Nike 373 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 No not really. Given Ozil and Cazorla are number 10s for Arsenal as are Coutinho and Alberto for Liverpool. Other than Sanchez, who is the only great player in that selection of wide players he should easily be competing to be a regular there and if not a regular at least someone who gets subbed on regularly. Sterling got that green light role or whatever you say it is due to performances where he obviously delivered, Oxlade-Chamberlain very much could do something similar but he hasn't and he isn't at the same level as Sterling but obviously you know you have your opinion and I have mines. Given that arsene plays ozil, cazolra and rosicky out wide they are all included. Also, given ox's versatility to play as a cm, ramsey and wilshere is included. Ox's been injured quite a bit the past year or so to have him granted a free role on a team of players that need the free role to excel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 OX is 1 year older than sterling.............And, Liverpool this season shouldnt be worse, but they are worse.You must of not watch oxlade chamberlin at arsenal-southampton. Ox is better than Sterling at everything besides dribbling..... Is it really his fault that arsenal's phsyio team doesnt know how to do their jobs.Well academically wise, Chamberlain is 2 years older. Depends on the way you look at it. Sterling will be 20 next month while Chamberlain will be 22 in August but in school/college whatever you want to call it, Sterling would be considered a couple years younger. LOL.... did you just say at Southampton? He played for Southampton when they were in L1. Hardly a basis for comparison. Wait a minute. Sterling is not better than him at anything? One could argue the other way round. Their abilities are quite similar. Sterling is a bit faster imo. What you saw today when Chamberlain burst past 2 Swansea players which eventually led to the goal, Sterling has done that several times as well. Recent QPR victory comes to mind. Passing is a difficult one as well. None of them are exceptional at it but both have an eye for a pass. They are both versatile. Like I was saying there is no clear winner to say who is better. The only way I would say you can base it on is that Sterling has done exceptionally well for club for quite a period while Chamberlain has not been able to do the same because of injuries but no doubts he is an excellent talent.WHAT. WHat. whATOxlade Chamberlin is a better overall player... Maybe you dont understand the difference with roles. Rodges give Sterling the greenlight to do whatever, wenger on the other hand didnt even give ozil the green light to play his game, let alone oxalde chamblerin. How is sterling smarter and tactically better than Ox? Sterling is a quote on quote winger, yet oxlade chamberlin is the one that actually plays like a prototypical winger provided crosses and width. When your the main man of a team, your stats will always be good. Ask Juan Mata about stats... When your not, lets see how good you can put up them stats.It's mind boggling that people cant see that rodgers gave him the green light and not coutinho, which is one huge reason for coutinho's inconsistency.Even for England, Sterling will continue to be the main man regardless of whether Chamberlain is fit. I don't know what your vendetta against Sterling is. I rate Chamberlain very highly but he has been injured far too often and Sterling has accomplished more than him so how can you say hands on that Chamberlain is better? That is your opinion. Stop trying to enforce your opinions as a fact. So yes, Arsenal has better attackers than Liverpool but do you really think Chamberlain would have dislodged Sterling out of that team last season? No chance. He probably would have to settle rotating with Coutinho or Henderson because Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge was their star players. Chamberlain would not get ahead of Sterling in that team. Fact.Sterling is better and more consistent than Coutinho. That is why he is given the green light. Coutinho is like Jekyll and Hyde. Can look great one game then completely disappear the next game.I can guarantee you that in future England teams if both are fit Sterling will be a starter. In England's attack the only guaranteed starters are Sterling and Sturridge imo when fit. Rooney probably because of him being captain but even many England fans and pundits rely and regard Sterling as the best and most important player on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Well academically wise, Chamberlain is 2 years older. Depends on the way you look at it. Sterling will be 20 next month while Chamberlain will be 22 in August but in school/college whatever you want to call it, Sterling would be considered a couple years younger. LOL.... did you just say at Southampton? He played for Southampton when they were in L1. Hardly a basis for comparison. Wait a minute. Sterling is not better than him at anything? One could argue the other way round. Their abilities are quite similar. Sterling is a bit faster imo. What you saw today when Chamberlain burst past 2 Swansea players which eventually led to the goal, Sterling has done that several times as well. Recent QPR victory comes to mind. Passing is a difficult one as well. None of them are exceptional at it but both have an eye for a pass. They are both versatile. Like I was saying there is no clear winner to say who is better. The only way I would say you can base it on is that Sterling has done exceptionally well for club for quite a period while Chamberlain has not been able to do the same because of injuries but no doubts he is an excellent talent.Even for England, Sterling will continue to be the main man regardless of whether Chamberlain is fit. I don't know what your vendetta against Sterling is. I rate Chamberlain very highly but he has been injured far too often and Sterling has accomplished more than him so how can you say hands on that Chamberlain is better? That is your opinion. Stop trying to enforce your opinions as a fact. So yes, Arsenal has better attackers than Liverpool but do you really think Chamberlain would have dislodged Sterling out of that team last season? No chance. He probably would have to settle rotating with Coutinho or Henderson because Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge was their star players. Chamberalin would not get ahead of Sterling in that team. Fact.Sterling is better and more consistent than Coutinho. That is why he is given the green light. Coutinho is like Jekyll and Hyde. Can look great one game then completely disappear the next game.I can guarantee you that in future England teams if both are fit Sterling will be a starter. In England's attack the only guaranteed starters are Sterling and Sturridge imo when fit. Rooney probably because of him being captain but even many England fans and pundits rely and regard Sterling as the best and most important player on the team.So, now its school years? Speed is up to debate. I dont really know who is faster, but I do know Ox is a stronger runner. I wouldnt be surprised if ox was faster than sterling, but sterling looks faster because of his superior dribbling compared to ox. In regards to England, the same was said for Jack wilshere that he would be england's savior and the team would revolve around him. Yet, all these years later, it never came to fruition. The fact you think sterling will be englands hope and savior already tells me that you will be disappointed. Also, sterling is better made for liverpool due to his dribbling ability, but oxlade chamberlin would be a better fit for Chelsea. FACTOXlade chamberlin would start over sterling at chelsea. FACt.I can guarantee you that sterling will disappear when his pace does. The reason why liverpool is failing is because mario balotelli isnt a pacewhore like daniel/suarez. Balo wants the ball at his feet and he wants to play around him..... When a team like Liverpool, that spam throughballs all game long or relies of gerrards longball tactics, if you dont have those cfs, of course they wont do well. Maybe you dont remember Stephen El sharraway, before mario came to milan was scoring goals and creating for fun, than balo came and he all of a sudden became crap... People on this forum think sterling would be an upgrade to willian/schurrle, but under Jose, I highly doubt he would last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 So, now its school years? Speed is up to debate. I dont really know who is faster, but I do know Ox is a stronger runner. I wouldnt be surprised if ox was faster than sterling, but sterling looks faster because of his superior dribbling compared to ox. In regards to England, the same was said for Jack wilshere that he would be england's savior and the team would revolve around him. Yet, all these years later, it never came to fruition. The fact you think sterling will be englands hope and savior already tells me that you will be disappointed. Also, sterling is better made for liverpool due to his dribbling ability, but oxlade chamberlin would be a better fit for Chelsea. FACTOXlade chamberlin would start over sterling at chelsea. FACt.I can guarantee you that sterling will disappear when his pace does. The reason why liverpool is failing is because mario balotelli isnt a pacewhore like daniel/suarez. Balo wants the ball at his feet and he wants to play around him..... When a team like Liverpool, that spam throughballs all game long or relies of gerrards longball tactics, if you dont have those cfs, of course they wont do well. Lol you really are digging your own grave here.... hes not Walcott you know he has an all round game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Lol you really are digging your own grave here.... hes not Walcott you know he has an all round game. what all versatile game? Hes a good dribbler with pace.....GUESS what guys, Chadli has 6 goals so far and Hazard has 1 goal minus the pks. I guess hes superior than hazard as well. Since, now people think sterling is good passer/scorer cause of stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Not sure what is more ridiculous OX> Sterling or that Baloteeli isn't shit .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 So, now its school years? Speed is up to debate. I dont really know who is faster, but I do know Ox is a stronger runner. I wouldnt be surprised if ox was faster than sterling, but sterling looks faster because of his superior dribbling compared to ox. In regards to England, the same was said for Jack wilshere that he would be england's savior and the team would revolve around him. Yet, all these years later, it never came to fruition. The fact you think sterling will be englands hope and savior already tells me that you will be disappointed. Also, sterling is better made for liverpool due to his dribbling ability, but oxlade chamberlin would be a better fit for Chelsea. FACTOXlade chamberlin would start over sterling at chelsea. FACt.I can guarantee you that sterling will disappear when his pace does. The reason why liverpool is failing is because mario balotelli isnt a pacewhore like daniel/suarez. Balo wants the ball at his feet and he wants to play around him..... When a team like Liverpool, that spam throughballs all game long or relies of gerrards longball tactics, if you dont have those cfs, of course they wont do well. Maybe you dont remember Stephen El sharraway, before mario came to milan was scoring goals and creating for fun, than balo came and he all of a sudden became crap... People on this forum think sterling would be an upgrade to willian/schurrle, but under Jose, I highly doubt he would last.Sterling is being made the key man for England. Hodgson knows that and that is why most people state Rooney should be dropped because Sterling has to be starting in that no.10 role. Maybe Chamberlain would start here over Sterling. He might not but you said Sterling was playing the more integral role compared to Chamberlain because of inferior players yet at the same time Sterling is now the no.10 for England as well and I assume that will carry on unless his form dramatically drops which I doubt. Even this season, Sterling is the only one you can give credit in such a mediocre team. When Sturridge comes back he will improve more but you cannot deny that he was fantastic last season. I reckon many top class players would struggle in the current Liverpool team now.As to the bolded part. LOL. Maybe in the next decade then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Sterling is being made the key man for England. Hodgson knows that and that is why most people state Rooney should be dropped because Sterling has to be starting in that no.10 role. Maybe Chamberlain would start here over Sterling. He might not but you said Sterling was playing the more integral role compared to Chamberlain because of inferior players yet at the same time Sterling is now the no.10 for England as well and I assume that will carry on unless his form dramatically drops which I doubt. Even this season, Sterling is the only one you can give credit in such a mediocre team. When Sturridge comes back he will improve more but you cannot deny that he was fantastic last season. I reckon many top class players would struggle in the current Liverpool team now.As to the bolded part. LOL. Maybe in the next decade then Sterling is becoming a keyman for roy because everyone is injured and roy loves liverpool players.Jack was injured as was ox and barkely. Who else is there?Hendo? Lennon? Zaha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 what all versatile game? Hes a good dribbler with pace.....GUESS what guys, Chadli has 6 goals so far and Hazard has 1 goal minus the pks. I guess hes superior than hazard as well. Since, now people think sterling is good passer/scorer cause of stats. Please just stop man, its getting hard to take this bullshit seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Oxlade Chamberlin>SterlingAll day, everydayI actually agree. Love Oxlade and think he's being underused at Arsenal, very underrated due to injuries and irregular playing time. I think he'd be fantastic on the right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I actually agree. Love Oxlade and think he's being underused at Arsenal, very underrated due to injuries and irregular playing time. I think he'd be fantastic on the right here.Exactly, people forget how good Ox was and is...He would be the better fit for Chelsea... However, people just look at stats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Exactly, people forget how good Ox was and is...He would be the better fit for Chelsea... However, people just look at stats....No. A lot of people, well me anyway know how good Chamberlain is and his potential but we are just stating that right now you cannot say hands on that he is better than Sterling because he has had far more injuries. For instance you reckon Thiago is better and accomplished more than Fabregas. I dispute this because he is injured 3/4 of the season so he has not proved himself over the season like Fabregas has. That is my point about Chamberlain. An excellent young talent but he has not had a season like Sterling yet and because of the injuries he is going to have to work harder to get in the team especially with the likes of Walcott coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 No. A lot of people, well me anyway know how good Chamberlain is and his potential but we are just stating that right now you cannot say hands on that he is better than Sterling because he has had far more injuries. For instance you reckon Thiago is better and accomplished more than Fabregas. I dispute this because he is injured 3/4 of the season so he has not proved himself over the season like Fabregas has. That is my point about Chamberlain. An excellent young talent but he has not had a season like Sterling yet and because of the injuries he is going to have to work harder to get in the team especially with the likes of Walcott coming back.Thiago is better than Cesc....It was not only I that believed it. It was the rest of Catalonia and Pep. Even the Germans where against the Thiago signing and completely changed tune, acknowledging the significance of Thiago at munich and his greatness. When you have a higher usage rate and are the center of the team, your stats will always be better. Whether its soccer, american football, basketball, etc... Point is that sterling became the man for england when walcott, ox, barkley,jack were all injured...Ask mata what the difference is being the number1 option to being just another player. Ox is another player at arsenal because arsenal kept stockpiling wingers/ams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thiago is better than Cesc....It was not only I that believed it. It was the rest of Catalonia and Pep. Even the Germans where against the Thiago signing and completely changed tune, acknowledging the significance of Thiago at munich and his greatness. When you have a higher usage rate and are the center of the team, your stats will always be better. Whether its soccer, american football, basketball, etc... Point is that sterling became the man for england when walcott, ox, barkley,jack were all injured...Ask mata what the difference is being the number1 option to being just another player. Ox is another player at arsenal because arsenal kept stockpiling wingers/ams.Is thiago better than Zola? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is thiago better than Zola?You have doubt of this?.You join to Pele with Maradona and will be a piece of shite compared with the great Thiago Alcantara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I'd certainly agree that Oxlade is a lot more mature than his Liverpool counterpart. His versatility is severely underrated too, he can play anywhere across midfield.. I personally want to see him in a more central midfield role because I think he could dictate the pace of a game and make bursting runs through the middle. As they get older I do think Sterling would edge out Oxlade-Chamberlain. I really wanted to to sign him when I first saw him for Southampton (I even started the thread on here iirc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Liverpool plan on stopping Raheem Sterling from joining Premier League rival by inserting clause into new contract http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2836226/Liverpool-plan-stopping-Raheem-Sterling-joining-Premier-League-rival.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Thiago is better than Cesc....It was not only I that believed it. It was the rest of Catalonia and Pep. Even the Germans where against the Thiago signing and completely changed tune, acknowledging the significance of Thiago at munich and his greatness. When you have a higher usage rate and are the center of the team, your stats will always be better. Whether its soccer, american football, basketball, etc... Point is that sterling became the man for england when walcott, ox, barkley,jack were all injured...Ask mata what the difference is being the number1 option to being just another player. Ox is another player at arsenal because arsenal kept stockpiling wingers/ams.''significance of Thiago at munich and his greatness'' By that you mean him being injured there all the time or what?You seriously missunderstand potential and actual displays on pitch through career. Only flaw Cesc has is his inability to perform on top in big games, elsewhere he is better player, until Thiago actualy completes season without spending 6 months on sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 ''significance of Thiago at munich and his greatness'' By that you mean him being injured there all the time or what?You seriously missunderstand potential and actual displays on pitch through career. Only flaw Cesc has is his inability to perform on top in big games, elsewhere he is better player, until Thiago actualy completes season without spending 6 months on sidelines.what?Thiago played as many games at barca under pep as Cesc did... At 4 years his junior, at his preferred role...If you guys actually go on the barca board, back in 2011, they had a lot of discussion about who should take over once xavi leaves, cesc or thiago... Back than and even now, the general consensus was and is Thiago in catalonia.. http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/6964-Cesc-Fabregas-or-Thiago-Alcantarahttp://www.whoscored.com/Articles/-z7-jyvrhectam1edtdl1a/Show/Player-Focus-Thiago-Alcantara-The-Rightful-Heir-to-Xavis-ThroneThe number of times a player has made 120+ passes in a match since Jan 1, 2010 Xavi 24 Thiago Alcantara 5 Xabi Alonso 4 Andrea Pirlo 4 Andres Iniesta 3 Thiago Motta 3 Marco Verratti 3 Yaya Toure 3 Sergio Busquets 2 Michael Carrick 2 Cesc Fabregas 2 The number of times a player has made 150+ passes in a match since Jan 1, 2010 Xavi 17 Thiago Alcantara 5 Xabi Alonso 4 Andrea Pirlo 4 Marco Verratti 3 Sergio Busquets 2 Michael Carrick 2 Andres Iniesta 2 Toni Kroos 2 Bastian Schweinsteiger 2 Cesc Fabregas 1 Or the fact Thiago already broke the bundesliga record for touches in a game with 177(too be surpassed by alonso the season after)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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