MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 #FreeFilipeWhat I predict will happen: Luis leaves in the summer, we replace him with a much less talented LB, one of Ivanovic/Azpi gets a long-term injury or suspension, and we are forced to play the new (average) LB for much of the season. Inevitable.Then next Jan go for a Matic type signing in Rodriguez or Aogo or Danilo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Then next Jan go for a Matic type signing in Rodriguez or Aogo or Danilo What if it happens in February? Those players would be very expensive in the Jan market and would no doubt eventually be left to rot on the bench once Azpi/Iva were to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Why British journalists have to be so clueless and don't ask about tactics or style of play ? Why ANYBODY, literally ANYBODY didn't ask Jose yet if he thinks that our pressing game and transition needs improvement, why he doesn't play Filipe for example, all that things. In Spain they're sensation-seeking bastards too but they at least ask a genuine interesting questions about system of play and certain players fitting (or not) into that system. The Chels and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Why British journalists have to be so clueless and don't ask about tactics or style of play ? Why ANYBODY, literally ANYBODY didn't ask Jose yet if he thinks that our pressing game and transition needs improvement, why he doesn't play Filipe for example, all that things. In Spain they're sensation-seeking bastards too but they at least ask a genuine interesting questions about system of play and certain players fitting (or not) into that system.When they asked those questions with Mata or Kevin he got mad so ever since they don't dare to do it anymore. Also the closest the questions come are like 'is your team going to play counter attacking today?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 When they asked those questions with Mata or Kevin he got mad so ever since they don't dare to do it anymore. Also the closest the questions come are like 'is your team going to play counter attacking today?'Didn't Jose say he regularly spoke about tactics at press-conferences in Italy? Now if he's even asked about anything on the agenda (e.g. Mata/Oscar) he gets incredibly angry. His time at Real definitely changed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Mourinho shows a big middle finger to Filipe. I know that team > player but he has real solution at his disposal, not some declining Ashley Cole, who Roma want to offload at any given chance, but genuine world-class player.He has 2 real athletes for both sides who are monsters at pressing yet the undisputed number one is a guy converted to RB from CB in his mid-20's, who is big and heavy and isn't natural athlete at all. Also is already 31 and looses gradually yards of pace, is complacent as fuck and wouldn't press if he has his life on the line. Go figure. Belgiannutt and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 As Ajax fan I remember when our hero Jari Litmanen was playing in Liverpool in his final years. When he didn't get playing time, even the Liverpool fans said that "if we are not going to play him, let at least some other club's fans enjoy seeing the lad play." Same can be said about Filipe. Absolutely top player and Mourinho might want to think of ways he could accommodate all our three star fullbacks on the field same time. Luis has some serious skill in the offensive end and could be a major asset. Nobody in our team par Fabregas crosses the ball better than him.Fabregas needs a holiday. It did wonders with Hazard at Crimbo, and Luis can play at CM, his ball distribution and vision is excellent. Then after that he must move to LB. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 He can't play because Azpi does not deserve to be dropped.Ivanovic obviously has something on Mourinho, because since he's been back, JT and Ivanovic are the only players who play every game and are never subbed or rested after bad performances.Agree but that doesn't mean that we have to play him at LB in every game. We all know how that doesn't help our attacks on the left at all and Hazard always has to deal with 2-3 players all by himself at once. If Mourinho wants defensive solidity in the away games and/or the bigger games, then go with Azpi. But against some of the lesser sides, who are going defend narrow and compact, play Luis so there's more width in our play to stretch the opposing team's defence. Otherwise, we'll just be playing right in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Agree but that doesn't mean that we have to play him at LB in every game. We all know how that doesn't help our attacks on the left at all and Hazard always has to deal with 2-3 players all by himself at once. If Mourinho wants defensive solidity in the away games and/or the bigger games, then go with Azpi. But against some of the lesser sides, who are going defend narrow and compact, play Luis so there's more width in our play to stretch the opposing team's defence. Otherwise, we'll just be playing right in front of them.Tbf when Azpi is at LB, Ivanovic has the freedom to bomb forward and create said width. And he is actually decent at this now.Anyway a defence of Ivan-Cahill-JT-Luis does not sound like much of an improvement to me. Ivanovic will still fuck up on the right, and Luis will be caught out of position many times to actually help the situation - like Azpi always does. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Tbf when Azpi is at LB, Ivanovic has the freedom to bomb forward and create said width. And he is actually decent at this now.Anyway a defence of Ivan-Cahill-JT-Luis does not sound like much of an improvement to me. Ivanovic will still fuck up on the right, and Luis will be caught out of position many times to actually help the situation - like Azpi always does.But on the other hand, we can go with the simple instruction of when the LB goes forward, the RB stays back and vice versa. Mourinho is just being stubborn and stubbornly loyal to certain players. Belgiannutt and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Didn't Jose say he regularly spoke about tactics at press-conferences in Italy? Now if he's even asked about anything on the agenda (e.g. Mata/Oscar) he gets incredibly angry. His time at Real definitely changed him.He's in a real irritable mood right now, with the press. Almost Ferguson-like in that aspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 It looks too obvious now in hindsight, but I had a nagging feeling back in Oct-Nov last year that we would struggle to progress equally well in CL, PL and other cup competitions..mainly because our Schurrles, Salahs, Remy's and Luis's were not being played enough to affect the results of our season.In the double winning season of 09-10, even Paulo Ferreira who was our 3'rd choice right back played a series of very good games, crucial ones at that. Essien who was the Matic of that season, was replaced comfortably by Mikel and Ballack when he got injured. Deco and Joe Cole, although out for most of the season would be brought on to influence games. That level of involvement from the whole squad is what we need if we need to achieve anything as ambitious as treble, or PL/CL double. The Chels, manpe and DH1988 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted March 16, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2015 Apilicueta great at LB in 2014/2015 = one of the great myths this season. Shaan, zolayes, The Chels and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 It looks too obvious now in hindsight, but I had a nagging feeling back in Oct-Nov last year that we would struggle to progress equally well in CL, PL and other cup competitions..mainly because our Schurrles, Salahs, Remy's and Luis's were not being played enough to affect the results of our season.In the double winning season of 09-10, even Paulo Ferreira who was our 3'rd choice right back played a series of very good games, crucial ones at that. Essien who was the Matic of that season, was replaced comfortably by Mikel and Ballack when he got injured. Deco and Joe Cole, although out for most of the season would be brought on to influence games. That level of involvement from the whole squad is what we need if we need to achieve anything as ambitious as treble, or PL/CL double.Unfortunately, we have a manager who is very stubborn and can have a dogmatic attitude towards players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I am amazed at the continual lack of use of Luis. The lack of attacking ability of Azpilicueta is a throw back to the 50s when full backs defended and hoofed the ball upfield. bethos1, petre.ispirescu and MrExcalibur100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would love to see this lineup sometimes Azpi - Ivanović/Zouma - Terry - LuisIt would be also easier to score against weaker opponents with both full backs bombing forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would love to see this lineup sometimes Azpi - Ivanović/Zouma - Terry - LuisIt would be also easier to score against weaker opponents with both full backs bombing forward You are lucky to see that line-up once a season in a League Cup game against a semi-pro or amateur side if we draw one. Either Ivanovic or Azpilicueta leaves, or Filipe goes. He has no business rotting on the bench here unfortunately. Judging by last season and this season, Bran and Azpi will be our untouchable full-backs for years to come. We better get used to it. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The main problem with Filipe Luis are Ivanovic and Azpilicueta. They are indisputable, especially Azpi, and their level is so high that it is very difficult to remove from our starting eleven.But I think maybe the next season (or even this season) Filipe Luis has to go playing in our starting eleven instead of Ivanovic with Azpilicueta as Right-Back and Filipe Luis as Left-Back.Ivanovic is a player of much physical deployment and for me he is indisputable but maybe for the next season Iva can again be Centre-Back and make way for Filipe Luis.If Ivanovic is physical strength, Filipe Luis is technical quality. Right now we took two years with Jose and our players have internalized well the methods of Jose. For example, right now Hazard is a very committed player in defensively aspects. Before the arraived of Jose, Hazard was an anarchic player, but now he is more committed to the defensive aspects.So maybe next season we can bet for technical players because we function as a perfect machine in collective aspects becouse we have already internalized Jose´s methods.So many of us think that we have to sign players like With Koke or Varane, a type of technical players who also know how to work for the team.With a team that is known for two years we can start thinking about making changes to bet on more technical player than physically strong players because we already have well developed our capacity for collective work by the team.Varane - Filipe Luis - Koke - Messi (hopefully, Please Roman) in return for Cahill - Ivanovic - Ramires - Willian.Our team has now a lot of maturity to make a change for next season to bet on more technical approaches. At the beginning of the season we have shown that we know play a total football with great defensive intelligence and perfect approaches in ofensive aspects. We are ready to take the next step in our BIG project.Regards to ALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFC888 219 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Even if he doesn't play another game for the rest of the season I still don't think he will leave. Seriously think he loves it at Chelsea and in London.Sure, maybe after another year of being underplayed he might go, but he'll be sticking around for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Even if he doesn't play another game for the rest of the season I still don't think he will leave. Seriously think he loves it at Chelsea and in London.Sure, maybe after another year of being underplayed he might go, but he'll be sticking around for a while yet.Yeah I'm sure Jose will convince him that he is going to be an "important part of the team" next year. Then be shipped in January. Don't think he is the kind of person to stay just because he likes London culinary, rain, Big Ben or whatever. MrExcalibur100, zolayes and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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