Raheem Sterling

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So? What relevance does a 24 year old playing in a far better team have to a 19 year old playing in an inferior one?

Why can't the people who call Sterling overrated come up with the names of some better players of that age right now in England?

chelsea 2 seasons ago had rambo-lampard/mikel with young kids oscar, hazard and moses along with torres and was a game away from not qualifying to champs league....

OXLADE CHAMBERLIN is better than STERLING....

OXalde Chamberlin is england's best young player, just like thiago and gundogan, injuries make people forget easily their immense quality.

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So? What relevance does a 24 year old playing in a far better team have to a 19 year old playing in an inferior one?

Why can't the people who call Sterling overrated come up with the names of some better players of that age right now in England?

There aren't very many, I can see why some people would perhaps think hes a bit overrated but he's hardly vastly overrated. Hes definitely the best English player of that U23 age group along with Ross Barkley and Jack Wilshere if he still falls into that group.

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chelsea 2 seasons ago had rambo-lampard/mikel with young kids oscar, hazard and moses along with torres and was a game away from not qualifying to champs league....

OXLADE CHAMBERLIN is better than STERLING....

OXalde Chamberlin is england's best young player, just like thiago and gundogan, injuries make people forget easily their immense quality.

Barkley and Sterling... both better. No doubts about it, although Oxlade-Chamberlain is certainly a talented player wouldn't say hes as good as those two.

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chelsea 2 seasons ago had rambo-lampard/mikel with young kids oscar, hazard and moses along with torres and was a game away from not qualifying to champs league....

OXLADE CHAMBERLIN is better than STERLING....

OXalde Chamberlin is england's best young player, just like thiago and gundogan, injuries make people forget easily their immense quality.

And Liverpool in 14-15 are even worse than that Chelsea team, I'm sure you'll agree.

Ox is also a couple of years older. Next.

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And Liverpool in 14-15 are even worse than that Chelsea team, I'm sure you'll agree.

Ox is also a couple of years older. Next.

OX is 1 year older than sterling.............

And, Liverpool this season shouldnt be worse, but they are worse.

Barkley and Sterling... both better. No doubts about it, although Oxlade-Chamberlain is certainly a talented player wouldn't say hes as good as those two.

You must of not watch oxlade chamberlin at arsenal-southampton.

Ox is better than Sterling at everything besides dribbling..... Is it really his fault that arsenal's phsyio team doesnt know how to do their jobs.

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Balo is not shit. Balo for a cf is the most skilled young CF in the world. Maybe hes attitude is shit and his workrate.

Also, im pretty sure people on this board though llalana/markovich/coutinho was better than oscar.....

Fact is Liverpool is a throughball spamming team. Daniel has fantastic pace and Suarez ran all day. Those 2 made the ams stats looks very good.

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OX is 1 year older than sterling.............

And, Liverpool this season shouldnt be worse, but they are worse.

You must of not watch oxlade chamberlin at arsenal-southampton.

Ox is better than Sterling at everything besides dribbling..... Is it really his fault that arsenal's phsyio team doesnt know how to do their jobs.

Lol so your now saying that Arsenals physios are at fault for him not kicking on as much when hes been fit as well? Remember his first year for Arsenal, he only kicked on the second half of the season and the year after he was very much pretty poor and also injured a lot. So your telling me you watched Oxlade-Chamberlain in League 1 with Southampton? I doubt that very much mate. Sterling has gone from strength to strength under Rodgers since making his debut vs City, Oxlade-Chamberlain hasn't improved as much as Sterling has.

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Lol so your now saying that Arsenals physios are at fault for him not kicking on as much when hes been fit as well? Remember his first year for Arsenal, he only kicked on the second half of the season and the year after he was very much pretty poor and also injured a lot. So your telling me you watched Oxlade-Chamberlain in League 1 with Southampton? I doubt that very much mate. Sterling has gone from strength to strength under Rodgers since making his debut vs City, Oxlade-Chamberlain hasn't improved as much as Sterling has.

Its the phsysio fault that arsenal is half injured, with ox being one of them.....

Ramsey, wilshere, arteta, ozil, ox, walcott, giroud...Somehow, arsenal seems to get everyone injured...

Please tell me what sterling is better than ox at besides dribbling?

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Its the phsysio fault that arsenal is half injured, with ox being one of them.....

Ramsey, wilshere, arteta, ozil, ox, walcott, giroud...Somehow, arsenal seems to get everyone injured...

Please tell me what sterling is better than ox at besides dribbling?

Hes just an all round better footballer, better football intelligence, tactically better, dribbling and probably his final ball as well.

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Hes just an all round better footballer, better football intelligence, tactically better, dribbling and probably his final ball as well.

WHAT. WHat. whAT

Oxlade Chamberlin is a better overall player... Maybe you dont understand the difference with roles. Rodges give Sterling the greenlight to do whatever, wenger on the other hand didnt even give ozil the green light to play his game, let alone oxalde chamblerin. How is sterling smarter and tactically better than Ox? Sterling is a quote on quote winger, yet oxlade chamberlin is the one that actually plays like a prototypical winger provided crosses and width.

When your the main man of a team, your stats will always be good. Ask Juan Mata about stats... When your not, lets see how good you can put up them stats.

It's mind boggling that people cant see that rodgers gave him the green light and not coutinho, which is one huge reason for coutinho's inconsistency.

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Its the phsysio fault that arsenal is half injured, with ox being one of them.....

Ramsey, wilshere, arteta, ozil, ox, walcott, giroud...Somehow, arsenal seems to get everyone injured...

Out of Sterling topic, I have to disagree with this.

Please read :

One problem with such a question is that the very processes of so many injuries are so fluid and come with so many factors. Much can influence one strain, from the number of recent games played, to the angle of contact.

That makes discussion of the issue hugely complicated, and dependent on a certain amount of conjecture. From talking to those around the club, a series of different theories are put forward. One former player is privately much more critical of the Arsenal approaches than many of his old teammates. He has told representatives that the injury prevention programme was simply not up to the standard of his national team. He also maintained that was not an isolated opinion among the squad.

Another potential issue put forward focused on the recovery period after injuries. One source stated that returning players are moved from working with the physio to working with the fitness coach rather quickly. This is notable because of the different type of work involved.

Representatives of some squad members have also privately complained that there is a "hastiness" in putting recovering players back in the match squad, partially because the squad is often stretched, so the problem may even perpetuate itself.

Many of the theories actually revolve around another recurring theme: whether the manager has stayed as close to the modern trends of the game as he might have.

Former Arsenal player Stewart Robson has been a regular critic of Wenger, and last year alluded to a regular complaint in football science circles. "I met one of the members of Arsenal's sports science department and he said he told Arsene Wenger on many occasions that 'you are working the players too hard' and Wenger took no notice," Robson told ESPN FC. On the other side, some sources have stated Wenger prefers his players to train with the ball as much as possible, and isn't so interested in weights and strength work as others might be.

Dutch physio Raymond Verheijen has been the most vocal critic of Arsenal's conditioning, and has boiled it down most brutally. "When Arsene Wenger came to Britain in the mid-'90s his training methods were revolutionary," Verheijen said. "But the problem with revolutionary people is that they're only revolutionary once in their life, so 20 years on they become average. And then they become prehistoric."

Out of all of this debate and so many alternate views, one thing is at least certain. Wenger is well aware there is a problem that must be fixed, and has at least taken the initial steps in bringing Arsenal up to speed.

American fitness specialist Shad Forsythe was recruited from the German World Cup-winning squad in July 2014 and sources said the manager has been "excited" about his arrival. Millions have also been spent on the sports science department.

That does not mean any change will be instant. The club are continuing to investigate, and will then likely have to adjust to any new approaches after that. This will be a long-term process. So far, the changes have been small. Arsenal are tweaking the workload on players in the build-up to games, and subs are now warming up right through matches, rather than just before they come on.

Wenger will hope all of this gradually builds up to a big transformation, and a radical reduction in the rate of injuries. Arsenal need it.

Source :

http://www.espnfc.com/club/arsenal/359/blog/post/2064613/arsenal-face-another-injury-crisis-in-champions-league-and-premier-league

I would say it is basically because of one man. Their core problem is Wenger.

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WHAT. WHat. whAT

Oxlade Chamberlin is a better overall player... Maybe you dont understand the difference with roles. Rodges give Sterling the greenlight to do whatever, wenger on the other hand didnt even give ozil the green light to play his game, let alone oxalde chamblerin. How is sterling smarter and tactically better than Ox? Sterling is a quote on quote winger, yet oxlade chamberlin is the one that actually plays like a prototypical winger provided crosses and width.

When your the main man of a team, your stats will always be good. Ask Juan Mata about stats... When your not, lets see how good you can put up them stats.

Jesus man I don't know how to respond to all that bullshit about green lights or whatever but I'll try.... When Rodgers promoted Sterling into his first 11 he didn't let him do whatever he wanted, he had strict tactical roles to do, tracking back, pressing high up the park, sitting spare and basically marking space if his full back was inside following a player. He was hardly the main man at Liverpool and I still don't think he is, Suarez was the main man last season without a doubt, Gerrard is perhaps still more of the main man this year. Sterlings earned that role because of his improvement and quality since playing against City 2 seasons ago or whatever year it was he made his debut under Rodgers.

Oxlade-Chamberlain has hardly matched any of Sterlings performances or stats from the last 2 years when he wasn't even the main man so are you gonna tell me hes better because he scored 10 goals in League 1 with Southampton or claim that he is better than Sterling even though he's struggled with injuries and consistency at Arsenal?

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Jesus man I don't know how to respond to all that bullshit about green lights or whatever but I'll try.... When Rodgers promoted Sterling into his first 11 he didn't let him do whatever he wanted, he had strict tactical roles to do, tracking back, pressing high up the park, sitting spare and basically marking space if his full back was inside following a player. He was hardly the main man at Liverpool and I still don't think he is, Suarez was the main man last season without a doubt, Gerrard is perhaps still more of the main man this year. Sterlings earned that role because of his improvement and quality since playing against City 2 seasons ago or whatever year it was he made his debut under Rodgers.

Oxlade-Chamberlain has hardly matched any of Sterlings performances or stats from the last 2 years when he wasn't even the main man so are you gonna tell me hes better because he scored 10 goals in League 1 with Southampton or claim that he is better than Sterling even though he's struggled with injuries and consistency at Arsenal?

Sterling got that role because his competition was Moses, Coutinho, alberto and the other spainard.

Ox competition at arsenal is wilshere,welback, ramsey, ozil, alexis, walcott, cazolra. You see the difference?

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Sterling got that role because his competition was Moses, Coutinho, alberto and the other spainard.

Ox competition at arsenal is wilshere,welback, ramsey, ozil, alexis, walcott, cazolra. You see the difference?

No not really. Given Ozil and Cazorla are number 10s for Arsenal as are Coutinho and Alberto for Liverpool. Other than Sanchez, who is the only great player in that selection of wide players he should easily be competing to be a regular there and if not a regular at least someone who gets subbed on regularly. Sterling got that green light role or whatever you say it is due to performances where he obviously delivered, Oxlade-Chamberlain very much could do something similar but he hasn't and he isn't at the same level as Sterling but obviously you know you have your opinion and I have mines.

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No not really. Given Ozil and Cazorla are number 10s for Arsenal as are Coutinho and Alberto for Liverpool. Other than Sanchez, who is the only great player in that selection of wide players he should easily be competing to be a regular there and if not a regular at least someone who gets subbed on regularly. Sterling got that green light role or whatever you say it is due to performances where he obviously delivered, Oxlade-Chamberlain very much could do something similar but he hasn't and he isn't at the same level as Sterling but obviously you know you have your opinion and I have mines.

Given that arsene plays ozil, cazolra and rosicky out wide they are all included. Also, given ox's versatility to play as a cm, ramsey and wilshere is included.

Ox's been injured quite a bit the past year or so to have him granted a free role on a team of players that need the free role to excel...

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OX is 1 year older than sterling.............

And, Liverpool this season shouldnt be worse, but they are worse.

You must of not watch oxlade chamberlin at arsenal-southampton.

Ox is better than Sterling at everything besides dribbling..... Is it really his fault that arsenal's phsyio team doesnt know how to do their jobs.

Well academically wise, Chamberlain is 2 years older. Depends on the way you look at it. Sterling will be 20 next month while Chamberlain will be 22 in August but in school/college whatever you want to call it, Sterling would be considered a couple years younger. LOL.... did you just say at Southampton? He played for Southampton when they were in L1. Hardly a basis for comparison. Wait a minute. Sterling is not better than him at anything? One could argue the other way round. Their abilities are quite similar. Sterling is a bit faster imo. What you saw today when Chamberlain burst past 2 Swansea players which eventually led to the goal, Sterling has done that several times as well. Recent QPR victory comes to mind. Passing is a difficult one as well. None of them are exceptional at it but both have an eye for a pass. They are both versatile. Like I was saying there is no clear winner to say who is better. The only way I would say you can base it on is that Sterling has done exceptionally well for club for quite a period while Chamberlain has not been able to do the same because of injuries but no doubts he is an excellent talent.

WHAT. WHat. whAT

Oxlade Chamberlin is a better overall player... Maybe you dont understand the difference with roles. Rodges give Sterling the greenlight to do whatever, wenger on the other hand didnt even give ozil the green light to play his game, let alone oxalde chamblerin. How is sterling smarter and tactically better than Ox? Sterling is a quote on quote winger, yet oxlade chamberlin is the one that actually plays like a prototypical winger provided crosses and width.

When your the main man of a team, your stats will always be good. Ask Juan Mata about stats... When your not, lets see how good you can put up them stats.

It's mind boggling that people cant see that rodgers gave him the green light and not coutinho, which is one huge reason for coutinho's inconsistency.

Even for England, Sterling will continue to be the main man regardless of whether Chamberlain is fit. I don't know what your vendetta against Sterling is. I rate Chamberlain very highly but he has been injured far too often and Sterling has accomplished more than him so how can you say hands on that Chamberlain is better? That is your opinion. Stop trying to enforce your opinions as a fact. So yes, Arsenal has better attackers than Liverpool but do you really think Chamberlain would have dislodged Sterling out of that team last season? No chance. He probably would have to settle rotating with Coutinho or Henderson because Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge was their star players. Chamberlain would not get ahead of Sterling in that team. Fact.

Sterling is better and more consistent than Coutinho. That is why he is given the green light. Coutinho is like Jekyll and Hyde. Can look great one game then completely disappear the next game.

I can guarantee you that in future England teams if both are fit Sterling will be a starter. In England's attack the only guaranteed starters are Sterling and Sturridge imo when fit. Rooney probably because of him being captain but even many England fans and pundits rely and regard Sterling as the best and most important player on the team.

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Well academically wise, Chamberlain is 2 years older. Depends on the way you look at it. Sterling will be 20 next month while Chamberlain will be 22 in August but in school/college whatever you want to call it, Sterling would be considered a couple years younger. LOL.... did you just say at Southampton? He played for Southampton when they were in L1. Hardly a basis for comparison. Wait a minute. Sterling is not better than him at anything? One could argue the other way round. Their abilities are quite similar. Sterling is a bit faster imo. What you saw today when Chamberlain burst past 2 Swansea players which eventually led to the goal, Sterling has done that several times as well. Recent QPR victory comes to mind. Passing is a difficult one as well. None of them are exceptional at it but both have an eye for a pass. They are both versatile. Like I was saying there is no clear winner to say who is better. The only way I would say you can base it on is that Sterling has done exceptionally well for club for quite a period while Chamberlain has not been able to do the same because of injuries but no doubts he is an excellent talent.

Even for England, Sterling will continue to be the main man regardless of whether Chamberlain is fit. I don't know what your vendetta against Sterling is. I rate Chamberlain very highly but he has been injured far too often and Sterling has accomplished more than him so how can you say hands on that Chamberlain is better? That is your opinion. Stop trying to enforce your opinions as a fact. So yes, Arsenal has better attackers than Liverpool but do you really think Chamberlain would have dislodged Sterling out of that team last season? No chance. He probably would have to settle rotating with Coutinho or Henderson because Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge was their star players. Chamberalin would not get ahead of Sterling in that team. Fact.

Sterling is better and more consistent than Coutinho. That is why he is given the green light. Coutinho is like Jekyll and Hyde. Can look great one game then completely disappear the next game.

I can guarantee you that in future England teams if both are fit Sterling will be a starter. In England's attack the only guaranteed starters are Sterling and Sturridge imo when fit. Rooney probably because of him being captain but even many England fans and pundits rely and regard Sterling as the best and most important player on the team.

So, now its school years?

Speed is up to debate. I dont really know who is faster, but I do know Ox is a stronger runner. I wouldnt be surprised if ox was faster than sterling, but sterling looks faster because of his superior dribbling compared to ox.

In regards to England, the same was said for Jack wilshere that he would be england's savior and the team would revolve around him. Yet, all these years later, it never came to fruition. The fact you think sterling will be englands hope and savior already tells me that you will be disappointed. Also, sterling is better made for liverpool due to his dribbling ability, but oxlade chamberlin would be a better fit for Chelsea. FACT

OXlade chamberlin would start over sterling at chelsea. FACt.

I can guarantee you that sterling will disappear when his pace does. The reason why liverpool is failing is because mario balotelli isnt a pacewhore like daniel/suarez. Balo wants the ball at his feet and he wants to play around him..... When a team like Liverpool, that spam throughballs all game long or relies of gerrards longball tactics, if you dont have those cfs, of course they wont do well.

Maybe you dont remember Stephen El sharraway, before mario came to milan was scoring goals and creating for fun, than balo came and he all of a sudden became crap... People on this forum think sterling would be an upgrade to willian/schurrle, but under Jose, I highly doubt he would last.

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So, now its school years?

Speed is up to debate. I dont really know who is faster, but I do know Ox is a stronger runner. I wouldnt be surprised if ox was faster than sterling, but sterling looks faster because of his superior dribbling compared to ox.

In regards to England, the same was said for Jack wilshere that he would be england's savior and the team would revolve around him. Yet, all these years later, it never came to fruition. The fact you think sterling will be englands hope and savior already tells me that you will be disappointed. Also, sterling is better made for liverpool due to his dribbling ability, but oxlade chamberlin would be a better fit for Chelsea. FACT

OXlade chamberlin would start over sterling at chelsea. FACt.

I can guarantee you that sterling will disappear when his pace does. The reason why liverpool is failing is because mario balotelli isnt a pacewhore like daniel/suarez. Balo wants the ball at his feet and he wants to play around him..... When a team like Liverpool, that spam throughballs all game long or relies of gerrards longball tactics, if you dont have those cfs, of course they wont do well.

Lol you really are digging your own grave here.... hes not Walcott you know he has an all round game.