sing while sitting, if standing is prohibited? I used to celebrate and punch the air while laying on the bed at home while watching Chelsea playing.I mean it is not an excuse to not singing, because you are not allowed to standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I am never been to Stamford Bridge at matchday, but actually what is the problem to sing while sitting, if standing is prohibited?I used to celebrate and punch the air while laying on the bed at home while watching Chelsea playing.I mean it is not an excuse to not singing, because you are not allowed to standing.It's true what he says about ultras, bar some unexpected behaviours from them.They make the atmosphere.I 've been on occasions where the entire stadium was cheering non stop though. Against Barcelona was one match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 It's true what he says about ultras, bar some unexpected behaviours from them.They make the atmosphere.I 've been on occasions where the entire stadium was cheering non stop though. Against Barcelone was one match.I understand it must have something to do with adrenaline between standing and sitting, but you still allowed to make a hand gesture sometimes, right?I don't know if that will still disturb some behind you who taking pictures, but I think that must be not a problem most of the times.I don't see any much different cheering while sitting and cheering while standing. The atmosphere would still be there imo.Jose not criticizing our fans to not jumping or dancing, but the noise and support. If you who never sing or cheering all this time, starting to do it next time. If you have sung and cheering all this time, do it louder even more next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Why are away fans allowed to stand and the home fans not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Also I want to push player involvement in this case too, I have seen a player at other leagues did it, would love to see our player once or two trying to lift up the crowd at the match, if it feels too quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 We used to fire flares, but now it is a little illegal.In some grounds they have secret crypts for flares but the police don't search.During the 1968 AEK basket ball european championship campaign, we lit the Panathinaikon stadium & it was perfectly ok to do that then. I had a replica pistol that could fire flares. I still have it but it's gone rusty. The ones we scared most were the Italians of Ignis Vareze. I think it became illegal two years later because there were fuzz around and they told us "don't let us see again any of those replica guns". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This has everything to do with the policy in England against the "Ultras". The same thing happens in Real Madrid and Barcelona, in all the other stadiums in Spain they have great support.The 2 worst atmospheres in Europe are Barcelona and Madrid. And CHelsea is not far from that.Just put 500 young fans together singing and another 2000 will do it also.And there are teams in terms of support better than others, we can't compare Anfield to the Bridge, they are a lot better.Are they really? In routine league games ill go as far as saying there as bad as Arsenal.Infact when we went there last season the place was like a morgue and this was one if their biggest games for years, for all this amazing fans are going to blow goals past Schwarzer talk, they were dreadful.People will quote there CL game vs us in 2005, every ground has its moments in CL knockout rounds, even the Emirates.Anfield "atmosphere" is the most hyped up myth in football, 95 percent of the time that place is one of the worst for atmosphere, even that blinkered lot are slowly starting to admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Why are away fans allowed to stand and the home fans not?we ask the same question every game to which the stewards just shrug and walk off. It is probably because they can punish us long term -i.e. suspend a season ticket or membership whereas away fans can just be chucked out once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdb2005 12 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Before all the turmoil and boardroom unrest Up at Ibrox we had the bf1 section which is basically a dedicated area for young fans to stand and sing for the whole game. This gets the other sections and stands bouncing. I would like to see something like that at the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 we ask the same question every game to which the stewards just shrug and walk off. It is probably because they can punish us long term -i.e. suspend a season ticket or membership whereas away fans can just be chucked out onceVilla fan said to me at their place ''youre only so noisy because youre all stood up''. Its the same with all away fans , most stand up. Though if you go to a League 1 and below, as I am sure youre aware, or even in the Championship a large proportion of the Home fans are always standing.It all changed after Hillsboro and the Taylor report, but Mourinho has a point, it does need to be addressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29624410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29624410Reducing the price of tickets so that the excluded can return is paramount - and the ludicrous policy of targeting people who stand at games has to be ended and the only way to do it in this day and age is to have the safe standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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